Willow Avenue redesign

Will Willow Avenue redesign benefit Hoboken?

Willow Avenue Redesign in Hoboken NJ necessary or overkillIn the works is a “complete streets” project uptown. With the proposed Willow Avenue redesign, Hudson County (in cooperation with the city), wants to re-pave Willow Ave (good – it’s falling apart), along with reducing the automobile travel lanes to accommodate bicyclists and “protect” pedestrians (unnecessary if people were aware of their surroundings).

What are “complete streets” you ask?

“Instituting a Complete Streets policy ensures that transportation planners and engineers consistently design and operate the entire roadway with all users in mind – including bicyclists, public transportation vehicles and riders, and pedestrians of all ages and abilities.”

Traffic near this area already backs up fairly significantly during peak times – and that includes two lanes of travel.

Hoboken’s population has estimated to have grown close to 4% since the 2010 Census, and will only keep increasing as new properties are sprouting up like daisies.

Do you think constricting the flow of vehicular traffic will benefit the city? Or simply create more log-jams, frustrating traffic conditions and other headaches that might just keep visitors away? Will the Hoboken parents who already double park here now be upset about the bike lanes? Or will they continue believing they’re exempt?

How accommodating should “streets” be anyway? How can you possibly make every roadway for everyone? Do you see bike lanes on highways? At what point should the line be drawn and stop catering to every demographic? Do bicyclists and self-centered pedestrians just add to the problem? Maybe Darwin should solve the problems?

Willow Ave Redesign in Hoboken NJ proposed

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17 Comments on "Willow Avenue redesign"


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hoboken martello
2 years 7 months ago

I simply don’t understand this nonsense. The street is wide enough for 2 travel lanes in each direction why in the world would 1 be eliminated for this stretch only to return to 2 lanes once you pass the viaduct. Should this come to pass nj transit may as well cancel the Clinton st arm of the 126 bus because it will never make it out of hoboken in the morning

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2 years 7 months ago

Maybe we can just start riding our bikes through the Lincoln Tunnel to work!! They just make it harder and harder for people living in our end of town to get into the city. This is absolutely a ludicrious idea!!!! It’s not as though all the bike lanes in town have kept people from riding on the sidewalks, including our wonderful mayor. [quote comment=”221023″]I simply don’t understand this nonsense. The street is wide enough for 2 travel lanes in each direction why in the world would 1 be eliminated for this stretch only to return to 2 lanes once you… Read more »

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vpm
2 years 7 months ago

Anyone who commutes everyday to manhattan by car is probably insane[quote comment=”221040″]Maybe we can just start riding our bikes through the Lincoln Tunnel to work!! They just make it harder and harder for people living in our end of town to get into the city. This is absolutely a ludicrious idea!!!!It’s not as though all the bike lanes in town have kept people from riding on the sidewalks, including our wonderful mayor.[/quote]

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2 years 7 months ago

I don’t drive, I take the Willow/Clinton bus. I live in Hoboken because of it’s proximity to NYC and it’s easy (most of the time) to commute. I am not sure I understand what your point is? I am stupid for not working in Hoboken? I don’t think that working at a cafe or restaurant in Hoboken is going to pay my mortgage. I want whatever it is your smoking, you live in a little dreamworld. Venice? Amsterdam? I can see Venice, considering the flooding situation every time it sprinkles…probably be easier to commute by boat. [quote comment=”221041″]Anyone who commutes… Read more »

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hoboken martello
2 years 7 months ago

Also, am i reading the diagram correctly back-in angled parking? Is that a joke? So there is 1 travel lane then a bike lane and then a moron who can barely drive attempting to back into an angled parking spot with a line of traffic laying on their horns as they flounder. Great idea!!

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jonsie
2 years 7 months ago

Within the first 30 days of completion, a pedestrian, biker and stroller kid all have that strange aftertaste of car and pavement in their mouths.

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vpm
2 years 7 months ago

So your options are; 1) Repave Willow Ave. as is 2) Try a “complete streets” approach. although it can be excuted much better than the above diagram, This tries to increase capacity of a street by making alternative modes of transportation, biking, walking etc. more attractive, thereby reducing the amount of automobiles on the road. Which only works if people actually stop driving and start biking. 3) Remove on street parking and add an additional lane of traffic to increase automobile capacity. 4) Or just for shits and giggles you could remove all the cars from the street and make… Read more »

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Frankie
2 years 7 months ago

Painting the road a different way for 2 blocks will not reduce the amount of cars on the road. What kool aid have you been drinking? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Making it appear more attractive for alternative modes of transportation is just for show. Hoboken will never be like venice or amsterdam. Not today. Not tomorrow. Never.[quote comment=”221026″]So your options are;1) Repave Willow Ave. as is2) Try a “complete streets” approach. although it can be excuted much better than the above diagram, This tries to increase capacity of a street by making alternative modes of transportation, biking,… Read more »

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vpm
2 years 7 months ago

So should we give up and not try to make it a better place?[quote comment=”221027″]Painting the road a different way for 2 blocks will not reduce the amount of cars on the road. What kool aid have you been drinking? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Making it appear more attractive for alternative modes of transportation is just for show. Hoboken will never be like venice or amsterdam. Not today. Not tomorrow. Never.[/quote]

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vpm
2 years 7 months ago

And also I agree with you that this is a shoddy way to do a “complete street.” If you want make a bike lane curb cut up to it and put a row of trees in between me and the cars, don’t put me between parked cars and traffic, I might as well just be driving in the street without the paint. Make a real effort to protect bikers and then maybe you will get more ridership. But its like a baby step in the right direction, maybe a half baby step, who knows maybe in 50 years Hoboken will… Read more »

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HOB424
2 years 7 months ago

The crosswalk at 11th and Willow definitely needs to go straight across and not diagonally.

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