City Complicates Parking

12/14/2010:

Parking as complicated as cell phone plans

As most drivers know, parking is one of the biggest headaches in Hoboken.

But for those that can afford it, there are many garage options available – both from private companies, as well as city-run garages. Having your own reserved spot in any of garages in town usually is in the neighborhood of $275 – $300.

Besides regular (grossly over-priced) hourly parking – some spots in city garages are for monthly parkers.

However, the city has recently begun over-complicating the process and trying to squeeze each last penny from the system – at the same time touting them as “savings” for you.

Let’s take the recently introduced “Resident Monthly Limited” plan. At Garage B for instance, the usual monthly rate for an unreserved spot is $235. However, you can get a “limited” monthly spot for $180/month. But to qualify for the limited plan, you must remove the car from the garage during the hours of 10am to 4pm each weekday. The city does indicate you have two days a month where you can leave the car there during those hours. BUT, one thing the city hasn’t specified yet – is what happens when you go three, four or more days? You’ll most likely get hit with the hourly charges – which is up to $30 per day. In other words, you have to be almost PERFECT about it – or end up paying much more.

Business Parking Permits

Right now, the city charges local shop owners $200 per year for a business permit. This allows you to park on non-metered side-streets in Hoboken. Most business owners try and find spots like these FIRST (pictured above on Washington Street between 9th & 10th – 80% of the cars had business permits in the windows).

The next alternative is parking in a metered spot close to their business (and consequently “stuffing” the meters every two hours). This is easy for many local biz owners because a number of them arrive right after the street cleaner passes, with countless spots available. Business owners also like parking close to their stores, because it saves them time – and allows them quick access in case they need to run trips throughout the day. But they’ll always look for free spots first.

Recently, the city implemented a plan that allows businesses to purchase 12-hour parking permits to use at one of the three city garages (all downtown 4th street or below). These permits cost $5 per day (in addition to the $200 annual biz permit.) The city also offered an alternative to paying for both annual and daily permits – a “free” business permit that gives owners the opportunity to buy the discounted daily passes – but they can no longer park on side streets all day.

While this may sound on paper like a great idea – and that in theory would “free up parking for customers,” I have my doubts because it is just more confusing government policies and regulations.

Consider this:

  • It’s human nature when driving to a destination in Hoboken to find a spot closest to where you’re going.
  • Few businesses will try to save $200 a year – but remove their ability to park on side streets.
  • The downtown garages in effect, will only be attractive options for the businesses in the immediate vicinity.

Keep it simple, stupid!

If you really wanted widespread adoption of a parking program – make it as simple and affordable as possible. A “$3 a day” savings for people (most of whom try to avoid the meters if possible anyway) isn’t going to persuade them to inconveniently park in a garage that may be much further away than they’d prefer.

And the fact that daily passes are sold individually – and you need to schlep to city hall each time you run out – is another added nuisance. A better idea would be to have insanely low business parking rates at these garages. Somewhere around $300 a year would be much more attractive to biz owners, and require less “administration,” paper, and staffing at city hall. The increased business participation would take substantially more cars “off the street.”

If making parking more plentiful for shoppers in Hoboken was truly their goal (and not finding ways to milk the system as much as possible) – bolder steps would be taken.

But then again, who wants simple and easy? Someone has to justify (and keep) their job!

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23 Comments on "City Complicates Parking"

HOB424
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HOB424

Anyone else get their permit renewal notice? Received mine on 12/18. However, there little form says must be received by 12/15/10. Can’t go back in time! Also, checked the city website says they must be received by February 26, 2010. Does anyone in City Hall use a calendar?????

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HoneyDew
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HoneyDew

These are exactly the small miss details that need to be addressed if anyone is going to take this crue seriously. 😀 [quote comment=”201062″]Anyone else get their permit renewal notice? Received mine on 12/18. However, there little form says must be received by 12/15/10. Can’t go back in time! Also, checked the city website says they must be received by February 26, 2010. Does anyone in City Hall use a calendar????? [/quote]

xtreme
Member

We called the parking authority about this this morning and they said the date is a misprint. It should be 1/15.

homeworld
Member

The same “misprint” was there last year too (I still have a copy of my 2010 renewal). And why did they ask for my email address last year if they’re asking for it again this year, but obviously didn’t do anything with it last year. [quote comment=”201045″]We called the parking authority about this this morning and they said the date is a misprint. It should be 1/15.[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

home and xtreme..was a misprint..the line looked like carlos bakery. home I never lecture on the past..thats yesterday as well as many of our parents and grandparents that come to mind on the holidays…Its a time for rememberence.. When your a bnr and have to pay for pkg as well as newbee homeowners..chittttt…You pay enough tax..for your homes.. Thiis all started 30 years ago when wise assrs parked here from out of the city and went to work in nyc..this is not a nebee thing.. With all the revenue that comes in from the meters alone and the two and boots,wisen up..your tax should be much lower[quote comment=”201045″]We called the parking authority about this this morning and they said the date is a misprint. It should be 1/15.[/quote]

snksos
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snksos

Why do they tell me to have the parking check for 2011 back on 12/15 but I don’t get the letter until 12/18? Was I supposed to anticipate the letter?

homeworld
Member

I agree. I got my letter this weekend, and apparently the HPU stickers already expire next week. And if I needed to have any of my paperwork revised based on their new rules, lots of luck trying to accomplish that this week or next. [quote comment=”201033″]Why do they tell me to have the parking check for 2011 back on 12/15 but I don’t get the letter until 12/18? Was I supposed to anticipate the letter?[/quote]

homeworld
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wiskeytango1 I remember when you could keep your car on Sinatra Street for days at a time. The worse that would happen is that you’d get a $15 ticket, still much less than paying to park in a garage. And that was only ten years ago.

Hoboken17
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Hoboken17

I remember when you could buy a pack of cigarettes for $3 and a gallon of gas for $1.50. That was only 10 years ago. But what relevance does this have on today’s issues? Absolutely nothing. Times change, people change, cities change. The world has changed believe it or not. You guys love to harp on the past and how everything was so great back then but NEVER offer any solutions for TODAY’S problems. If it was so much better back then, why dont you actually try to do something about it instead of verbally yearning for the past.[quote comment=”200929″]wiskeytango1 I remember when you could keep your car on Sinatra Street for days at a time. The worse that would happen is that you’d get a $15 ticket, still much less than paying to park in a garage. And that was only ten years ago.[/quote]

homeworld
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The relevance was wiskeytango1 lecturing me on the history of the HPU and how parking “used to be.” [quote comment=”200945″]I remember when you could buy a pack of cigarettes for $3 and a gallon of gas for $1.50. That was only 10 years ago. But what relevance does this have on today’s issues? Absolutely nothing. Times change, people change, cities change. The world has changed believe it or not. You guys love to harp on the past and how everything was so great back then but NEVER offer any solutions for TODAY’S problems. If it was so much better back then, why dont you actually try to do something about it instead of verbally yearning for the past.

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wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

homeworld..your city council jacked up them pkg fees..each and every one of them for they have their own private parking spots..HANDICAP spots another story..Thats another topic the PA and the council should look into..switching placards,from mommie to daughter or son..Many are not handicaped…pity on those that really need the tag.
The name of the person would be on the license or reg…Imagine how many spaces that would make for parking?[quote comment=”200929″]wiskeytango1 I remember when you could keep your car on Sinatra Street for days at a time. The worse that would happen is that you’d get a $15 ticket, still much less than paying to park in a garage. And that was only ten years ago.[/quote]

Hoboken17
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Hoboken17

I remember when you could buy a pack of cigarettes for $3 and a gallon of gas for $1.50. This was only 10 years ago. But what relevance does that have to today’s issues? Nothing! Times changes, people change, cities change. You guys keep dwelling on the past and how great everything was but never offer any solutions to today’s problems. Why dont you try to build a time machine and do something productive.[quote comment=”200929″]wiskeytango1 I remember when you could keep your car on Sinatra Street for days at a time. The worse that would happen is that you’d get a $15 ticket, still much less than paying to park in a garage. And that was only ten years ago.[/quote]

homeworld
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I was responding to wiskeytango1’s comment lecturing me on the history of the HPU. When and where did I ever agree with them or say things were better?[quote comment=”200941″]I remember when you could buy a pack of cigarettes for $3 and a gallon of gas for $1.50. This was only 10 years ago. But what relevance does that have to today’s issues? Nothing! Times changes, people change, cities change. You guys keep dwelling on the past and how great everything was but never offer any solutions to today’s problems. Why dont you try to build a time machine and do something productive.

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Hawk3y3
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Hawk3y3

Hoboken is one of the most mass-transit accessible cities in NJ (Light Rail, NJ Transit, Bus) – Eliminate half of the Non-resident parking spots, STRICTLY enforce the rules 24 HOURS A DAY and there will be SIGNIFICANLTY less parking problems in the city for the people who’s taxes keep it running…

Ian Sacs – calculate the revenue gained from enforcing overnight parking regulations vs 1 additional overnight PA shift and I’m sure it comes out in the black.

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

hawk just my opinion..Prior to Roberts incorperating the PA into the fold you must ask yourself with all the revenue coming in why taxes are not lower.. No one seems to ask this at council meetings. Most of the employees are paid in yen except for a few political brown noses,that jump fences each time a new director comes in. Parking problems will not decrease..Take a look uptown with a few more bldgs going up..Was never like this 25 years ago..Then the boobs want more space? I suggest they put playgrounds on top of their high rises..There is no more room. At tonights meeting someone should ask how much revenue the PU takes in a year.. 8) .[quote comment=”200924″]Hoboken is one of the most mass-transit accessible cities in NJ (Light Rail, NJ Transit, Bus) – Eliminate half of the Non-resident parking spots, STRICTLY enforce the rules 24 HOURS A DAY and there will be SIGNIFICANLTY less parking problems in the city for the people who’s taxes keep it running…Ian Sacs – calculate the revenue gained from enforcing overnight parking regulations vs 1 additional overnight PA shift and I’m sure it comes out in the black.[/quote]

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