Hoboken Intersection Parking: Part II

10/30/2010 Update:

Blast from the past revisited: Intersection Parking

Bumping this post I wrote on Hoboken411 three years ago. This was on top of “Hoboken Intersection Parking: Part I” which was published four years ago – proof positive that parking has been plaguing Hoboken for a long time.

The city is finally beginning to realize that Hoboken411’s ideas make 100% sense, and have begun implementing some parking bollards near intersections – making it nearly impossible to park there (unless you’re a wacked out Hertz on Demand Connect customer).

Some bollards installed in peculiar locations

While this has the slight resemblance of a somewhat good sign – some bollards are being installed in locations that are a total waste of money – like this corner at 11th and Hudson, which never needed them. Seems like the city is going way out of their way to “protect” the little Hertz Connect cars.

Speaking of Hertz Corner Cars. Many Hoboken residents are puzzled by the all-out blitz that the city is taking to promote these cars – wondering if we’ll hear about some kind of back-room envelope deal that has been made between certain city officials and Hertz management. Only time will tell – it just takes one mole to blow the whistle on that. Additionally – others have been reluctant to sign up, because they fear Hertz will share private and confidential information with the city (like the names and addresses of those who signed up.) That would be illegal – and heads would roll. Get the paper-shredders going city hall!

Lastly – the program to socialize transportation has been an abject failure so far – with the city falling 98% short of their promise to remove 750 cars from the streets of Hoboken.

See the original idea that Hoboken City Officials are finally starting to listen to – after the jump.

8/23/2007:

Back in November of 2006, there was an original article on 411 that talked about intersection parking and some ideas to improve overall safety. Take a look at that after you read this.

Nine months has transpired since the first article, and little has been done about the GROWING problem of parking, accidents, pedestrians getting hit and more, it’s time to revisit this problem once again. Maybe new blood in the City Council will take some of these suggestions and come up with a solution. Definitely more complicated than it seems.

Since writing that article, I frequently think about ways that safety can be improved almost each time I cross an intersection (either driving, riding my bike or walking).

Here are some of my proposed ideas, along with the potential pros and cons. What are your thoughts?

Number 1: “Inner Corners: Clear line of sight in BOTH directions”

A prime example of this is the corner of Bloomfield and Newark near city hall. After a couple accidents in a short amount of time, the city “responded” by putting one single bollard there to prevent EXTREMELY close parking to the corner. This is definitely NOT enough, in my opinion. It’s STILL hard to see if anyone is coming, especially if an SUV is parked right by that pole. Despite NJ law prohibiting parking only 10 or 15 feet from a corner or stop sign, Hoboken needs a special ordinance to make these inner corners very easy to see from both directions. I believe it’s an excellent solution.

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My suggestion: Even though Hoboken has in the neighborhood of 200 intersections, take 50-100 of the top trafficked corners and banish parking 30, 40 or even 50 feet on each inner corner, both directions. Signs alone will NOT help. Bollards or even extending the curb out are the only solution.

Pros: Eliminates “guess work” at the intersection. Be able to see much further in each direction. That extra second or two will certainly prevent many fender benders. Reduced “intersection creep”, drivers will have more confidence that the coast is clear. Less accidents, personal injury and property damage.

Cons: If this prevents 4 to 6 cars from parking per intersection, that could mean 200-600 cars with nowhere to park. We need more garages. Also doesn’t help pedestrian issues at other corners per se. Plan may be too ambitious. Perhaps try with the worst 10 to 20 intersections first. Write a case study.

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Another 411 reader mentioned the next idea…

Number 2: “2-way stop signs at every intersection”

Hoboken all way stop signsThis is certainly a solution that can be considered. I believe there’s one similar on 6th and Bloomfield. However, what if we had 50-100 extra “all way stop” intersections? This will certainly cause much more congestion, especially at rush hours, and during special events in Hoboken.

Pros: Almost guaranteed safer streets. Slower moving vehicles. Improved pedestrian safety at all corners. More available parking.

Cons: Increased driver frustration. More pollution. Honking. Traffic & congestion. Road Rage.

Number 3: “Super speed humps – all directions”?

We already have many speed bumps around town. Some of them are even starting to deteriorate. This idea would put “super” bumps to try and slow people down.

Pros: Drivers will learn quickly to lighten their lead feet. More available parking.

Cons: Vehicular damage. Slower emergency response times. Lawsuits. Driver education program would probably be necessary. Noise from rattling trucks. Speedy drunks will certainly get airborne and probably kill someone.

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What do you think of my “inner corner” solution?

While I certainly don’t believe I have an issue understanding my surroundings and being keen at detecting oncoming traffic, creating a clear line of sight for BOTH directions would simply be the best solution for everyone. Narrow streets over-congested with parked cars, and nutty drivers with speed in their blood make this an obvious and effective solution.

For those worried about cost, I think regardless of the financials, this is one of the most pressing issues in Hoboken, and should be handled with PRIORITY.

Discuss.

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44 Comments on "Hoboken Intersection Parking: Part II"


Member
8 years 11 days ago

I would like to add another facet to this discussion. In truly inept fasion, NJ/Hudson Co/Hoboken apparently failed to re-asses local traffic sign/light conditions in the immediate area of the new light rail stations a few years back. For a town with Stop signs EVERYWHERE, its criminally stupid that there are none protecting the hundreds of people walking to and from 9th St Rail station. What’s worse is that many Hoboken drivers know they are in a stretch of road where they actually don’t have to stop every block, so several decide to get up to speed and honk like holy hell at anyone who might stop to let pedestrians go. The drivers feel entitled not to stop in an area where by design you have LOTS of people walking accross the street. There must be stop signs on Monroe driving south at 9th and 8th street intersections. I am amazed nobody has been hit yet.

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jpl
8 years 11 days ago

Someone seemed to notice that the intersection at Grand and Newark was particularly bad, and the bollards on the NE corner of Newark are relatively new there. Maybe 6 mos old?

Curious how some intersections have been recognized by the city as a problem, I wonder what can be done so that other intersections get the same treatment.

Anyone have any ideas on who/how those bollards ended up there?

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fantasmagoried
8 years 11 days ago

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My suggestion would be to build out the side walk a few feet on the corner of intersections. This will serve to:

1) stop parking close to the corner
2) give pedestrians crossing greater visibility around the growing number of SUVs parked on the streets
3) act as a traffic-calming measure that would be way more acceptable than those annoying speed-humps.

It may be a little expensive, but if done right, this could work well. There would still be enough width for the inevitable trucks (fire, and other), as well as the fact that this would not actually effect greatly the amount of parking space on any street.

Thoughts, anyone? πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ :) :mrgreen: πŸ’‘

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SRM
8 years 11 days ago

I like fantasmagoried idea. Also, how about a police department that enforces traffic and public safty laws. One novel idea would be ticketing those who run stop signs and fail to yield to pedestrians. That’s too boring for our men in blue.

Member
8 years 11 days ago

Extending the corners – the second best idea that Hoboken won’t use right after ziplines to the Path.