Hoboken PBA to rally at City Hall again

9/16/2010 Update:

Video: Police Rally & March in Hoboken

Some raw video about what it felt like to be in the Hoboken Police Rally March on Wednesday, September 15th. From Police Headquarters on Hudson Street, around by the PATH station, up Washington Street, and arriving at City Hall – where HPD supporters were chanting “Stop the Police Layoffs, Keep Hoboken Safe!” and “Hey Hey Ho Ho, Mayor Zimmer (has) Got To Go!”

9/13/2010 Update:

Hoboken Police Rally set for Wednesday 9/15

The Hoboken Police again are set to show their unity again on Wednesday, September 15th.

Besides showing up in the hundreds at the City Council meeting, this week’s rally will start at Police Headquarters (1st and Hudson) several hours before the meeting begins at City Hall. Union officials expect the turnout for the rally to far exceed the previous one.

This is part of the ongoing debate about whether the layoffs planned by the administration were based on accurate audit data. The unions say they have evidence refuting the state’s audit – while city officials have not responded to the PBA’s analysis.

See previous updates after the jump…

9/2/2010 Update:

Lack of leadership at City Hall

Last night, hundreds of police officers and supporters showed up to the Hoboken City Council meeting in opposition of the proposed layoffs from Mayor Dawn Zimmer. Many speakers cited the massive budget surplus as well as personal raises and hirings directly authorized by Mayor Zimmer.

Hoboken Police Superior Officers Association (PSOA) President Eddie Drishti issued the following statement:

“Last night, a majority of the Hoboken City Council Members committed a glaring act of cowardice by refusing to vote on a resolution opposing Mayor Zimmer’s plan to decimate the police department through 37 lay-offs and demotions. Instead of voting Yes or No on the resolution, the Zimmer council majority hid behind a procedural maneuver to table the resolution. This is the kind of wishy-washy waffling by gutless politicians that is poisoning our political system. The officers who are losing their jobs deserve better than this silly political stunt. It was amazing to hear Councilman Ravi Ballah say that he wanted to hear what Mayor Zimmer had to say before he could vote Yes or No. Is Ballah a puppet on a string or is he an elected official?

It is appalling that Council Members Peter Cunningham, David Mello, Carol Marsh, Michael Lenz and Ballah do not have enough courage or character to simply vote Yes or No on this resolution and let the people of Hoboken know where they actually stand.”

Mayor Zimmer also issued a ambiguous statement today with no direction or absolute authority – which concluded with: “I will continue to consider their views as I make the difficult decisions that lie ahead,” which means she may flip flop on her decision if you read between the lines.

9/1/2010:

PBA Press conference and mass attendance at meeting

Tonight is a regularly scheduled Hoboken City Council Meeting at 7pm.

However, the Hoboken PBA has scheduled a 6pm conference in front of City Hall to show opposition to Mayor Zimmer’s ill-advised layoff intentions. Additionally, a website has been created for the purpose of communicating this message: Keep Hoboken Safe – which also urges residents to sign an online petition in support of keeping Hoboken’s Police force intact.

HPD officers bring fight to council meeting

PBA calls on Council to stop Mayor Zimmer from firing or demoting 37 officers while city sits on mega-million budget surplus

“The Hoboken Policemen’s Benevolent Association and Police Superior Officers Association will join forces this Wednesday, September 1st at 6 pm at City Hall, 94 Washington St., to oppose Mayor Dawn Zimmer’s plan to layoff or demote 37 Police Officers.

In addition to the outright firing of 18 police officers, Zimmer’s Layoff Plan also calls for demoting 19 superior officers – the overwhelming majority of whom currently work street duty.

Zimmer is prepared to go ahead with these layoffs and demotions despite the fact that the City of Hoboken has a $20 million budget surplus.

New Jersey State PBA President Anthony Wieners will join the Hoboken PBA and Police Superior Officers Association to speak out against Zimmer’s ill-advised layoff plan.”

Be sure to come back at 7pm for all the action!

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84 Comments on "Hoboken PBA to rally at City Hall again"

filthyHOBO
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filthyHOBO

I’m shocked by some of the responses on here. A couple of things that stick out:

1. If you do not own a home in Hoboken, do not uses the tax argument for or against your stance on the cop layoff. (this applies to council people salaries too).

2. For all those for the laying off of cops, how much money do you think this is actually going to save? We could have saved much more by tableing the stupid park by peer a, or one of the many other costly quality of life things (Bike lanes, zip cars, etc)

3. I was shocked to see Zimmer’s attitude last night as well as some of her couincil people. First she storms out of the meeting. I know she dsoesnt technically need to be there but seeing that this is a big issue, shouldnt she stay around and listen.
ALSO, when did it become acceptable for councilmen and women to do whatever they want when someone is talking. I saw council people speaking to one another, filing papers, writing, all when someone was atr the microphone. Maybe i have been naive, but this town/couuncil/administration doesnt seem to care what is best for the town, just themselves.

homeworld
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The Pier C park was paid for by the Port Authority, so not building that wouldn’t have saved Hoboken any money. Painting a bike lane costs nothing more than the paint and the time of a City employee that probably had nothing better to do anyway. Zip/Hertz cars don’t cost the City anything since the company has to pay Hoboken to run their service. [quote comment=”197464″]I’m shocked by some of the responses on here. A couple of things that stick out:1. If you do not own a home in Hoboken, do not uses the tax argument for or against your stance on the cop layoff. (this applies to council people salaries too). 2. For all those for the laying off of cops, how much money do you think this is actually going to save? We could have saved much more by tableing the stupid park by peer a, or one of the many other costly quality of life things (Bike lanes, zip cars, etc)3. I was shocked to see Zimmer’s attitude last night as well as some of her couincil people. First she storms out of the meeting. I know she dsoesnt technically need to be there but seeing that this is a big issue, shouldnt she stay around and listen. ALSO, when did it become acceptable for councilmen and women to do whatever they want when someone is talking. I saw council people speaking to one another, filing papers, writing, all when someone was atr the microphone. Maybe i… Read more »
Litteredboken
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Litteredboken

Do you know when in god’s name they are going to finish this pier?[quote comment=”197489″]The Pier C park was paid for by the Port Authority, so not building that wouldn’t have saved Hoboken any money. Painting a bike lane costs nothing more than the paint and the time of a City employee that probably had nothing better to do anyway. Zip/Hertz cars don’t cost the City anything since the company has to pay Hoboken to run their service.

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homeworld
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I think they’re waiting to finish the WTC first.[quote comment=”197493″]Do you know when in god’s name they are going to finish this pier?

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homeworld
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It was awesome yesterday at 5:30pm when the protesting police shut down Washington Street and forced all of the buses to be rerouted.

Imagine if teachers did this when they get laid off?

hobores
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hobores

Is that even legal? can any protesting group just shut down a city street? no repercussions? or is it that because they are the men in blue, people dont question their actions?[quote comment=”197459″]It was awesome yesterday at 5:30pm when the protesting police shut down Washington Street and forced all of the buses to be rerouted. Imagine if teachers did this when they get laid off?[/quote]

HomeTeam
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HomeTeam

I think the most telling thing about this political theater performance was all the illegally parked cars for blocks around city hall with PBS shields in the window.

i will say that I was happy to see many of the car-bound cops getting a workout while protesting. I think if they arrange one of these protests each week, we could have a pretty fit police force and save on health benefits.

[quote comment=”197460″]Is that even legal? can any protesting group just shut down a city street? no repercussions? or is it that because they are the men in blue, people dont question their actions?

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Derrida
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Derrida

A few questions:
1. The cops say that Hoboken’s streets will turn into a war zone if these cuts are made. Well, why haven’t the PB or PBA released any street crime stats regarding arrests made per officer per annum? In other words, when are the cops going to offer stats to JUSTIFY their position with something other than personal attacks and fear-mongering? Let us see WHERE and WHEN most arrests are made in the City of Hoboken (besides St Paddy’s Day). What are the most common types of arrests? How many felonies in a year? How many weapons-related arrests? How many assaults?

The cops’ failure to provide a logical basis for their position leads a calm and critical mind to presume they don’t have one.

Their supporters however seem skilled at making noise about their opponents’ race, religion and appearance, however.

And could someone demonstrate the logic of the argument that a newly discovered $20M surlplus some BELONGS to the PD?

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

Im sure the PBA president notified the media..local tv stations in regard to the protest. Let the people see what a wack job crew we have in office. As i said in the past this action was a campaign promise to the reformers ..The October raiins are on the way.
There will be no submarine service as in the past. 😛

chacha17
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chacha17

I am all for the rights of peple to gather and bitch about things, but other than a traffic jam this will be about as successful as the rally against the 47% tax hike….which ironically you could argue that without the tax hike the layoff numbers would be a ton higher!

Good times in the mile square!!!!

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

cha cha boggie woogie..If that is the case get yourself a musket and become a minute man or girl ..to defend your home and family..funny now but not when the chit hits the fan.The tax hike was your former mayor jerkey roberts whom marsh and lenz supported so get it together..How stupid can people be not to inquire why there was no tax raise in eight yrs?? slap me .As long as the breast fed corperate world got their holiday bonus money and perks.. :mrgreen: [quote comment=”197373″]I am all for the rights of peple to gather and bitch about things, but other than a traffic jam this will be about as successful as the rally against the 47% tax hike….which ironically you could argue that without the tax hike the layoff numbers would be a ton higher!Good times in the mile square!!!![/quote]

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