Reader Mail: Taxi Stand Etiquette
10/26/2007:
Received another reader email about issues with the taxi stand. Wasn’t sure where to put it, so I bumped this old article from March. This is one of the ongoing and blatant violations of the “one fare per cab” law in Hoboken that NEVER gets upheld.
“When I get off the PATH and hail a taxi from the line, it clearly states on the side of the cab that it only takes “one fare per cab.” Yet the cabs pick up additional passengers. It’s not the end of the world, but at times it is annoying to have to go to other stops before your own.
Is this just a local custom or are they breaking a law or is it a “recommendation” that they don’t ever follow?”
Read some other interesting stuff that was mentioned about “taxi law” in Hoboken after the jump.
Nothing has changed.
3/22/2007 Update #2:
Got a little more info about the city hall emailer. I asked who it was, why it was coming from a gmail account, etc. He responds:
“I’m an internet guy/political junkie, a city government employee. With some graphic designers, I’m overhauling their entire online presence, but that is a long term project. In the meantime, I’m acting as the conduit between city hall and everything online. So when something pops up that I think should be addressed, I get the wheels turning. Hoboken isn’t my only account (actually I’m all over the place), but I do what I can.I’d appreciate it if you could confirm this is a city hall employee. But, as a conduit, I’m no one and everyone. Almost always, I will be speaking on behalf of someone else, in some part of city government. So who I am specifically isn’t really that important.”
3/22/2007 Update:
A helpful person called “hobokencityhall@gmail.com” (the one who emailed the Library video) sent this email today regarding the taxi stand by the PATH, along with a PDF of the licensed taxis. Who is this person? “The Secret Mayor”?
Download the list here: http://www.divshare.com/download/268688-389
I wanted to let you know that the people in constituent services are working to resolve some of the issues with the taxi stand. There are several courses of action we can take, and it will take some time to review and decide on the best one. We’ll let you know soon.
But for now, something proactive citizens can do is to be aware of what cabs can and will be held responsible to your city government if acting improperly. When we get complaints about taxis, we often find the worst offenders aren’t from Hoboken, and therefore, they are unaccountable to us. (These cabs are not allowed in line at the taxi stand, and many times are the offenders who pick up those off line.)
So, for your readers’ information and your Transportation section of the Hoboken Directory, here are the cabs, limos, and the livery service that are licensed with the City of Hoboken. Thanks
3/12/2007:
Here a Hoboken411 reader gripes about the selfish actions some people take when on the supposedly civil taxi line, as well as the cabs that play along. What makes some people think they don’t have to wait like the rest?
Do you know if there are any rules for the taxi stand outside the PATH? It seems that about 90% of people wait on the makeshift line on the street, and then idiots run on the sidewalk to the cabs down Hudson Street bypassing the line. You would think enough people would be mature enough to respect the line, but once one person does it, drunk jackasses and the classy neighborhood girls can’t wait to join them. One (easy) solution: Tell the cab companies they aren’t allowed to pick people up until the beginning of the line (after all, that’s why there is a cab stand in the first place). Supposedly the cab stand is there for safety issues, so tickets could be issued (and enforced by setting up a camera there,) as opposed to needing constant screening by policemen. Anyone else agree?
Anonymous
The city code has no specific provisions for “cutting the line” at the taxi stand. One could argue that picking up passengers outside the ordered line may be considered “cruising” as stated in the city ordinance:
§ 179-23. Solicitation of passengers; acceptance and discharge of passengers; cruising.
J. Cruising shall be allowed so long as it is conducted within the following criteria:
(2) Cruising shall not be allowed within five hundred (500) feet of a taxi stand. Cruising is prohibited within fifty (50) feet of a bus stop, unless hailed by a prospective passenger.
If that is not enforceable, I feel nothing can be done about it until the city ordinance is amended. Maybe we can add an amendment that causes the city cab to relinquish control and drive directly into the Hudson River each time they try to cheat.
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175 Responses to ** Reader Mail: Taxi Stand Etiquette **
October 26th, 2007 |
I’m probably one of the rare ones who actually use a seat belt, but I get totally annoyed getting into a cab with nonworking seat belts. With the way people drive in Hoboken, I would rather not be caught in an accident and flying around the interior of a taxi into all the other passengers.
A cab with busted seatbelts makes me wonder how safe the rest of the car is, and the last time it was inspected. I really wonder about the safety of some of these vehicles.
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October 26th, 2007 |
I *ALWAYS* wear a seatbelt. I don’t trust the cab driver and I don’t trust other drivers on the street.
Besides, nothing messes up your night more than bashing your face into plexiglass. A lot of those cabs shouldn’t even be on the road.
I recall reading a year or two ago, that Roberts has a bunch of them spot inspected and they pulled something like 20-30 off the road for violations. Kudos to the Mayor for that, I took notice.
However, they really need to do that more often because since then I have been in several cabs that didn’t have working seatbelts and one or two that smelled like gasoline or exhaust in the backseat.
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October 27th, 2007 |
This is when State inspectors were brought in, to do the job that the city inspectors aren’t capable of.
I agree – I think Mayor Roberts bringing in the State to inspect the cabs every so often is a great idea. I hope he keeps up with it, and isn’t it about time for one now…?
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October 27th, 2007 |
With the conditions of these cabs and the way any cabby drives damn tuting I’m wearing a seatbelt, if I can find it buried between the seats.
If I’ve been in the city all day, I don’t mind getting into a cab full of people as long as I get home faster. I’ve had a few friendly chats, too.
It’s better than those mysterious, uninsured, non-medalion sedans that cruise the avenue at night. Are they trying to make a buck, or do they think I am.
Even if they pack them during peak hours or inclement weather, these cabbies are barely scratching out a livelyhood
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October 28th, 2007 |
I once upon a time while living on Long Island got the impression from a cabby that they bury the belts on purpose so that no one wastes their time with them. I used to take a cab if the train got in and I missed the bus. I would make a stink about the belts. Complain to the dispatchers. I was a real b!tch about it.
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October 28th, 2007 |
What bothers me is that every time I take a cab, and this is not unique to Hoboken, the driver is speaking on a cell phone most of the time. I wish they paid more attention to what they are doing while driving.
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October 28th, 2007 |
In response to aap who said:
Uh, yeah, that would be a moving violation. Here’s an idea — call the cops on your own driver. While you’re in the car.
“Hello, 911, yes, I’m in a taxi car being driven by a questionably-domiciled foreign individual. We’re speeding through stop signs and red lights, his identification card is missing from the back window, I can see the street through the hole rotted in the car floor, and he’s screaming into his cell phone, something about he wants his blow right now. I can’t figure out if he’s talking about a sex slave or illegal pharmaceuticals.
Yeah, just thought you’d like to know. We’re about to go through the corner of X Street and Y Avenue. Yes, I’m looking forward to seeing your patrol car very soon. Thank you, kindly civil servant.”
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October 28th, 2007 |
In response to judy who said:
Don’t wonder. They’re castoffs from New York. They’re the jalopies that can’t get past the TLC b/c they’re either too old or have been in an “incident.”
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October 29th, 2007 |
got in a car service from united sunday afternoon…guy couldn’t speak a word of english. he blew thru one of those Yield to Pedestrians signs as he blew the horn at a women and two 5-8yr old girls who had stepped into the street to cross. i told him to slow down…told him he’s supposed to stop for pedestrians…NOT A F’N WORD OF ENGLISH from this person.
yeah, he’s not an illegal, and i know he would never ever run from a traffic acccident or if he it a pedestrian.
LET’S STOP TAKING THE CAR SERVICES AND CABS. get on the bus if you can. boycott the cabs/car services!
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October 29th, 2007 |
newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-stdriv295437229oct29,0,1198126.story
article out on drivers licenses for illegals…claims there are 500,000-1,000,000 illegals driving in NY with fake or NO drivers license and NO insurance.
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October 29th, 2007 |
Saturday night we took a cab uptown when we went to exit I asked how much? Indian Way is $5 but all other cabs are $4 so the guy says to me $10. I was like what?? My friend that does not live in town said ok and I said NO! It must be $4 then I was unsure if it was $4 or $5 with your car service but now you are getting $4. I told him not to rip off people coming into town for holiday parties that is not right.
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December 27th, 2009 |
I don’t understand why someone would want to enforce the “one fare per cab”? It makes the line longer and slower for everyone. Is safety the concern?
I don’t mind sharing a cab with one or two other people if it gets me out of the rain/snow/wind faster. If you really want your own cab, you can ask for one.
The cabbies are usually pretty good about the order of the drop-off, but even if it takes an exta 2 to 4 minutes because they make a mistake, I like the idea of being in a car with heat instead of on the line getting cold and wet. The cabbies can make more money and I get my ride faster…seems like a win/win to me…am I missing something?
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December 28th, 2009 |
It is called price gouging. 2 people go to a pizza shop and order 1 slice, you charge for 1 slice not 2. If all cab drivers makes 3 stops, then the line will be just as long for people waiting. There are buses in town, take one. If it rains, bring an umbrella, everyone else does. Cab is a luxury not a courtesy. You don’t like the rules, move out of town
In response to bokenresident who said:
I don’t understand why someone would want to enforce the “one fare per cab”? It makes the line longer and slower for everyone. Is safety the concern?
I don’t mind sharing a cab with one or two other people if it gets me out of the rain/snow/wind faster. If you really want your own cab, you can ask for one.
The cabbies are usually pretty good about the order of the drop-off, but even if it takes an exta 2 to 4 minutes because they make a mistake, I like the idea of being in a car with heat instead of on the line getting cold and wet. The cabbies can make more money and I get my ride faster…seems like a win/win to me…am I missing something?
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December 28th, 2009 |
And by the way, when I say that I don’t want to share a cab they most certainly do not listen….they continue to stop in the line and ask for destinations.
I would rather pay more to take the ferry than deal with the cab stand downtown every night. Luckily I don’t commute late-night so I have the luxury of choice.
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December 28th, 2009 |
Of course they don’t listen. They know nothing will happen to them. Aside from myself, I know countless people who have called to complain about the drivers. From not taking solo to rude to on the phone. Calls are made to complain and lodge complaints and calls are never returned nor are investigations opened up. Should drivers be brought before a judge and get fined or lose license to drive for 90 days this will continue to happen. The issue is the town not taking a hard stance to combat the issue. Hire someone to stand around the corner and catch the guys in the act is an ideaor create a law that charges the fare with a summons for allowing additional riders beyond the 2 allowed. If the people do not stand up, nothing will happen
In response to bunbury who said:
And by the way, when I say that I don’t want to share a cab they most certainly do not listen….they continue to stop in the line and ask for destinations.
I would rather pay more to take the ferry than deal with the cab stand downtown every night. Luckily I don’t commute late-night so I have the luxury of choice.
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