Have strollers become too much?

Some Hoboken places become cramped with strollers

At what point do the massive stroller SUV’s become a general nuisance?

The other day – I was at Starbucks uptown, and this woman and her double-wide stroller was causing a helluva commotion trying to move within the tight confines of the shop. People had to move from where they were sitting, she was knocking things over and more. Not to mention she desperately needed the low-carb lifestyle herself.

But with these baby carriages becoming gargantuan enough to cause trouble for ordinary customers just minding their own business at a coffee shop – at what point should their presence be regulated in some way?

Frankly, I’d prefer that these people didn’t have the sense of entitlement to drag their stuff everywhere – and that common sense would allow them to voluntarily not cause a debacle wherever they went. But we know that’s not going to happen – and sadly, more “rules” will eventually be necessary.

Has the massive stroller movement reached a tipping point yet, or will it only get worse?

24 Responses

  1. debra says:

    Strollers and/or carriages, whichever you call them, should remain outside the store just as it was years ago. Put up stroller racks if they are so concerned of their stroller getting stolen. We never had this problem years ago worrying about our carriages being stolen. We would just leave them outside the store window and go inside to shop. Many of the new mothers today would never have survived having children before all these new inventions came about. I remember my aunt having a newborn in the coach carriage, a toddler in a coach seat and two smaller children in a harness strapped to either side of the handle of the carriage. She never had a problem gathering them all up and going inside a store WITHOUT A CARRIAGE. I understand mothers need to socialize, enjoy a cup of coffee and shop, but ladies please give people some consideration and don’t feel you are entitled to more because you are a mother.

    • animal_lover says:

      Come on ladies, get with the program and hire a body guard to watch those strollers so you can relax!

      And 411, fyi, the double strollers are oh so slimming to a wide trailer.[quote comment=”216131″]Strollers and/or carriages, whichever you call them, should remain outside the store just as it was years ago. Put up stroller racks if they are so concerned of their stroller getting stolen. We never had this problem years ago worrying about our carriages being stolen. We would just leave them outside the store window and go inside to shop. Many of the new mothers today would never have survived having children before all these new inventions came about. I remember my aunt having a newborn in the coach carriage, a toddler in a coach seat and two smaller children in a harness strapped to either side of the handle of the carriage. She never had a problem gathering them all up and going inside a store WITHOUT A CARRIAGE. I understand mothers need to socialize, enjoy a cup of coffee and shop, but ladies please give people some consideration and don’t feel you are entitled to more because you are a mother.[/quote]

      • billm2012 says:

        Given the issues affecting our town, such as parking, sink holes, taxes, etc. I find it to be completely comical that strollers and babies are on people’s list of major concerns.

        Get a freaking grip people. [quote comment=”216169″]Come on ladies, get with the program and hire a body guard to watch those strollers so you can relax!And 411, fyi, the double strollers are oh so slimming to a wide trailer.[/quote]

  2. Mrs.H says:

    I agree the moms, baby carriages, and the lack of respect for everyone else around them is a problem in this town.

    • gt07030 says:

      I have to say these double wide strollers are ridiculous and should not be allowed in any of the stores or shops…Ever try getting down an isle at Kings when the caravan comes your way and they look at you like you are a moron because you wont move…Go to the burbs already or at least be curtious[quote comment=”216142″]I agree the moms, baby carriages, and the lack of respect for everyone else around them is a problem in this town.[/quote]

  3. escaped68 says:

    I had no feeling either way about strollers that is until this morning. I went to watch my grand daughter at some sort of gymnastic thing . i pick a nice spot to watch and soon this stroller mom and her double wide stroller and double wide ass stand right sq. in front of me blocking my view. I said nicely you blocking my view, she look at me like i was nuts and stood there. So next I said ” do you fucken mind” boy did she move after that. So remember nice guys finish last.

    • Mitch Ultimato says:

      Sometimes you have to do that. I was at a concert in the city a few nights ago and these two women behind me were talking non-stop. Everyone else was quiet and listening to the music but these two kept at it even though my wife and I and other people around us kept shooting them nasty looks. FInally I turned around and said “Shut the fuck up already! No one paid to hear YOU!” They never said another word and left the show early, probably thinking I was going to kill them. [quote comment=”216156″]I had no feeling either way about strollers that is until this morning. I went to watch my grand daughter at some sort of gymnastic thing . i pick a nice spot to watch and soon this stroller mom and her double wide stroller and double wide ass stand right sq. in front of me blocking my view. I said nicely you blocking my view, she look at me like i was nuts and stood there. So next I said ” do you fucken mind” boy did she move after that. So remember nice guys finish last.[/quote]

  4. mooshu says:

    Given all the issues in town surrounding parking, sink holes, etc., we really don’t need more issues.

    But I will say that since tickets are usually issued for illegal parking (some idiots are above the law), then they should be issued to inconsiderate stroller pushers for blocking exits. It’s common sense.

    • billm2012 says:

      So a woman with a stroller is dramatically affecting your opportunity to grab a beer, a coffee, or shop for groceries? Seriously?

      How do you deal with bad weather, traffic, or flight delays. Cry?

      [quote comment=”216225″]Given all the issues in town surrounding parking, sink holes, etc., we really don’t need more issues.But I will say that since tickets are usually issued for illegal parking (some idiots are above the law), then they should be issued to inconsiderate stroller pushers for blocking exits. It’s common sense.[/quote]

      • mooshu says:

        No, *many* rude women who happen to push strollers with children in them annoy more people than you know in this town, and these women should be held accountable whenever they feel entitled enough to block entryways and exits. And, believe me, I don’t cry about this– I just do what I need to do to get by them.

        Perhaps it is you who is bothered by reality. Boy, is the crash down from the optimism cloud going to hurt your behnd…

        [quote comment=”216249″]So a woman with a stroller is dramatically affecting your opportunity to grab a beer, a coffee, or shop for groceries? Seriously?How do you deal with bad weather, traffic, or flight delays. Cry?[/quote]

      • mooshu says:

        And, way to go (!) comparing an entirely controllable and changeable behavior stemming from entitlement and arrogance with instances genuinely of our control.[quote comment=”216249″]So a woman with a stroller is dramatically affecting your opportunity to grab a beer, a coffee, or shop for groceries? Seriously?How do you deal with bad weather, traffic, or flight delays. Cry?[/quote]

      • billm2012 says:

        Stereotyping mothers in this town with strollers as “rude,” is like stating that every person in Hoboken who partakes in some social drinking, is a “drunk.” Drinking is just as controllable, yet people get away with murder on weekends.

        Agreed, there are rude people in life, both with and without strollers. Deal with it appropriately.

        On a separate note, your little comment about “crashing down from the optimist cloud?” Guy, I’m the furthest thing from an optimist, I’m a realist. Hence the reason I noted earlier on this thread REAL problems in this town. I’ve lived here over a decade, and have seen both sides of the coin. The families who have stayed are the same families that met as 20 somethings in this town. Unlike other generations who quickly bailed for the suburbs, we are the one’s who hung around to start families. You really think Starbucks was placed uptown to cater to the teen and post college crowd?? Wrong, they make their money on 30 somethings, including families.

        So yes, my family will personally do our best to remain polite and curtious of one’s space. But I still feel your broad generalization on the exit at Starbucks (let’s be honest that’s what you are talking about) is a bit over done.

        [quote comment=”216252″]And, way to go (!) comparing an entirely controllable and changeable behavior stemming from entitlement and arrogance with instances genuinely of our control.[/quote]

      • hobokenite0 says:

        Defending mothers in the first paragraph and in the third admitting that they’ll eventually “bail for the suburbs” kind of made me smile. This is in part what makes the tyranny of the strollers all the more irritating. It’s the self-entitlement, the lack of acknowleding other people exist and do in fact need to walk on the sidewalk, shop in the grocery store, etc. All to know, that in due time, they’ll move out to the suburbs and then the cycle will start all over again with another stroller-mom.

        Of course when we stereotype there is a bit a validity behind it, otherwise the stereotype wouldn’t exist. But I think it’s pretty much understood by all that stereotypes don’t apply to everyone. For example I live in New Jersey, and no, I do not fist-pump. See what I did there?

        But most importantly, (oh the irony) you do realize that the stroller-moms you’re defending are the same people whom the Starbucks’ caters to, don’t you? :roll: [quote comment=”216255″]Stereotyping mothers in this town with strollers as “rude,” is like stating that every person in Hoboken who partakes in some social drinking, is a “drunk.” Drinking is just as controllable, yet people get away with murder on weekends.Agreed, there are rude people in life, both with and without strollers. Deal with it appropriately.On a separate note, your little comment about “crashing down from the optimist cloud?” Guy, I’m the furthest thing from an optimist, I’m a realist. Hence the reason I noted earlier on this thread REAL problems in this town. I’ve lived here over a decade, and have seen both sides of the coin. The families who have stayed are the same families that met as 20 somethings in this town. Unlike other generations who quickly bailed for the suburbs, we are the one’s who hung around to start families. You really think Starbucks was placed uptown to cater to the teen and post college crowd?? Wrong, they make their money on 30 somethings, including families.So yes, my family will personally do our best to remain polite and curtious of one’s space. But I still feel your broad generalization on the exit at Starbucks (let’s be honest that’s what you are talking about) is a bit over done.[/quote]

      • billm2012 says:

        For the record, I defend stroller Mom’s because my wife is one, and damn good at it.

        If you read my post, I said PRIOR generations left for the suburbs, while now, families are choosing to stay. Hence the reason the entire north end of Hoboken is catering to families. Tuesday live concerts in the park for kids, waterfront jungle jims, ice cream shops, baby stores, etc. etc. You think the town has put this stuff in place for the post college 20 somethings? No.

        Additionally, the common theme of “entitlement” is getting old. News flash, the same rude and entitled mothers, were rude and entitled in different ways pre-children.

        My posts have nothing to do with them. Although I find it ironic that other posters on this thread have referenced mothers’ fat back sides as a critique. Not rude?

        I am a father of twins and of course in need of a large stroller. Getting around isn’t always easy, but we do our best. When we want a coffee, one of us goes into the store, while the other walks the kids outside, for the exact reasons people mention.

        So again, if you want to generalize, go right ahead. But as a father, if you think I’m not going to put my two cents in, you are sadly mistaken. Enjoy your starbucks coffee this weekend, and beware of those stroller Mom’s!!! They’ll creep up on ya like a sink hole folks! [quote comment=”216262″]Defending mothers in the first paragraph and in the third admitting that they’ll eventually “bail for the suburbs” kind of made me smile. This is in part what makes the tyranny of the strollers all the more irritating. It’s the self-entitlement, the lack of acknowleding other people exist and do in fact need to walk on the sidewalk, shop in the grocery store, etc. All to know, that in due time, they’ll move out to the suburbs and then the cycle will start all over again with another stroller-mom.Of course when we stereotype there is a bit a validity behind it, otherwise the stereotype wouldn’t exist. But I think it’s pretty much understood by all that stereotypes don’t apply to everyone. For example I live in New Jersey, and no, I do not fist-pump. See what I did there?But most importantly, (oh the irony) you do realize that the stroller-moms you’re defending are the same people whom the Starbucks’ caters to, don’t you? [/quote]

      • joey maxim says:

        2012 on the money…respect earned is respect given…as long as the nannys are pushing
        precious cargo aka your kids while on the cell phone paying no attention to what is going on around them…your not the only dad with kids..Hoboken is not dog walks and or bike carriage walks to patronize a certain few parents that have a long way to go in life..the
        town is a mile square..Many are rude and and lack respect for others…works both ways.[quote comment=”216263″]For the record, I defend stroller Mom’s because my wife is one, and damn good at it.If you read my post, I said PRIOR generations left for the suburbs, while now, families are choosing to stay. Hence the reason the entire north end of Hoboken is catering to families. Tuesday live concerts in the park for kids, waterfront jungle jims, ice cream shops, baby stores, etc. etc. You think the town has put this stuff in place for the post college 20 somethings? No.Additionally, the common theme of “entitlement” is getting old. News flash, the same rude and entitled mothers, were rude and entitled in different ways pre-children.My posts have nothing to do with them. Although I find it ironic that other posters on this thread have referenced mothers’ fat back sides as a critique. Not rude?I am a father of twins and of course in need of a large stroller. Getting around isn’t always easy, but we do our best. When we want a coffee, one of us goes into the store, while the other walks the kids outside, for the exact reasons people mention.So again, if you want to generalize, go right ahead. But as a father, if you think I’m not going to put my two cents in, you are sadly mistaken. Enjoy your starbucks coffee this weekend, and beware of those stroller Mom’s!!! They’ll creep up on ya like a sink hole folks![/quote]

      • billm2012 says:

        Unfortunately Joey, another ridiculous generalization by this post. My wife stays home with my kids, works damn hard to raise the family, while I work damn hard to support all of us. And to be honest, if she needs to get out of the house to grab a coffee, she will grab a coffee. She will be polite and curtious doing so. And quite frankly, if that’s not good enough for you, I don’t give two sh+ts.[quote comment=”216273″]2012 on the money…respect earned is respect given…as long as the nannys are pushingprecious cargo aka your kids while on the cell phone paying no attention to what is going on around them…your not the only dad with kids..Hoboken is not dog walks and or bike carriage walks to patronize a certain few parents that have a long way to go in life..thetown is a mile square..Many are rude and and lack respect for others…works both ways.[/quote]

      • mooshu says:

        Wow, had no idea that outdoor concerts, ice-cream shops, and baby stores were only enjoyed by Family.org.

        You guys keep acting all self-important and like you own the place. As far as I can see, more businesses are closing, and they won’t be the last ones. Which means that your little family paradise is suffering a slow, unpleasant makeover.

        But enjoy the remainder of your and others’ stay here, which I hope isn’t just a pretty code for “we can’t sell our place”. [quote comment=”216263″]For the record, I defend stroller Mom’s because my wife is one, and damn good at it.If you read my post, I said PRIOR generations left for the suburbs, while now, families are choosing to stay. Hence the reason the entire north end of Hoboken is catering to families. Tuesday live concerts in the park for kids, waterfront jungle jims, ice cream shops, baby stores, etc. etc. You think the town has put this stuff in place for the post college 20 somethings? No.Additionally, the common theme of “entitlement” is getting old. News flash, the same rude and entitled mothers, were rude and entitled in different ways pre-children.My posts have nothing to do with them. Although I find it ironic that other posters on this thread have referenced mothers’ fat back sides as a critique. Not rude?I am a father of twins and of course in need of a large stroller. Getting around isn’t always easy, but we do our best. When we want a coffee, one of us goes into the store, while the other walks the kids outside, for the exact reasons people mention.So again, if you want to generalize, go right ahead. But as a father, if you think I’m not going to put my two cents in, you are sadly mistaken. Enjoy your starbucks coffee this weekend, and beware of those stroller Mom’s!!! They’ll creep up on ya like a sink hole folks![/quote]

      • billm2012 says:

        No, we don’t act like we own the place. But when ignorant posts on a Hoboken based website chastices families that have lived here for many years, you better damn well believe I am going to stand up and say something.

        Separately, I don’t own in this town, I rent. But you damn well better believe families staying in this town and buying higher priced real estate has single handidly supported uptown real estate, commerce, and half the aforementioned establishments you noted. You think 20 somethings are buying 800K one bedrooms uptown? Really.

        So honestly, if someone is rude, deal with it. If not, like myself, I really don’t care that you have to wait any extra 3 seconds for your triple late with whipped cream.[quote comment=”216274″]Wow, had no idea that outdoor concerts, ice-cream shops, and baby stores were only enjoyed by Family.org.You guys keep acting all self-important and like you own the place. As far as I can see, more businesses are closing, and they won’t be the last ones. Which means that your little family paradise is suffering a slow, unpleasant makeover.But enjoy the remainder of your and others’ stay here, which I hope isn’t just a pretty code for “we can’t sell our place”.[/quote]

      • joey maxim says:

        mooshu…correct..let these dolts ask their parents what type of stroller carriage did their
        parents push them in..then they should ask grandma what they used to navigate their parents around with…did they plug in their laptops in at starbucks and sip on a flavored coffee spending 4 .00 a cup? mooshu its the sign of the times and so many with a well rounded educated dont have a clue olf what raising a family is about..give them their space,and allow them to enjoy what they think is wonderland. soon dot will order a lantern on the rear end of a wide load stroller..enjoy the cluttered sidewalks.beep beep.
        [quote comment=”216274″]Wow, had no idea that outdoor concerts, ice-cream shops, and baby stores were only enjoyed by Family.org.You guys keep acting all self-important and like you own the place. As far as I can see, more businesses are closing, and they won’t be the last ones. Which means that your little family paradise is suffering a slow, unpleasant makeover.But enjoy the remainder of your and others’ stay here, which I hope isn’t just a pretty code for “we can’t sell our place”.[/quote]

      • animal_lover says:

        Hobokenie0, you have indirectly hit the nail on the head. It is not the strollers per se, and I am sure your twins are spontaneous, but the soaring rate of multiple births due to IVF. IVF success without regard to health risks and societal consequences is one of the major concerns of Reproductive Medicine.[quote comment=”216263″]For the record, I defend stroller Mom’s because my wife is one, and damn good at it.If you read my post, I said PRIOR generations left for the suburbs, while now, families are choosing to stay. Hence the reason the entire north end of Hoboken is catering to families. Tuesday live concerts in the park for kids, waterfront jungle jims, ice cream shops, baby stores, etc. etc. You think the town has put this stuff in place for the post college 20 somethings? No.Additionally, the common theme of “entitlement” is getting old. News flash, the same rude and entitled mothers, were rude and entitled in different ways pre-children.My posts have nothing to do with them. Although I find it ironic that other posters on this thread have referenced mothers’ fat back sides as a critique. Not rude?I am a father of twins and of course in need of a large stroller. Getting around isn’t always easy, but we do our best. When we want a coffee, one of us goes into the store, while the other walks the kids outside, for the exact reasons people mention.So again, if you want to generalize, go right ahead. But as a father, if you think I’m not going to put my two cents in, you are sadly mistaken. Enjoy your starbucks coffee this weekend, and beware of those stroller Mom’s!!! They’ll creep up on ya like a sink hole folks![/quote]

      • animal_lover says:

        Yes you’re right we all have to get a grip, stroller Mom’s are comparable to an Act of God :).

        The issue should really be addressed by the folks in Emergency Management. If it gets bad enough Hoboken might be able to get FEMA funding to expand sidewalks, doorways etc for strollers. [quote comment=”216249″]So a woman with a stroller is dramatically affecting your opportunity to grab a beer, a coffee, or shop for groceries? Seriously?How do you deal with bad weather, traffic, or flight delays. Cry?[/quote]

  5. HansBrix says:

    Additionally, the common theme of “entitlement” is getting old. News flash, the same rude and entitled mothers, were rude and entitled in different ways pre-children.

    Yes, but an over-sized stroller is a force multiplier. Think of it this way: a teenage boy might be irresponsible. Give him a bottle of whiskey and car keys and you have a problem.

    In any event, this comment reminds me of…

  6. kooky kat says:

    I hate to jump on the “I hate stroller moms” bandwagon. But after being out and about today, I have to say I dislike about 90% of the stroller moms I came in contact with. Pushed up against a fence so they can pass, one almost ran over my puppy because she couldn’t wait 3 seconds to get around the two girls she was trying to pass, getting behind a stoop so their family of 10 could pass and keep walking “together”. WTF? I live in a building where there are a ton of kids – if all of Hoboken MOMS were like they are, it would be a much better place and people wouldn’t be constantly complaining about what a bunch of entitled bitches these women are.

    For the record, most men who are out with their spawn pushing the stroller aren’t like that, I guess if you shoot a kid out you are entitled in some way to act they way they do. I guess I chose the wrong “motherhood ” role (being a dog mom) I guess because I didn’t get knocked up I am not as good as them.

    And one more thing…get your stollers out of the bike lane, that’s now what it’s for!!!!

  7. kooky kat says:

    Also, they don’t even pretend they are going to move, they just aren’t going to move. You better.

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