Letter: Jackson Street BLOWS

Will Jackson Street ever be done right?

4th Ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti sent out this letter to residents regarding the Jackson Street mess, and encourages everyone to watch or attend the Hoboken City Council meeting Wednesday at 7pm.

“Friends and Neighbors,

As many of you know, I have made a strong push on Council to continuously address quality of life issues in the 4th Ward throughout my term of serving you, and traffic congestion has been at the forefront. We may not be able to solve every issue, but it’s very important to shine light on the problem and work with all of the community to make things better.

The 4th Ward is the gateway to Hoboken, and the changing of the road configuration on Jackson Street between Newark & Paterson Avenues has been a cause for concern. I am sponsoring two ordinances at the next council meeting addressing this very important issue, and I hope you will attend to voice your opinion. I am also very open to hearing your suggestions at any time.

To recap, on street parking was added to both the east and west sides of Jackson Street in addition to a bike lane on the west side of the street reducing two lanes of traffic into one. The bike lane runs in the middle of the road, splitting two lanes of traffic. Both Newark & Paterson Avenues are county roads, but for some reason, the Hudson County Department of Roads & Public Property, nor the Hoboken Police Department, were consulted regarding these changes.

I would have suggested following the recommendations of The Jersey City/Hoboken Subregional Transportation Study from over a year ago which suggested a new traffic signal at this location. This could have assisted in making a bad traffic situation much safer.

The new road configuration has led to a significant increase in traffic congestion as commuters return to Hoboken during evening rush hour. Traffic is now backing up into Jersey City as vehicles have difficulty making the left turn onto Jackson Street from Newark Avenue. This affects residents in the 4th Ward and many other commuters throughout the city, as Jackson Street is a main point of ingress for the city. Also, Jackson St. is a designated truck route in the city and that portion is in an industrialized zone.

At the next council meeting, Wednesday September 5th at 7 pm there will be a public hearing prior to a second reading and final vote for an ordinance to return Jackson Street back to its original configuration.

I sponsored this ordinance as a temporary fix until Hudson County completes its scheduled installation of a new traffic signal on Newark Avenue at Jackson Street in the spring of 2013.

Some neighborhood residents favor keeping this new configuration permanently in the hopes of slowing traffic in the area and creating safer pedestrian crossing conditions. I fully support pedestrian safety, especially when there is a private day care center a few blocks away.

I have also put forth an ordinance for 1st reading adding a new stop sign at Jackson Street and Observer Highway. This signal costs approximately $200K and is the responsibility of the city. In following the recommendations of the Jersey City/Hoboken Subregional Transportation Study, this signal should have been budgeted this year.

I recommend we move forward with a cost effective traffic-calming device, a stop sign, at this location to increase pedestrian safety. Common sense dictates supporting the stop sign at Observer Highway if the council votes to change Jackson Street back to its original configuration, even temporarily. Otherwise traffic will become more congested, making a bad situation worse.

I believe that once the county installs the new traffic signal next spring that we will have an opportunity to evaluate returning the on street parking and bike lane on Jackson St.

Whether we agree or disagree, please consider taking the time to attend tomorrow night’s meeting and speak to the council on this issue. I would like to see the Council hear pros and cons from residents with differing opinions so we can make an informed decision. Too often, personality gets in the way on Council, and emotions run out of control. I live two blocks from this area. I would much rather this be done correctly, than worry about who gets credit. Hopefully my fellow council members agree.

Best,
Tim Occhipinti
4th Ward Councilman
timothy.occhipinti@gmail.com

Zimmer & Sacs – what do you think about the mess you made?

8/29/2012:

Below is a letter and some photos from Hoboken411 reader Brian – who is fed up beyond belief about the mess the Jackson Street traffic change that accommodated just a few leftist bicycle riders.

To Mayor Zimmer, the City Council, and Mr. Sacs:

I would like to express my gratitude for the changes that you have implemented on Jackson Street, between Newark and First, over the course of this summer.

Over the last year, I have put up with a lot, from floors to fires, hurricanes to early morning construction, but the ignorance and neglect that you have shown to the well being and commute of tax payers, residents, and those who otherwise experience this corner of Hoboken has re-affirmed my belief that come the first opportunity, I will do my best to get ANYONE else in office.

Since painting Jackson Street, making what functioned as 3 lanes (whether it was intended to be or not) into 1 driving lane, 2 parking lanes, and a zig zagging bike lane wide enough to fit a Hummer, my commute takes about 20 minutes longer than it previously did. Today, it took OVER AN HOUR for me to go from the Turnpike exit to Jackson Street. Not only did this more than double my commute, but it caused me to miss an A/C repair appointment, meaning I will be without cool air for all of Labor Day Weekend.

Now, before you respond (or don’t) with some of the things I’ve already educated myself on, let me just say that if you think residents should be patient until a light comes in the Spring, you are probably to far off-base to have read this far. If you think voters are blind to that neglect, you need a reality check. More over, if you think people will buy slowly opening Madison Street as a solution (let’s not talk about how it’s taken more than a week to remove 2 metal crowd barriers), I wonder if you’ve ever driven this commute. I’ve read all about that and that will not help anyone coming from the turnpike in the short or long term. To the points Mr. Sacs has made publicly, these changes only slow down traffic on Jackson because your research radar gun was sitting in a parking lane next to where traffic is now at a stand still on a daily basis, and how you can say putting large, solid, inanimate objects (Cars/Trucks/More often delivery vans) on a street corner with parking spots benefits pedestrian visibility is just silly. Again, I really hope you don’t think voters are blind to this.

Finally, because I sincerely believe many of you voted off of paper and not experience (or some simply lied to residents when they did experience according to online comments), I have included some pictures from the hour I spent wasting gas and polluting the environment this evening. In no particular order, they show:

  • The line of traffic where I sat in the same spot for 7 light cycles on Grove Street between 17th and 18th in JC because Newark was backed up to the Turnpike
  • Me then sitting on Marin BLVD after I turned around off of Grove, and the ensuing line of traffic.
  • The “2nd lane” that people then created on Marin, tired of sitting in traffic for an hour
  • THe line of traffic heading south on Newark, past the firestation (So opening Madison will help…. what?)
  • Missing 5th picture, because I did put my phone down the few times I was actually moving, of the 2 motorcycles that used your “Bike Lane” to “safely” navigate their way through the “much slower, safer” corridor of Jackson Street. Don’t worry though, they zig zagged with the lane when it cut in between the turn and straight lane (then turned left onto Patterson).

Personally, I can think of a plethora of better ways to make this corridor safer, and I don’t need any experience or data to tell me that. Hopefully you all will spend some time, no matter what your data or beliefs tell you, and take the drive thousands of us do over the coming week and realize the err in your ways, and at the very least repeal the lane changes until the light is installed. I CAN’T WAIT until next week, when thousands more are doing this commute every day instead of spending time at their shore houses.

Thanks for that nightmare.”

19 Responses

  1. spiffy says:

    Zimmerman and her cronies think they color within the lines, play by the rules and That they do no wrong. Most inhuman administration I’ve Ever seen.

  2. shoretoplease says:

    As a resident of Patterson Ave I completely agree that this change has created a far worse issue that we previously had.

  3. CL Smooth says:

    Nothing to say about this except complete and utter disaster. Last week of August, 7:30 at night and it was still a nightmare Wednesday. It’s caused me to pretty much scrap that route.

    Can’t wait to see next week around 5:30…has the city responded to any of this?

  4. cmboken says:

    What should the solution be? Before traffic was going too fast and people were afraid someone would get killed. Now it is too slow and the city screwed up. Doesn’t the county handle traffic patterns and not the city? Either way at rush hour this city has always had problems. It is a tough intersection, but the worst of it is the bike lane between two lanes of traffic. That is just dangerous and only a matter of time before an accident happens. Hopefully they will change it to something better that will help the flow. I stay out of that area at rush hour and have way before any changes were made.

  5. LC92 says:

    I could not have written this letter better myself! I have been commuting to and from Hoboken via Jackson/Monroe/Jersey Ave for 4 yrs. In that time the commute has slowly gotten worse, but understandably so due to things that cannot always be controlled (increase in population & traffic volume, construction)… But this sudden intentional and awful change has more than doubled the usual increase in traffic volume and has literally made it stand still. Like Brian, I have sat through multiple lights at various intersections watching gridlocked traffic tangle and untangle itself in time for my light to turn red again. Yesterday, I must have turned around/detoured my route 3 or 4 times within Hoboken trying to get home and it still took 35 minutes. I am all about bicycles and helping the environment but when was the last time anyone saw someone using those new bikes lanes? The only time I witnessed this was a mother trying to navigate with her child attached to some carriage that had a small red flag sticking 2 feet off of it during the evening rush hour. It was extremely unsafe. And in the meantime I can’t even walk down streets like Madison (with a bike lane) to get to Shoprite without almost being run over by cyclists, on the sidewalk! So we give them our streets and our sidewalks? Where does it end…. I have accepted the lack of parking and the incessant parking utility staff. But they can not expect everyone to just roll over and play dead for this. I cannot wait for the next election.

  6. jackson3 says:

    I wholeheartedly agree there are a lot of better temporary solutions to this issue, but I don’t think the city should get a pass on a) doing it in the first place or b) thinking people are dumb enough to buy Madison street opening at a snails pace as solutions. After the month it takes them to remove 2 barriers and the additional month before they allow lefts onto it, Newark will be more of a disaster.

    I can’t believe how idiotic it was to make these changes under the notion that a traffic light is coming which will “solve all the issues.” The @#$%ing traffic light isn’t coming until the Spring… talk about putting the cart WAYYYYYYY ahead of the horse.

    Some solutions I can think of, other than the obvious 1 of reverting to the old way:
    – Remove 1 of the parking lanes and have it be 2 separate lanes, with the plastic barriers like they have coming off of the turnpike, so both sides of Newark can turn without concern of the others coming across and hitting them
    – To appease pedestrians, install the large plastic “YIELD TO PEDESTRIAN” signs in between the lanes the at the intersection
    – Close Jackson to 18 wheelers. They’re just using this stretch of road to get to Jersey City anyway.
    – Stop letting delivery vans back into the warehouse on this corner, taking up a lane of traffic (even with teh parking lanes)
    – If the 7 spots created must stay, put hours on them… NOT DURING RUSH HOUR.
    – Worst case – have police at the interesections controlling the flow of traffic

    I really believe the city had to actively try to make this as miserable as possible. Now that they have, and see the issues it has created, they’re trying to throw lipstick on a pig with Madison.

    This is going to be an absolute disaster next week. The council doesn’t even meet until Wednesday, when they’ll likely ignore the issue or remain stubborn or ignorant to the problem they’ve created. Even if they do vote to revert to the old way of things, it will probably take them a month to take the parking lanes away. I’ve already started searching for alternate routes, but there is nothing that will help me… I live on 1st and Jackson.

  7. jackson3 says:

    The highlight of tonight’s commute (at 7pm) was Newark being backed up beyond the Port Authority police station, but the minivan on the side of the road, whose driver had to pull off to the side so her kid could pee on the side of a building since traffic was so bad and they presumably “couldn’t hold it any longer.” Good Job, Hoboken.

    Also, on Mr. Occhipinti’s facebook, he is promoting adding a stop sign to alleviate the issue, ON JACKSON STREET. He’s faught this change the most… but wow.

  8. cyclewag says:

    Jackson Street has always been a travel mess. A mixed zoned area mostly industrial that has trucks of all sizes and tons of bus passing through makes it very difficult to navigate by foot or two wheels. I give the city credit for trying to test out a new traffic pattern to try to slow down the onslaught of traffic through those 2 streets of Jackson to Paterson Plank Road.

    As one who now relies on my feet, public transportation and bicycles as my primary means of transportation I give the city credit for trying to ensure our safety and work towards the city’s vision of one that contains “Complete Streets” which enable all modes of transport to safely navigate our roadways. I sold my car back in Feb as Hoboken has become so over crowded (55,000 residents) it has become nearly impossible to get in and out during rush hour plus parking well that’s another rant.

    While there is no 100% solution that everyone will like, I respectfully thank the city administration for taking action (like it or not) to try to find a solution. Test one method, gain some metrics and qualitative feedback, make some adjustments and gain more metrics and qual feedback till we find a proper balance.

    Yes, traffic is a mess. It is so for many reasons. Among them is that for so many years traffic engineers have focused on moving cars when they should be focused on moving people.

    Now, at last, the city has a traffic engineer who understands the big picture and strives to make the streets safe and functional for all of us, those who go about our business on bicycles, on foot and in cars. For his troubles, he and the Mayor are being treated as though they were out to do you the motorist wrong. Furthest thing from the truth.

    Before tying Mr Sacs and Mrs Zimmer to the stake and stoning them you might have taken a look at http://www.completestreets.org. Do so now, and you will see that Mr Sacs is not the only one out there trying to fix the mess our car centric culture has us in.

    But, as you know, it is never too late for redemption. Would you be so kind as to join me at the corner of Jackson Street and Observer Highway at rush hour to look at these improvements from the eyes of a pedestrian? You may find Mr. Sacs to have his feet on the ground after all and trying to work with the mess he has.

    Reverting the roadway back is not the answer for all, to the motorists and 4th ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti yes. But not for everyone. It may take some tweaking to find the right mix of traffic moving strategies to help retain slower speeds, less cars playing frogger with each other and pedestrians. There are other streets to get into town too, Jersey Ave to Jackson is but one option. There is New York Ave and Paterson Plank to the viaduct, there is the northern entry points as well.

    As a former daily driver I feel your pain. Perhaps mass transit which Hoboken is best suited to might be a more viable and serene option. If not please offer the city constructive options as I am sure Mr Sacs’ office is open to hearing options. It would also be nice if the county would move swiftly with installing the proposed traffic light at Jackson and Newark. We are told not until Spring 2013. Not soon enough. How about go yell at the county administration as Observer is a county roadway. The city is tryiing to help while the county who you pay taxes too is kicking their feet and hiding behind budget spread sheets over your precious travel time and safety of others.

    • HomeTeam says:

      >>>city has a traffic engineer who understands the big picture <<<

      No, we don't.

      I'm guessing you are that old hippy biker guy who is always yelling at cars and handing out fliers on 1st Street? Let's put the quartz crystals, granola and heady vibes away for a few minutes and put the road back to normal until a qualified engineer can survey the area.[quote comment="216936"]Jackson Street has always been a travel mess. A mixed zoned area mostly industrial that has trucks of all sizes and tons of bus passing through makes it very difficult to navigate by foot or two wheels. I give the city credit for trying to test out a new traffic pattern to try to slow down the onslaught of traffic through those 2 streets of Jackson to Paterson Plank Road.As one who now relies on my feet, public transportation and bicycles as my primary means of transportation I give the city credit for trying to ensure our safety and work towards the city’s vision of one that contains “Complete Streets” which enable all modes of transport to safely navigate our roadways. I sold my car back in Feb as Hoboken has become so over crowded (55,000 residents) it has become nearly impossible to get in and out during rush hour plus parking well that’s another rant.While there is no 100% solution that everyone will like, I respectfully thank the city administration for taking action (like it or not) to try to find a solution. Test one method, gain some metrics and qualitative feedback, make some adjustments and gain more metrics and qual feedback till we find a proper balance.Yes, traffic is a mess. It is so for many reasons. Among them is that for so many years traffic engineers have focused on moving cars when they should be focused on moving people.Now, at last, the city has a traffic engineer who understands the big picture and strives to make the streets safe and functional for all of us, those who go about our business on bicycles, on foot and in cars. For his troubles, he and the Mayor are being treated as though they were out to do you the motorist wrong. Furthest thing from the truth.Before tying Mr Sacs and Mrs Zimmer to the stake and stoning them you might have taken a look at . Do so now, and you will see that Mr Sacs is not the only one out there trying to fix the mess our car centric culture has us in.But, as you know, it is never too late for redemption. Would you be so kind as to join me at the corner of Jackson Street and Observer Highway at rush hour to look at these improvements from the eyes of a pedestrian? You may find Mr. Sacs to have his feet on the ground after all and trying to work with the mess he has.Reverting the roadway back is not the answer for all, to the motorists and 4th ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti yes. But not for everyone. It may take some tweaking to find the right mix of traffic moving strategies to help retain slower speeds, less cars playing frogger with each other and pedestrians. There are other streets to get into town too, Jersey Ave to Jackson is but one option. There is New York Ave and Paterson Plank to the viaduct, there is the northern entry points as well.As a former daily driver I feel your pain. Perhaps mass transit which Hoboken is best suited to might be a more viable and serene option. If not please offer the city constructive options as I am sure Mr Sacs’ office is open to hearing options. It would also be nice if the county would move swiftly with installing the proposed traffic light at Jackson and Newark. We are told not until Spring 2013. Not soon enough. How about go yell at the county administration as Observer is a county roadway. The city is tryiing to help while the county who you pay taxes too is kicking their feet and hiding behind budget spread sheets over your precious travel time and safety of others.[/quote]

    • whineanddineinhob says:

      LMAO. Who wrote that bullshit speech for you, Juan Meli?[quote comment=”216936″]Jackson Street has always been a travel mess. A mixed zoned area mostly industrial that has trucks of all sizes and tons of bus passing through makes it very difficult to navigate by foot or two wheels. I give the city credit for trying to test out a new traffic pattern to try to slow down the onslaught of traffic through those 2 streets of Jackson to Paterson Plank Road.As one who now relies on my feet, public transportation and bicycles as my primary means of transportation I give the city credit for trying to ensure our safety and work towards the city’s vision of one that contains “Complete Streets” which enable all modes of transport to safely navigate our roadways. I sold my car back in Feb as Hoboken has become so over crowded (55,000 residents) it has become nearly impossible to get in and out during rush hour plus parking well that’s another rant.While there is no 100% solution that everyone will like, I respectfully thank the city administration for taking action (like it or not) to try to find a solution. Test one method, gain some metrics and qualitative feedback, make some adjustments and gain more metrics and qual feedback till we find a proper balance.Yes, traffic is a mess. It is so for many reasons. Among them is that for so many years traffic engineers have focused on moving cars when they should be focused on moving people.Now, at last, the city has a traffic engineer who understands the big picture and strives to make the streets safe and functional for all of us, those who go about our business on bicycles, on foot and in cars. For his troubles, he and the Mayor are being treated as though they were out to do you the motorist wrong. Furthest thing from the truth.Before tying Mr Sacs and Mrs Zimmer to the stake and stoning them you might have taken a look at . Do so now, and you will see that Mr Sacs is not the only one out there trying to fix the mess our car centric culture has us in.But, as you know, it is never too late for redemption. Would you be so kind as to join me at the corner of Jackson Street and Observer Highway at rush hour to look at these improvements from the eyes of a pedestrian? You may find Mr. Sacs to have his feet on the ground after all and trying to work with the mess he has.Reverting the roadway back is not the answer for all, to the motorists and 4th ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti yes. But not for everyone. It may take some tweaking to find the right mix of traffic moving strategies to help retain slower speeds, less cars playing frogger with each other and pedestrians. There are other streets to get into town too, Jersey Ave to Jackson is but one option. There is New York Ave and Paterson Plank to the viaduct, there is the northern entry points as well.As a former daily driver I feel your pain. Perhaps mass transit which Hoboken is best suited to might be a more viable and serene option. If not please offer the city constructive options as I am sure Mr Sacs’ office is open to hearing options. It would also be nice if the county would move swiftly with installing the proposed traffic light at Jackson and Newark. We are told not until Spring 2013. Not soon enough. How about go yell at the county administration as Observer is a county roadway. The city is tryiing to help while the county who you pay taxes too is kicking their feet and hiding behind budget spread sheets over your precious travel time and safety of others.[/quote]

  9. homeworld says:

    If the city’s goal was to truly make things safer for pedestrians and bicyclists , than they wouldn’t allow commercial trucks to park on the streets and give them residential parking permits.

    Here’s a transportation plan the county had prepared that would address many of the issues Hoboken faces: hudsoncountynj.org/SharedFiles/Down...eid=11&mid=183&fileid=296

  10. Hoboken_Andrew says:

    Thanks for uploading the plan!!! I plan on reading, something Zimmer and Sacs didn’t do!!!

  11. HomeTeam says:

    If they really want to make the intersection safer, make the idiot from the florist stop feeding the dozens of pigeons on the corner multiple times a day. This part of the block is covered in pigeon shit and the birds line the wires, forcing people to walk outside of the crosswalk at the corner of Jackson and Newark/Patterson. When people walk outside the cross walk, they usually step into traffic to avoid the wires and the risk of being shit on. I don’t even go to J&D Provisions anymore because of the freakin’ pigeons on the corner. I miss their bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches.

  12. homeworld says:

    “I recommend we move forward with a cost effective traffic-calming device, a stop sign, at this location to increase pedestrian safety.”

    Stop signs are NOT traffic-calming devices. Where and when a stop sign is warranted is regulated by the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices. In accordance with N.J.S.A. 39:4-8b(1), a sign has to be approved by NJDOT to be enforceable, unless the street is fully under municipal jurisdiction.

    To get a stop sign approved the city needs to conduct an engineering study, which must include traffic counts and crash data, and optionally, speed data. Other criteria to be considered are the need for additional control for left turns or vehicle-pedestrian conflicts. Then NJDOT then has 90 days to review this information.

    And regardless of whether or not the street is under municipal jurisdiction, the City has to pass an ordinance or resolution first.

    This makes me wonder how many of the recent stop signs installed around Hoboken are legitimate. Were there any ordinance or resolutions passed for them, or approval from NJDOT, where necessary?

  13. Alpuj says:

    Going into the Councilman’s letter there are 2 paragraphs that I have a problem with…

    “I have also put forth an ordinance for 1st reading adding a new stop sign at Jackson Street and Observer Highway. This signal costs approximately $200K and is the responsibility of the city. In following the recommendations of the Jersey City/Hoboken Subregional Transportation Study, this signal should have been budgeted this year.”

    The ordinance is for a signal or for a stop sign? Because the first sentence is regarding a stop sign which is maybe $8K including labor to install and maybe a new stop bar. The second sentence out of nowhere he is randomly talking about how much a new signal costs. It seems like one of those reading comprehension quizzes we took in grade school where topics come out of nowhere.

    “I recommend we move forward with a cost effective traffic-calming device, a stop sign, at this location to increase pedestrian safety. Common sense dictates supporting the stop sign at Observer Highway if the council votes to change Jackson Street back to its original configuration, even temporarily. Otherwise traffic will become more congested, making a bad situation worse.”

    Typical politican…Stop Signs are NOT traffic calming devices. They are regulatory signs used when traffic dictates their use. They are not to be used to slow traffic. There are many accepted ways to slow traffic speeds and increase pedestrian safety such as speed humps and bumps, narrowing roadway geometry, increased warning signage, textured roadways, etc. But installing a stop sign is not an acceptable way to calm traffic. Similarly just reducing a speed limit isn’t a proper way to reduce speeds.

  14. jackson3 says:

    Wow. Someone sticking up for Ian Sacs. Never thought I’d see the day.

    Unfortunately, the person doing so is operating under the naivety that he and Zimmer attribute to all of Hoboken Residents.

    I exchanged a few emails with Mr. Sacs about this corner right after it happened and it started drastically affecting my commute. Not only do I live on this corner and my property has likely devalued itself because of the significant increase in noise at this intersection with honking, but I walk through it on the way to my parking spot every day, and drive through it getting in and out of town each day.

    To buy into the argument that this is safer for pedestrians is lunacy. There are parked cars on the street corners now. You think it is safer having them unable to see anyone at the street corner actually not acting like an entitled walker and waiting? You think they can react in time to see those who walk right into the intersection as an ignorant entitled pedestrian? I don’t… because I don’t have the ability to see through cars… so at least 4 times a day I am now more likely to be hit or hit someone.

    To complicate that, now drivers are pissed off for sitting in longer-than-usual traffic and driving pissed off, quicker through there when it does open up, adding to pedestrians danger.

    Close it off to 18 wheelers. Stop letting delivery trucks block lanes. Make it 2 lanes (with the bike lane on a curb), with the plastic dividers in between so people can’t hit each other. Install the light. These are the only things that MAY make it better than it was, before Sacs f’d it all up.

    Conveniently, this town hall is on the night of the Giants season opener and a big DNC speech… good luck getting a turn out, Tim!

  15. Skelly says:

    …seems like it’s all too late, folks! Hoboken dumped the big money into painting all the lane lines and bike lanes, got the lights all setup to let everyone LEAVE town. Don’t think it would be likely they would revert and set the street back to the way it was. IF they decided to setup a PM time setting on the traffic lights that are so kind to let us out of town, in order to let us back in, maybe it might work sightly smoother. Yes we’re all screwed every PM rush hour now, waiting to zipper in the merge onto Jackson street, and everyone else onto Observer Hwy, but like the bike lane lines painted BEFORE paving all the wonderful suspension-destroying streets, they’re here to stay, no more money to use, and to wait yet another 10 years to see if more ‘improvements’ will take place. Remember the kind police officers that made the morning commute out of town slightly more efficient? We need them now to let us back in, NOT a stop sign, how would that work at all?

    ..possibly some kind resident will post a “Honk if this traffic sucks!” poster on the Welcome to Hoboken signs, and bug others enough that more letters will pour into City Hall. Pigeon shit, indeed.

    • whineanddineinhob says:

      Wouldn’t worry too much about entering and leaving town because if Dawn Zimmer and Christie have their way with the NJ Transit project, you won’t be able to afford living here withing 10 years. You’ll be pushed out of town just like others before you. It’ll be a city for the wealthy, and you renters just don’t fit the bill if rent control is abolished. I’d be very careful and concerned on how I vote on future municipal elections. Think you’re worthless 401k’s, company profit sharing, and a most likely very adjusted Social Security, is going to keep you in this town? Not likely, if Zimmer and her croonies have anything to say about it.[quote comment=”216994″]…seems like it’s all too late, folks! Hoboken dumped the big money into painting all the lane lines and bike lanes, got the lights all setup to let everyone LEAVE town. Don’t think it would be likely they would revert and set the street back to the way it was. IF they decided to setup a PM time setting on the traffic lights that are so kind to let us out of town, in order to let us back in, maybe it might work sightly smoother. Yes we’re all screwed every PM rush hour now, waiting to zipper in the merge onto Jackson street, and everyone else onto Observer Hwy, but like the bike lane lines painted BEFORE paving all the wonderful suspension-destroying streets, they’re here to stay, no more money to use, and to wait yet another 10 years to see if more ‘improvements’ will take place. Remember the kind police officers that made the morning commute out of town slightly more efficient? We need them now to let us back in, NOT a stop sign, how would that work at all?..possibly some kind resident will post a “Honk if this traffic sucks!” poster on the Welcome to Hoboken signs, and bug others enough that more letters will pour into City Hall. Pigeon shit, indeed.[/quote]

  16. Civic66 says:

    Now they have a cop (I believe Hudson Country Sheriff) there during rush hour to direct traffic?!?! What a waste of tax payer dollars just to put a bike lane on one block of roaway that bikers don’t even use.

    This may be really drastic, but is there any realistic way to connect Coles St in Jersey City to Marshall St by going under the train tracks? That could possibly help alleviate the traffic coming into Hoboken from Jersey Ave.

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