Metrostop - 800 Jackson
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8/11/2008 Update:
Refreshed the imagery for the MetroStop thread.
When do you think this area will be buzzing with activity and residents?
PREVIOUS UPDATES, WHAT RESTAURANTS ARE COMING AND MORE, AFTER THE JUMP!!
4/28/2008:
It’d been a while since I updated construction photos, and no comments on this since August of 2007. So Metrostop qualifies as today’s Hoboken411 “Blast from the Past.”
I’ve heard that the building is still under 50% sold. Here are some other miscellaneous questions:
- Will they convert the rest of the condo units to rentals?
- Does potentially having a Starbucks there make or break anyone’s decision to purchase?
- Will the light rail noise be too much for some people?
- Is the area safe, even with new businesses coming eventually?
PHOTO GALLERY (HOLD MOUSE OVER IMAGE TO NAVIGATE - 2 PHOTOS IN THIS SET)
7/20/2007 Update:
Just a construction photo to see how tall it is now.
6/19/2007 Update:
Building going up pretty fast. These pictures were taken over a week ago.
Also included as one of the “perks” is Amelia’s Bistro, which already has an establishment in Jersey City. Anyone been there? Looks pretty decent.
MetroStop has also almost finished their website, where you can read about various “perks”. How do you feel about their glorious writeup?
Hey, I’m all for quality of life improvements across the board in our city, but honestly, I feel as if I’d be living in Utopia if I stayed there. Is that possible?
“The Perks”
Even though getting to the city is fast and easy, you may never have to—or at least never want to—thanks to the amenities at Metrostop. Between the energy of Hoboken and the pleasures that surround it, Manhattan may get left out of your weekend plans.
The Sculpture Park
Metrostop does more than just give back to the environment. It’s an integral part of the cultural legacy of Hoboken. Between your doors and the light rail, we’ve planned a lush sculpture park perfect for strolling, lounging, or just soaking up the sun.
The Landscaped Roof Deck
While Metrostop’s roof is great for both the ecosystem and your utility bill, it’s also the perfect place to enjoy a breathtaking, bird’s-eye glimpse of Manhattan’s skyline from your private grassy perch.
The Ground Floor Retail
If you do feel like leaving home but not going very far, just hop in the elevator. The glittering glass-enclosed ground floor is home to the scrumptious Amelia’s Bistro, a coffee shop and At Your Service Now concierge (dry cleaning, flowers, shoe shine, dog walking, car service, theater tickets, and maid service). Metrostop will also be a Zipcar location, with a fleet of energy efficient Prius’s available to our homeowners.
The Fitness Center & Clubroom
Exercise your right to luxury living in Metrostop’s state-of-the-art fitness center. With generous windows, brand new equipment, plenty of sunlight, and personal LCD TV’s on every cardio machine, it’s hard to procrastinate visiting a gym like this.
Meanwhile, in the adjoining Clubroom, you’ll find all the space and amenities you need to entertain on a grand scale. There’s a wet bar, lounge seating, an entertainment center, billiards table, and temperature controlled wine storage with private bins for residents. All that’s missing is your guest list.
Here’s their version of a Hoboken Map. Pretty informative for newcomers, but I didn’t realize we had cruise ships for Ferry boats.
3/16/2007 Update:
Here’s some photos snapped by a reader. It’s a little close to the tracks, no?
I suppose a derailment would ruin any chance at having a successful dinner party.
3/8/2007:
This is the correct thread to discuss the Metrostop project next to the 9th Street Light Rail station. It was inadvertently included as part of the 800 Monroe Project discussed earlier. Thanks to all for clarifying.
141. TheGreenMan | April 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I just walked by last weekend because it had been awhile, and I guess the property looks OK. It’s just way too close to the tracks for my taste. I live a few blocks away and I can tell you that this building should be a nice addition…but the one across the street (across 9th from the Shop Rite buildilng) is way too big for the property, and will make the whole area feel overbuilt all by itself.
Does anyone know what’s going on with the other block between 9th and 10th on Monroe? Obviously it won’t become parkland (that would be ridiculous) but is there a plan anyhow?
I think a park would be safer than you think. The difference in the back area between 5 years ago and now is pretty incredible. Most of the new development seems to be generally positive…and there is a good community building slowly back there. If the warehouse is demolished back there, it will be good. Of course, it would also require open space, which is probably too much to ask. Plus there’s a biiiit of a flooding problem.
142. hobokenj | April 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
it still awfully close to the projects and in the summer they would treat a park back there like there own personal backyard. I cant see many of the upper grand parents taking there kids to the playground to share with the project kids.
143. agentorange | April 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am
westy wrote:
Poor urban planning, where the hell have you been meng. Why dont you come to JC and take a stroll to Ocean Ave. and then we can chat about poor urban planning.
Open your damn eyes..you folks don’t even know what projects are. You see a few urban kids hanging around the block and then you freak out and hide behind your doors.
“The main focus of this plan is to rehabilitate and to really restore pocket parks throughout the city that have been neglected for years,” Mayor Healy said. “This will result in better use of the parks by our families and youngsters.”
You think Roberts has problems, take a look at Healy’s 10 year plan. It’s hopeless to save some of the pockets in that town. At least in this town I can take my lil dunns to any block and not worry about catching slugs. Ya’ll need to wake up brothas and sistahs.
144. hoboken hammer | May 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I really hope they fix the streets back there. I park in the garage on 8th and Jefferson and because of the 1 ways, go around the back around Madison. The street is all potholed and warped from the trucks and construction vehicles its terrible. They really need to pave it.
145. tre1818 | May 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Not sure why the northwest developments get such a bad rap; Ive lived in the NW for five years and liked it alot.
To close to the projects? Isnt the entire west side of Hoboken close to the projects? How about 5th and Adams? 3rd and Madison? Just as close as 8-9th and Jackson (which is at least shielded by the arts center)
If you dont like it dont go there - oh but wait, Im sure the Shop Rite is safe enough for everyone.
146. MileSquareGuy | May 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Metro Stop is NOT GREEN. I was a bit put off by their marketing angle as a green building. The only aspect of their greeness seems to be a rooftop that is covered with vegetation. They misleading the public. Being “green” typically has something to do with LEED certification. This building will not be LEED certified so it does not qualify as being eco friendly save for a landscaped roof. Here’s a good resource for those interested in truly green developments: http://www.ecobroker.com/. Garden Street Lofts may be the first residential LEED certified building in Hoboken.
147. nosferatu | May 10th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
All LEED-certified buildings are green. No argument there. But that doesn’t mean that all non-LEED-certified buildings are NOT green. A building can have some sustainable features and not be LEED-certified because it doesn’t have 26 points from its list. That just means that it’s not AS green as a LEED-certified building.
Clearly, Metro Stop is not LEED-certified and it’s also not as green as many sustainable buildings out there. But it could have some features that would count as LEED points, such as being close to mass transit, have high-efficiency HVAC units, increased daylighting and ventilation etc. and others that are not visibly apparent. And it’s true that many buildings in Hoboken not marketed as green have these features as well.
Is it true that Metro Homes is being overzealous and overly tricksy in marketing this as a green building? Absolutely. They don’t have anywhere near the 26 points from what I see. But at least it’s a tad greener than other buildings that have NO sustainable features.
My general point is that you should be careful about tying “green-ness” into LEED-certification in such absolute ways. It’s not a one-to-one relationship. LEED is a good system, but it’s not anywhere near perfect. It’s mainly designed for commercial and institutional buildings where there is lots of energy waste. It hasn’t been tailored specifically to multi-family residential buildings yet (they keep saying they’re coming up with a LEED for multi-family, but it’s been forever…).
Right now, it’s not easy to make a multi-family building LEED-certified. E.g., one of their mandatory points (i.e., it doesn’t matter how many points you have, if you don’t have the mandatory ones, it can’t be certified) is that it must be a no-smoking building. How do you do that with residential? It’s possible, and LEED provides an alternative, but it’s not easy.
There are many residential buildings out there that are trying to be sustainable but are short a few points from LEED-certification. Sometimes those last few points can tip a project from being profitable to just breaking even. LEED APs will always say that it’s easier and cheaper to certify a building now more than ever and the sooner you start the process to design it that way, the easier it is. This is true, but only to some extent, and more so for commercial buildings. As I said, residential buildings are not easy to certify - yet. Eventually, when the USGBC gets it’s act together, it’ll come out with LEED for multi-family and we can all enjoy the benefits of sustainability with relative ease.
Until then don’t assume that every building that’s not LEED-certified just “can’t be green.”
148. homeworld | May 10th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
LEED Buildings don’t have to be smoke free. You just have to provide designated smoking areas that have proper ventilation.
149. nosferatu | May 10th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Forgot one thing.
A big reason why it’s hard to make a condo building LEED-certified, apart from getting the points, is that the building is not going to be used and occupied by the same people who are building it. So it’s hard to tell a developer that sustainable features pay for themselves in the long run. Sure, they can invest in sustainability and try to pass these costs off to the buyer, but they’ll only do so much. They have to be targeting buyers who are willing to pay more for sustainability (like buyers of hybrid cars). This market is growing, but it’s still small (again, look at hybrid cars).
The decision is easier for commercial and institutional buildings because the developers are usually also the occupants and will reap the benefits in the long run.
What should be happening is that governments at all levels should be requiring some level of sustainability in all or most new buildings. It should be incorporated into zoning codes, ordinances, and tax incentives for green features. This should be happening in a large scale NOW.
I’m sure all but the most libertarian among you can agree with that.
150. nosferatu | May 10th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
homeworld wrote:
True. But in a condo building, are you going to tell people to go to one place to smoke? No, they have to be able to smoke in their apartments, so in effect each apt. is a designated smoking area.
But doing that for each apartment is not easy. The requirement for fresh air intake for smoking areas is greater than otherwise required by the mechanical code for dwelling units. If you apply the same requirement for each apartment, you have to use higher capacity air handlers than you otherwise would (more fresh air and more air changes per hour), which is a significant cost and actually uses more energy. Plus, the air handlers would have to be on 24/7, which is even more of a waste.
You also can’t rely on open windows, because what happens in the winter when the windows are closed?
151. FitGuy | July 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I had a chance to go inside this place about 2 months ago. I must say that I’m happy I didn’t pull the trigger on buying a 2BR/2bath over a year ago when they were still fairly cheap.
If you havne’t been inside let me tell you that the units are very small, poorly laid out and not worth the money.
The guy who built these is out of his mind thinking people will pay that much money to live near the projects.
My only regret is that I may miss an opportunity to grab a 40 oz at the nearest hoodrat liquor store and hang out atop my my new overpriced “not green” building listening to the lightrail whiz by. Ha, ha, ha….
152. danzig | August 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
hobokenj wrote:
And now I suppose you’re going to offer an artfully crafted denial that your post stuck of Chatham-style white supremacy. Before doing so, work a tad bit on your possessive pronouns. You’re talking about children, you monster. Black, white, green or red. They’re kids. Probably not having any of your own, not to mention the opportunity to ever engage in the act which creates them, you probably haven’t experienced their innocence and color-blindness at parks and schools here in Hoboken and elsewhere. You say you “can’t see” upper grand parents mingling their kids with the lesser breeds of Jackson Street and beyond. Well, take a brief moment to try to see, try to imagine, try to grow beyond the pathetic suburban cocoon that you’ve recreated in Hoboken.