Booze for Liberals

Drinking Liberally opens chapter in Hoboken, NJ

I personally think alcohol and politics don’t mix well, but one liberal drinking group disagrees. Drinking Liberally announced that they’ve opened up a chapter here in Hoboken – and you can find out more during the Presidential Debate next Wednesday, October 3rd at 7pm at the Hoboken Bar & Grill (230 Washington St.)

They have over 230 indoctrination zones chapters across the country. Here’s what they’re all about:

“An informal, inclusive progressive social group. Raise your spirits while you raise your glass, and share ideas while you share a pitcher. Drinking Liberally gives like-minded, left-leaning individuals a place to talk politics. You don’t need to be a policy expert and this isn’t a book club – just come and learn from peers, trade jokes, vent frustration and hang out in an environment where it’s not taboo to talk politics.”

What does “Liberal” mean to you these days?

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LimaEchoEcho
2 years 10 months ago

Here are some of the watch parties in the area for tonight’s debate. While the debate begins at 9:00 p.m., the festivities start much earlier.

Mayor Healy’s Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., Brightside Tavern, 141 Bright St., Jersey City

Fulop’s Jersey City Westside Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., the Park Tavern, 575 West Side Ave., Jersey City

Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer’s Watch Party: 8 p.m., Marty O’Brien’s, 94 Bloomfield St., Hoboken

Jersey City Education Association GOTV: 6:30 p.m., JCEA Headquarters, 1600 Kennedy Blvd., Jersey City

Drinking Liberally Watch Party: 7 p.m., Hoboken Bar & Grill, 230 Washington St., Hoboken

Bayonne for Obama Watch Party: 8 p.m., 23 Maritime Way, Bayonne

Obama Watch Party: 8 p.m., Nostalgia Cafe, 409 Martin Luther King Drive, Jersey City

St. Peter’s University Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., MacIntyre Lounge, Kennedy Boulevard and Montgomery Street

Hudson County Republican Club Watch party: 8:30 p.m., Golden Cicada Tavern, 195 Grand St., Jersey City.

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LimaEchoEcho
2 years 10 months ago

Anyone else know of any other places in town to watch the debate? Only places I heard of so far are Marty O’s on 1st and this place… Zimmer is supposedly going to be at Martys (rumor has it).

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2 years 10 months ago

You know what, I’m just gonna go ahead and write it…

3-Card-Monty

folded card #1:

What is Liberalism? It’s not what you think. Liberalism is founded upon both liberty and equality (liberalism = liberation). So how do you contradict that? You engineer egalitarianism as the equality of outcome, meaning you artificially execute governance by eradicating individual liberty (self ownership), and the state decides how much of your earned merit you get to keep. This is card #1.

folded card #2:

Liberalism liberated the slaves, who were previously defined as a property, meaning they had no individual sovereignty (self ownership). No longer were they told what to do and how to live by their governing masters. Now, as individuals, they had the liberty to make their life. How do you change that? You convince them that they should depend on the state to tell them how to live, what to think, who to vote for to ensure the state control their lives. In essence, you replace the ugly term slavery with the more accepted brand dependency. That’s card #2.

folded card #3:

Liberalism means the freedom from collectivism. So how do you convince otherwise? Most effective is to cause the destruction of a free system and blame the problems on the free system, then convince the people that in times of desperation, we must unite collectively to solve the problems that individualism creates. But are there only 3 cards?

what’s up the sleeve:

You destroy the sovereignty of nations by engineering catastrophe, offering the solution of a collective Final Solution, then you install no hope, and no chance of change from the audacity of planetary control.

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Liberalism is the liberation on the free person against control by the state. Yet, Liberals® claim the solution is state control. Liberals® claim collectivism is the solution to the problem created by individualism. You do not have a choice, nor sovereign right to refuse the recruitment. There’s no “I” in TEAMSTER.

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,”

–– unanimous D.o.I. of the 13 states

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2 years 10 months ago

responding with my opinion

xxrjxx (#15) said:

“2) I’ve given up trying to rationalize and reason with the irrational.

Try having an argument based on logic rather than emotion and you quickly find that you have little common ground on which a discussion can be held. And therein lies a fundamental problem with politics today–people don’t focus on the fundamental principles and the acts/actions which should follow. Rather, they focus on the promise of actions, which inevitably are left in the dust of the election wastebin.”

my response:

Not how I read it. Seems as though you’ve not given up by that very post, more passive and indirect maybe. The crux might be assuming there is a common ground. You will most likely never see the state title Co-Dictator in any governing model. You will never see an autocratic usurpation adhere to the restrictive enumerated powers U.S. Constitution. So you will never experience a left-leaning discussion which accepts individual sovereignty. However, you sound on point with principles (sovereignty) vs promises (slavery).

curious (#16) said:

“Thank you for enlightening me about what I am going to discuss with other people at an event that is occuring in the future. Yes, of course it is taxation that I will be ‘venting frustration’ about.
You and I obviously see the world through a very different lenses, but that is ok, because it what makes the world go around.
I do have a fairly obvious suggestion though, that being if you are not interested in this event, you don’t have to attend.”

my response:

Well, thank you for the presumptive disinvitation. It’s ironic that the event promotes an open invitation to a closed collective. Read the open invitation;

“An informal, inclusive progressive social group”
(inclusive yet exclusive)

“like-minded, left-leaning individuals”
(ah, the individuality of like-mindedness)

“an environment where it’s not taboo to talk politics.”
(Got Guilt?)

But that’s not the point. Seriously though, I challenge any of you to discuss individually policy, whatever, without violating the individual sovereignty of others. See how far you get.

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HansBrix
2 years 10 months ago

Yup. For those who won’t change their mind and won’t change the subject nothing beats an echo chamber.