Reader Mail: Parking Permits
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January
1/16/2008:
Figured this would be a good place to discuss this year’s parking permit renewal. In case you’re wondering, that last-minute insert was discussed at the City Council meeting of 1/2/2008.
Below is the letter from Mayor Roberts and the rate increase insert.
See the official renewal form (why can’t we renew online?) and an original letter of complaint from a non-vehicle owning reader after the jump.


More after the jump.
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1/3/2008:
In today’s Hoboken411 reader mail segment, we have a resident who feels they’re being overcharged for daily parking permits, just because they do not own a vehicle and rent one occasionally. The letter was addressed to John Corea, copying Mayor Roberts, Council members Russo & Zimmer, 411 and the other town paper.
See my thoughts after the letter.
“Dear Mr. Corea:
I am writing to bring to your attention the fact that the Hoboken Parking Utility impermissibly charges residents without cars more for parking in Hoboken than residents with
cars.
Residents without cars are forced to purchase “guest” or visitor parking permits to park on Hoboken streets. These parking permits costs $3.00 each, or $3.00 per day. Residents with cars, on the other hand, are able to purchase “resident parking permits” for $15.00 per year. My husband and I, homeowners in Hoboken for several years, do not own a car. We believe there are too many cars on the streets in Hoboken, choose not to further pollute the environment, and rely on public transportation. However, we frequently rent cars from local car rental companies for errands and trips out of town. If we rent a car for one day each month, which is a twenty-four hour rental and requires us to park the car overnight on the street using a $3.00 guest parking permit, we spend $36.00 annually. Obviously, this is significantly more than the $15.00 “resident parking permit.”
As a Hoboken resident, I am entitled to the same parking charges as residents with cars. In other words, the cost for parking in Hoboken should be dependent on whether one is a resident – not whether one owns a car. A simple solution to this problem would be to allow residents without vehicles to purchase resident parking permits for the same price. Such parking permits would not need to be stuck or affixed to a car; rather they could be placed in a vehicle like a hang tag or simply placed on the car of a dashboard. The solution to this problem is not complicated. It only requires some “thinking outside of the box” by Hoboken officials.
Given the parking and traffic problems in this town as well as the environmental problems caused by vehicle emissions, Hoboken officials should do more to encourage its residents not to use and own vehicles. To be sure, the Parking Utility should not be charging residents without cars more than residents with cars to park on the street that all of our tax dollars go to maintain. Further, residents who do not own their own cars use much less street parking –unlike people who own cars and park them on the street daily.
If this problem is not promptly remedied, I will investigate the possibility of filing a lawsuit on behalf of residents without cars who are being overcharged for parking in our city.
I look forward to hearing from you with a solution to this discrepancy.
Very truly yours,
(name withheld)”
Regardless if I agree with this idea or not, here are the potential issues I foresee:
- The city would hate to reduce revenue for the HPU.
- Yep, they’d have to “think outside the box,” and create a new process. Instead of a license plate or VIN number, the permit-holders phone number would probably be the point of contact. The city currently uses State databases to determine owner contact information of vehicles if they need to. They’d have to create a new database if they wanted to contact the person responsible for these rental cars. Also, what about folks coming to visit these permit-holders.. can they use these hang-tags too?
- What about the residents that only use a temporary permit once or twice a year? Won’t they be outraged if they now have to pay more all-of-a-sudden? Or would the old process still remain in effect (I guess it’d have to for non-residents.)
- The reason temp-tags have a specific vehicle attached to it, is to prevent duplication and fraud. How would you manage these hang-tags? If I saw one in someone’s windshield, I can go home, create one in Photoshop, and use the same number. How will they know if it’s authorized? Ah, you’d still probably have to go down to city hall and sign some form advising what car is attached. The only way around this is to investigate whether our RFID company can make chip-enabled non-permanent tags that can’t be duplicated. How much would it cost?
- Lastly, a more immediate alternative would be to reduce the cost of these temp tags for residents to $1.00, and raise the cost for non-residents to $5 or even $10. This would require no major changes in the system.
Have a nice day!



















January 29th 2008 - 11:52:23 |
Did anyone else notice this?
On the application form (as shown above) it states the Application must be received by January 31, 2008. On the envelop that the application was sent to me in, there is a sticker affixed in the top middle that states,
“IMPORTANT NOTICE
RETURN FOR PROCESSING
BY
FEB. 29, 2008″
So what is the correct date?
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January 29th 2008 - 12:13:01 |
jcasteli wrote:
I’m going to guess the latter.
How nice of them to grant an extension as they sent the renewal notices out late
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April 2nd 2008 - 15:52:32 |
On the East side of Hudson Street, from the corner of 4th going south to the garage, there are 9 cars parked. Every car has a placard/permit on the dashboard. Some are blue, some are orange/pink. Does this mean all these people do not live in Hoboken?
Are these for business owners? Or visitors? Where do residents park?
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April 2nd 2008 - 17:02:58 |
chrisjur wrote:
i think they should start classifying most “real” SUVs and pickups as trucks…the crossovers don’t apply, they are on a car chassis, but most SUVs are certainly bigger than a sedan.
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April 2nd 2008 - 17:58:50 |
I saw an unfortunate situation the other day. A car had a Hoboken temp hang tag, but got a boot anyway, because they were parked on the green sign side of the street…. Nowhere on the scratch off hang tags, though, does it mention you can only park on the white sign sides. Looks like that’s one less visitor that’s ever coming back to Hoboken.
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April 2nd 2008 - 18:49:34 |
Green side is Residents Only.
Not Temporary residents.
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April 2nd 2008 - 19:23:52 |
Umm, those hang tags do say where to park. I have a bunch of them. On the back it says right on top “These permits can only be used to park on streets displaying WHITE SIGNS with green lettering”
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April 2nd 2008 - 21:58:00 |
whoops, you’re right… still, I felt bad seeing it since they did have a hang tag.
On my particular block, there is only 1 permit parking sign, whereas most streets have 4 or 5, and it’s at the corner, so you have to walk a block if you were to park on the opposite corner in order to find out what “color” that side of the street is.
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April 2nd 2008 - 22:49:38 |
homeworld wrote:
how about the first night i brought my car to hoboken 3 years ago, a week or two after i’d moved here, i got my green sheet of thick paper as my temporary parking pass to hold me over before i had proof of residence for my decal. i was told about the different sides of the streets and understood. but when looking for my first hoboken parking spot, i noticed the spot directly below my apartment was free, forgot it was on the residential side, and parked. went out to black bear, came back at 3 in the morning to a boot and a ticket. welcome to hoboken
i didn’t even know what it was.
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April 3rd 2008 - 10:43:03 |
homeworld wrote:
i know a lot of people that have made this mistake because of the signs being only at each corner. what out of towners look at a sign that’s nowhere near where they park? everytime i have guests, i have to tell them, and they all say “i didn’t see a sign, are you sure?”
it’s a shame. it’s why i think the first time should be a ticket ONLY and boots in the future. i understand the point of the boot, kind of….it’s a larger deterrent. but it should be reserved for a repeat offender, not the first time.
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April 3rd 2008 - 11:30:41 |
lily731 wrote:
my first and only boot experience (which i later found out if i took the time to argue, i probably would have gotten my money back) was uptown, near shoprite. i used to live on 10th and clinton. 11th street didn’t have the green signs on the street, they had the white signs on both sides. not sure why, but this lasted through early 2005. then, i went on vacation…drove to JFK…my return flight landed at midnight….got back to Hoboken at around 2am, very tired. i drove down 11th street, and like always (back then) plenty of parking on both sides. i pulled over on the right side (uptown side) and parked.
next morning at 8:05 i went to my car to drive somewhere, and i see the boot. i couldn’t figure out why i got the boot, until i looked up, and saw the brand new glistening green signs….boy was i pissed. but, i parked about 10 feet from the sign…so it was my stupidity. but i heard someone else who had a similar situation and they dismissed the ticket and boot fee because the signs had recently been changed. wish i thought of that. i was just too angry and felt too stupid for parking right near the sign that clearly stated i couldn’t.
dirty trick they did switching those signs! probably necessary for more residential parking, especially how that part of town is now….but i wish they issued warnings for a couple weeks.
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April 3rd 2008 - 13:32:55 |
Well at least we always still have Maxwell Lane to park.
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December 17th 2008 - 00:15:38 |
Does anyone know if old, unused red temporary hang tags can be exchanged at City Hall for new ones? I have three left that don’t go past 08.
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December 17th 2008 - 00:33:10 |
When are the renewal forms sent out? And, I heard that they are raising the fees from $15.00 for a first car to $30.00 and from $30.00 for a second car to $50.00, is this true?
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February 23rd 2009 - 09:34:27 |
Anyone know what the deal is regarding parking permit renewal fees for 2009? I thought they raised the rates, sent out the renewal forms, and then the increases were rolled back by the city council – did I dream this? I just called the Parking Utility and they said they’re $25 for the first, $50 for the second, as printed on the renewal forms. (And the rates on the city website haven’t been updated in a year – nice.)
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February 23rd 2009 - 09:37:30 |
beamrider9 wrote:
Supposedly the council wound up rejecting the roll back, so it is $25.
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March 6th 2009 - 12:12:48 |
i didn’t get my parking renewal – just realized. so here’s my question. If they now raised the fee to 25/ 50…. whats the deal then if your roomate already renewed? Then I’m screwed and stuck with the $50?
I’ll probably be moving soon so how does the parking authority handle moves? If I wait to renew when i move and there is a parking sticker associated with the apt you move into, am i once again stuck with $50??
ugh
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