Willow Avenue redesign

Will Willow Avenue redesign benefit Hoboken?

Willow Avenue Redesign in Hoboken NJ necessary or overkillIn the works is a “complete streets” project uptown. With the proposed Willow Avenue redesign, Hudson County (in cooperation with the city), wants to re-pave Willow Ave (good – it’s falling apart), along with reducing the automobile travel lanes to accommodate bicyclists and “protect” pedestrians (unnecessary if people were aware of their surroundings).

What are “complete streets” you ask?

“Instituting a Complete Streets policy ensures that transportation planners and engineers consistently design and operate the entire roadway with all users in mind – including bicyclists, public transportation vehicles and riders, and pedestrians of all ages and abilities.”

Traffic near this area already backs up fairly significantly during peak times – and that includes two lanes of travel.

Hoboken’s population has estimated to have grown close to 4% since the 2010 Census, and will only keep increasing as new properties are sprouting up like daisies.

Do you think constricting the flow of vehicular traffic will benefit the city? Or simply create more log-jams, frustrating traffic conditions and other headaches that might just keep visitors away? Will the Hoboken parents who already double park here now be upset about the bike lanes? Or will they continue believing they’re exempt?

How accommodating should “streets” be anyway? How can you possibly make every roadway for everyone? Do you see bike lanes on highways? At what point should the line be drawn and stop catering to every demographic? Do bicyclists and self-centered pedestrians just add to the problem? Maybe Darwin should solve the problems?

Willow Ave Redesign in Hoboken NJ proposed

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BklynHobo
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3 years 3 months ago
kooky kat
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3 years 3 months ago

Thanks for that little history lesson! 🙂

I do ride my bike around town and I love doing it! However, it doesn’t negate the fact that I need to get into the city 5 days a week to my job.

vpm
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vpm
3 years 3 months ago
I’m glad you asked, no I’m not saying you are stupid. I used extreme examples. Venice is the largest pedestrian only city in the world, no cars or bikes. So when you go there and walk around you can get a feeling for what an urban experience feels like when the city is designed to the human scale. Amsterdam or any Dutch city, also Bremen, Germany, and Münster, Germany are good examples of how a city works when its designed around a person on a bicycle. So when you visit you can experience what that feels like. Then you can go to Las Vegas and see what a city that is ideal for cars is like. Wide boulevards which have bridges at each intersection for pedestrians so they don’t get in your way. Big signs, bright lights. The Las Vegas strip is a wonderful place to drive. So when you look at all of these extreme urban models what fits Hoboken the best? Personally the biking model fits quite well. The city is small, and flat, if you are anywhere in Hoboken you can reach anything in 10 min or less by bike. All inter-Hoboken transportation should be done on a bicycle. If that happened Hoboken’s traffic and parking problems would be solved. Just think about how many bicycles you can put in a parking spot. At the moment the world is rapidly urbanizing and the population is growing. Hoboken’s population is only going to continue to grow, but the… Read more »
YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
3 years 3 months ago
Vince–Thanks for sharing your perspective–keep at it! Amsterdam is built for cars and trams just as importantly as it accommodates bikes, I would say. e.g., when crossing the street as a pedestrian in the city center, you have to look about 6 ways to avoid all of the different types of traffic that share the road–which is pretty impressive/intimidating. Hoboken is not in the transportation (or any other) league of cities that you mentioned. Hoboken is a fairly unique walking-scale city, in that it is very small/dense, relatively affluent, young/active and mainly a bedroom/commuter community. The majority of residents have to get out of town for work and recreation, and until a footbridge is built over the Hudson to NYC, a bicycle offers very limited incremental utility in our area, over a pair of shoes. It would be interesting if one or more of our streets were modified–as you envision–so that instead of parked cars you have protected, people-scale travel lanes, but have you considered the impacts? I disagree that bikes should have priority–bikes are mechanical overkill for most local travel requirements. And most people aren’t driving to pick up coffee and a bagel or to run local errands, because there is insufficient street parking (so that local driving problem sort of solves itself). Then, what are the problems we are trying to solve? Why do people have cars in Hoboken? Where is inter-Hoboken traffic heading to/from? What is the best way for Hoboken to provide parking to residents and… Read more »
vpm
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vpm
3 years 3 months ago

This is how you do a bike lane, none of this amatuer stuff.

spacing.ca/toronto/2012/08/09/urban-planet-dutch-intersection-design/

vpm
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vpm
3 years 3 months ago
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