Reader Mail: Taxi Stand Etiquette

10/26/2007:

hoboken-taxi.jpgReceived another reader email about issues with the taxi stand. Wasn’t sure where to put it, so I bumped this old article from March. This is one of the ongoing and blatant violations of the “one fare per cab” law in Hoboken that NEVER gets upheld.

“When I get off the PATH and hail a taxi from the line, it clearly states on the side of the cab that it only takes “one fare per cab.” Yet the cabs pick up additional passengers. It’s not the end of the world, but at times it is annoying to have to go to other stops before your own.

Is this just a local custom or are they breaking a law or is it a “recommendation” that they don’t ever follow?”

Read some other interesting stuff that was mentioned about “taxi law” in Hoboken after the jump.

Nothing has changed.

3/22/2007 Update #2:

Got a little more info about the city hall emailer. I asked who it was, why it was coming from a gmail account, etc. He responds:


“I’m an internet guy/political junkie, a city government employee. With some graphic designers, I’m overhauling their entire online presence, but that is a long term project. In the meantime, I’m acting as the conduit between city hall and everything online. So when something pops up that I think should be addressed, I get the wheels turning. Hoboken isn’t my only account (actually I’m all over the place), but I do what I can.

I’d appreciate it if you could confirm this is a city hall employee. But, as a conduit, I’m no one and everyone. Almost always, I will be speaking on behalf of someone else, in some part of city government. So who I am specifically isn’t really that important.”

3/22/2007 Update:

A helpful person called “hobokencityhall@gmail.com” (the one who emailed the Library video) sent this email today regarding the taxi stand by the PATH, along with a PDF of the licensed taxis. Who is this person? “The Secret Mayor”?

Download the list here: http://www.divshare.com/download/268688-389

I wanted to let you know that the people in constituent services are working to resolve some of the issues with the taxi stand. There are several courses of action we can take, and it will take some time to review and decide on the best one. We’ll let you know soon.

But for now, something proactive citizens can do is to be aware of what cabs can and will be held responsible to your city government if acting improperly. When we get complaints about taxis, we often find the worst offenders aren’t from Hoboken, and therefore, they are unaccountable to us. (These cabs are not allowed in line at the taxi stand, and many times are the offenders who pick up those off line.)

So, for your readers’ information and your Transportation section of the Hoboken Directory, here are the cabs, limos, and the livery service that are licensed with the City of Hoboken. Thanks

3/12/2007:
Here a Hoboken411 reader gripes about the selfish actions some people take when on the supposedly civil taxi line, as well as the cabs that play along. What makes some people think they don’t have to wait like the rest?

hoboken-taxi.jpgDo you know if there are any rules for the taxi stand outside the PATH? It seems that about 90% of people wait on the makeshift line on the street, and then idiots run on the sidewalk to the cabs down Hudson Street bypassing the line. You would think enough people would be mature enough to respect the line, but once one person does it, drunk jackasses and the classy neighborhood girls can’t wait to join them. One (easy) solution: Tell the cab companies they aren’t allowed to pick people up until the beginning of the line (after all, that’s why there is a cab stand in the first place). Supposedly the cab stand is there for safety issues, so tickets could be issued (and enforced by setting up a camera there,) as opposed to needing constant screening by policemen. Anyone else agree?

Anonymous

The city code has no specific provisions for “cutting the line” at the taxi stand. One could argue that picking up passengers outside the ordered line may be considered “cruising” as stated in the city ordinance:

ยง 179-23. Solicitation of passengers; acceptance and discharge of passengers; cruising.

J. Cruising shall be allowed so long as it is conducted within the following criteria:

(2) Cruising shall not be allowed within five hundred (500) feet of a taxi stand. Cruising is prohibited within fifty (50) feet of a bus stop, unless hailed by a prospective passenger.

If that is not enforceable, I feel nothing can be done about it until the city ordinance is amended. Maybe we can add an amendment that causes the city cab to relinquish control and drive directly into the Hudson River each time they try to cheat.

Photo credit: Claus Guglberger

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175 Comments on "Reader Mail: Taxi Stand Etiquette"


bunbury
Member
bunbury
6 years 9 months ago

And by the way, when I say that I don’t want to share a cab they most certainly do not listen….they continue to stop in the line and ask for destinations.
I would rather pay more to take the ferry than deal with the cab stand downtown every night. Luckily I don’t commute late-night so I have the luxury of choice.

DEADMAU5
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DEADMAU5
6 years 9 months ago

Of course they don’t listen. They know nothing will happen to them. Aside from myself, I know countless people who have called to complain about the drivers. From not taking solo to rude to on the phone. Calls are made to complain and lodge complaints and calls are never returned nor are investigations opened up. Should drivers be brought before a judge and get fined or lose license to drive for 90 days this will continue to happen. The issue is the town not taking a hard stance to combat the issue. Hire someone to stand around the corner and catch the guys in the act is an ideaor create a law that charges the fare with a summons for allowing additional riders beyond the 2 allowed. If the people do not stand up, nothing will happen

In response to bunbury who said:
And by the way, when I say that I don’t want to share a cab they most certainly do not listen….they continue to stop in the line and ask for destinations.
I would rather pay more to take the ferry than deal with the cab stand downtown every night. Luckily I don’t commute late-night so I have the luxury of choice.

bokenresident
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bokenresident
6 years 9 months ago

I don’t understand why someone would want to enforce the “one fare per cab”? It makes the line longer and slower for everyone. Is safety the concern?
I don’t mind sharing a cab with one or two other people if it gets me out of the rain/snow/wind faster. If you really want your own cab, you can ask for one.
The cabbies are usually pretty good about the order of the drop-off, but even if it takes an exta 2 to 4 minutes because they make a mistake, I like the idea of being in a car with heat instead of on the line getting cold and wet. The cabbies can make more money and I get my ride faster…seems like a win/win to me…am I missing something?

DEADMAU5
Member
DEADMAU5
6 years 9 months ago

It is called price gouging. 2 people go to a pizza shop and order 1 slice, you charge for 1 slice not 2. If all cab drivers makes 3 stops, then the line will be just as long for people waiting. There are buses in town, take one. If it rains, bring an umbrella, everyone else does. Cab is a luxury not a courtesy. You don’t like the rules, move out of town

In response to bokenresident who said:
I don’t understand why someone would want to enforce the “one fare per cab”? It makes the line longer and slower for everyone. Is safety the concern?
I don’t mind sharing a cab with one or two other people if it gets me out of the rain/snow/wind faster. If you really want your own cab, you can ask for one.
The cabbies are usually pretty good about the order of the drop-off, but even if it takes an exta 2 to 4 minutes because they make a mistake, I like the idea of being in a car with heat instead of on the line getting cold and wet. The cabbies can make more money and I get my ride faster…seems like a win/win to me…am I missing something?

Stpaddygirl
Member
8 years 11 months ago

Saturday night we took a cab uptown when we went to exit I asked how much? Indian Way is $5 but all other cabs are $4 so the guy says to me $10. I was like what?? My friend that does not live in town said ok and I said NO! It must be $4 then I was unsure if it was $4 or $5 with your car service but now you are getting $4. I told him not to rip off people coming into town for holiday parties that is not right. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

strand tramp
Member
strand tramp
8 years 11 months ago

newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-stdriv295437229oct29,0,1198126.story
article out on drivers licenses for illegals…claims there are 500,000-1,000,000 illegals driving in NY with fake or NO drivers license and NO insurance.

strand tramp
Member
strand tramp
8 years 11 months ago

got in a car service from united sunday afternoon…guy couldn’t speak a word of english. he blew thru one of those Yield to Pedestrians signs as he blew the horn at a women and two 5-8yr old girls who had stepped into the street to cross. i told him to slow down…told him he’s supposed to stop for pedestrians…NOT A F’N WORD OF ENGLISH from this person.
yeah, he’s not an illegal, and i know he would never ever run from a traffic acccident or if he it a pedestrian.
LET’S STOP TAKING THE CAR SERVICES AND CABS. get on the bus if you can. boycott the cabs/car services!

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