Hoboken Incident Action 2/4/2010
2/8/2010 Update:
Sorry for the “multiple story post” – didn’t think these stories would blow up the way they did… But here’s a good news update for the Hit & Run incident that was included here…
Hit and Run Driver Arrested by Hoboken Police
“Hoboken Police have made an arrest of a driver who struck a pedestrian, and fled the scene on Friday, February 5, 2010 at 235 River Street, right near the W Hotel entrance. The victim was a 44 year-old male resident of Ramsey, NJ. The victim sustained injuries requiring medical treatment at the Jersey City Medical Center.
Witnesses at the scene provided police with a description of the driver as well as the vehicle that fled and a license plate number. Police traced this information to a 2009 Nissan/Murano, color/gray to a person in North Brunswick, NJ. The subsequent police investigation was also aided by the utilization of video from surveillance cameras in the area that confirmed the witness’s statements to police. A BOLO was sent to the North Brunswick Police Department to attempt to locate the vehicle and driver who fled.
A short time later, North Brunswick PD did notify Hoboken Police that the vehicle was located, and had damage consistent with a recent accident. Detective Arturo Gonzalez then contacted the driver, who initially denied being in any accident or striking a pedestrian in Hoboken. A short time later the driver, identified as: Mario G. Barbato, Age 45 of North Brunswick, NJ appeared in the Detective Bureau and when confronted with the evidence, gave a full and voluntary video confession indicating he did strike the victim and fled the scene of the earlier accident. Mr. Barbato was arrested and charged with: 1) Knowingly Leaving the Scene of an Accident 2) Assault by Auto and 3) Endangering/Leaving an Injured Victim in addition to a motor vehicle summons for Leaving the Scene of an Accident by P/O Adam Colon.
Mr. Barbato is scheduled to make an initial appearance in court this week. According to Lieutenant Mark Competello, Detective Bureau Commander this is another instance where technology and assist from the public culminated in an arrest, “Anytime citizens provide police with this type of information, it adds another tool to aid police in making an apprehension or arrest of an individual, or in this case a vehicle.” The HPD is grateful for the assistance of these citizens, who surely aided the investigation and the swift apprehension and arrest of the actor.”
2/5/2010 Update:
Third dog present, no involvement with mauling
An update to last night’s Pit Bull mauling…
Neighbors living at Constitution Court gave Hoboken411 some additional information regarding the crazy scene last night. First of all, the Pit Bull “Giant” was owned by a tenant named “Hutch,” who is an Applied Housing employee. He had adopted this dog, believed to be in the neighborhood of about three years old within the last 12 months. His 26 year old girlfriend “Tash” (Natasha) was one of the victims that was injured. She had her own dog, a cute grey Terrier named “Gracie” (pictured below.) During the whole frenzy, the ASPCA was going to take her away too, but Paul Michael apparel shop owner graciously (no pun intended) took in the dog until it can return home. Apparently, Natasha’s mother is coming to Hoboken from her hometown in Pennsylvania.
The second Pit Bull (name unknown) was not a tenant of the apartment, but rather was visiting with a friend.
Details are a bit unclear as to exactly how the mayhem began, but area neighbors believe it was a “aligning of the planets” kind of situation, where drunken and slightly agitated humans, mixed with multiple dogs in the same apartment led to the unruly and bloody incident. Others told 411 that they felt the owners were unfit to care for these dogs.
In fact, if you followed Hoboken411′s Twitter Page, you would have seen that this same Pit Bull bit a roommate back on January 29th – so this incident came as no surprise to anyone.
Here’s a shot of the Gracie – who said “I had nothing to do with this incident – I just wanted to sleep!”
SEE MORE ABOUT THE PIT BULLS AND A SAD HOBOKEN FATALITY AFTER THE JUMP…
(Incident Action 2/4/2010, continued…)
More on the Pit Bull Mauling…
A Hoboken411 reader sent in this picture of “Giant” the Pit Bull that was shot and killed last night after mauling three people.
Video from Fox 5 News, too – glad to be of service guys!
2/4/2010:
Pit Bull bites and more…
Sometimes Hoboken can be very slow and peaceful, and at other times you’ll have civil service employees running all over the town. Tonight is one of those nights… (SEE COMMENTS FOR UPDATES ON CRAZY DOG-BITE INCIDENT…)
Probably another drunk moron from the W Hotel
About 15 minutes in the past, a hit and run – pedestrian struck was reported near the W Hotel at 3rd and River Streets.
The vehicle was reportedly driven by a “nice dressed white male with a red tie” who was driving a beige 2009 Nissan Murano from North Brunswick, NJ. Police didn’t find the car which fled the scene, and reported the tags over the NJ SPEN network.
The gentleman that was hit didn’t suffer fatal injuries, but officers reported he was “pretty banged up.” He was transported to Jersey City Medical Center (not HUMC where the Botch-Doc works). Hopefully he’s OK.
Scary situation at Marion Towers
About half an hour in the past – an “unconscious male – possible DOA – MOS member” (city employee) was reported at Marion Towers – 400 First Street, Apartment 12J.
According to public records, Andrew Amato, Sr. – a former Hoboken Councilman is listed at living at that address. When police arrived, they said he was in cardiac arrest, and they were performing CPR on the victim. Last I heard they were transporting the patient to HUMC. No further word on his condition.
Update: According to sources, the victim was former Hoboken Councilman Andrew Amato, Sr. and that he has passed away. Rest in peace.
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276 Responses to ** Hoboken Incident Action 2/4/2010 **
February 11th, 2010 |
and little mikey, I was simply pointing out the irony of the one little cry-baby who was attacked in the dog park because he didn’t know anything about dogs, suddenly becoming some sort of expert in the field of dog psycology. I love irony. keep up the good work. Anyway, I’ll go back to my job where I mop floors and hide salomi (the job sucks, but the money is alright and the benefits are pretty solid) and I’ll let you go back to whatever profound profession you have. Good talking to you, I love communicating with rational, level-headed people (i also love sarcasm).
In response to Michael who said:
The king d-bag of the 411 blog community is alive and well!!! I was beginning to think that you had finally done humanity a favor and killed yourself but unfortunately that isn’t the case. Isn’t it tiresome being so clearly miserable and lonely?
Anyway, seeing that you ARE still alive, it is apparent you still have a problem with reality and factual information (like the false portrayal of me “grabbing” a toy away from another dog). Unless you were hiding in a tree that day (or more likely under a rock), or you are in fact the owner of the dog that bit me, your interpretation of what happenned to me is meaningless. And your attempts at speculation are nothing short of idiotic. But we’ve been over this before so I’m sure you know this already.
Anyway, you can go back to mopping up public bathrooms and playing hide the salami with your buddies now. See ya’ numbnuts!
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February 11th, 2010 |
I’ve experienced the good and the bad with APBTs. I’ve experienced good and bad with other breeds to though.
Michael Vick turned his dogs into weapons and now his kids can’t get near ANY dogs because he’ll never be allowed to have a dog.
In response to King of Rock who said:
First Incident – Having seen my childhood friend, who now walks with a permanent limp, because a pit bull jumped the fence as we were riding bicycles and locked on his leg until the NYPD shot the dog on his leg has given me a first hand view of these animals.
Second Incident – I guess we can blame the owner (my father-in-law) for the way his rescued puppy pit bull, that he loved and nurtured, turned one day and decided to kill his neighbor’s dog for no apparent reason.
I guess idiots like Brady will never learn until they experience the viciousness of these animals. They are not pets, they are fighting weapons.
Personally, I have no problems with dog fights because you know what you are getting. Michael Vick would not let his kids near any of these dogs – do you know why? They are weapons.
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February 11th, 2010 |
michael – if it’s so ridiculous to say another breed would fill the void, then why did just that happen in the UK when they banned Pit Bulls? There are thousands of dog bites every year. Very few of those bites result in fatalities, but many do damage. If you get rid of pit bulls, do you think people who abuse dogs and train them to be dog fighters or “protectors” would just hang up their stun guns and move along, or do you think they might just pick another large breed to torture and train towards that goal? cmon man. who’s the one being ridiculous?
In response to Michael who said:
I’ll try to make this simple for you one more time…ugghh!!
Yes, ALL dogs are in some way or form are a “liability on a leash” if you will. Some breeds like pits are a larger liability because they GENERALLY have increased aggressive tendencies RELATIVE to other dog breeds. Got it?
It is all about the probability. Is it possible to have an aggressive Golden Retriever? Sure. But that would be a departure from the norm, where in the case of pit bulls, it IS the norm. See the difference?
Most Golden Retriever owners don’t need to worry about training their dog to NOT be agressive…most pit owners do but can’t/don’t want to handle the task. In essence it is an issue with both the breed AND the owner.
I don’t think there should be an absolute ban on pits but I do think there should be increased regulation. And to claim that some other breed would suddenly “fill the void” in terms of fatal dog attacks is the funniest and most ridiculous thing you’ve said yet.
Enjoy the rest of your day frolicking in the snow with all the pit bulls that reside on your magical street block in Fantasyland.
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February 11th, 2010 |
Hans – i think you make a good point. I don’t think it’s anything about not being able to find in another breed. There’s all sorts of traits out there. People like different breeds for different reasons. Energy, loyalty, size, etc. I think the PBT “reputation” is a prejudice because of the media attention given to the breed (sometimes even reports of bites are falsely attributed to pit bulls when it’s another breed altogether). There’s many of them throughout the country, and lots of dogs bite people. PBT are strong, specifically in the jaw, so if they bite a person, it’s definitely dangerous. But that doesn’t make them evil. Should we not have strong breeds because they could do more harm to us?
Dogs have all sorts of traits bred into them for different reasons over the decades and centuries. I know I’m sounding like a crazed PBT lover, defending them to the death. But that’s not me. I just don’t like the blame that is dumped onto the breed, when people have a lot of control over how dogs are.
Many dogs that are now reduced to house pets have all sorts of purposes. Swiss Mountain Dogs were bred to carry wagons. Collies herd. Labradors are great hunting companions and will retrieve a duck or fish without biting through the animal.
Most of what breeds were bred for is irrelevant now, but people need to understand the background so they can let the dog live out it’s instincts and work out energy.
Should we all have Labradors because they are a “gentle” breed? Should we just breed a perfectly “safe” dog for use as a house pet and that’s it? Maybe people should just be responsible.
In response to HansBrix who said:
Question for PBT defenders: of all the breeds available what is the justification for a breed with the PBT reputation? What need do they meet that can’t be found in another breed?
I get the fact that they are popular among ghetto thugs because they enhance the tough guy image, protect drug dealers, etc. For everyone else it seems like plenty of reasonable and arguably safer substitutes exist.
I’ve never owned dogs so I cannot fathom it. Hence the question.
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February 11th, 2010 |
ohsofedup – comparing to drunk drivers? there were 23 dog bite fatalities last year. 15 of them are attributed to pit bulls. there are many many thousands of pit bulls out there. you’re going to let the actions of 15 give characteristic to the entire population? what if we did that with humans? a woman was also mauled by her own two dogs – an austrialian shephard mix and a golden retriever mix.
70% of the attacks occurred on children under 11 (i can’t tell you how many kids walk up to my dog and thrust their hands in the dog’s face – why don’t parents tell their kids how to act around strange animals?).
8 of the fatal attacks occurred on children 1 yr old or younger. what breed dog do you think a 1 yr old can survive an attack from (a Pomeranian killed an infant a couple years ago).
in one house last year, a house with a pit bull and a jack russell terrier had a 6 week old infant attacked and killed. guess which dog attacked it?
it’s not the rule that pit bulls are killers, it’s the exception. 15 fatalities last year attributed to them. there should be thousands of them every year if the breed is so dangerous. why isn’t there?
In response to OhSoFedUp who said:
I just don’t understand why so many people are defending this breed. Sure, not every pit may be involved in a violent attack, but hey, not every drunk driver kills someone on the road. Enough do that society has decided it’s not worth the risk to allow them on the road.
Different breeds have been developed to enhance distinct charactoristics. For example, sheepdogs have instincts to heard, retrievers to retrieve, and pitbulls to fight. Of course there are always exceptions, but let’s stop the sugar coating and the excuses. Enough of them do pose enough of a threat that the risks outweigh anything else.
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February 11th, 2010 |
ohsofedup – comparing to drunk drivers? there were 23 dog bite fatalities last year. 15 of them are attributed to pit bulls. there are many many thousands of pit bulls out there. you’re going to let the actions of 15 give characteristic to the entire population? what if we did that with humans? a woman was also mauled by her own two dogs – an austrialian shephard mix and a golden retriever mix.
70% of the attacks occurred on children under 11 (i can’t tell you how many kids walk up to my dog and thrust their hands in the dog’s face – why don’t parents tell their kids how to act around strange animals?).
8 of the fatal attacks occurred on children 1 yr old or younger. what breed dog do you think a 1 yr old can survive an attack from (a Pomeranian killed an infant a couple years ago).
in one house last year, a house with a pit bull and a jack russell terrier had a 6 week old infant attacked and killed. guess which dog attacked it?
it’s not the rule that pit bulls are killers, it’s the exception. 15 fatalities last year attributed to them. there should be thousands of them every year if the breed is so dangerous. why isn’t there? and why are most of the fatalities children that are left unattended?
In response to OhSoFedUp who said:
I just don’t understand why so many people are defending this breed. Sure, not every pit may be involved in a violent attack, but hey, not every drunk driver kills someone on the road. Enough do that society has decided it’s not worth the risk to allow them on the road.
Different breeds have been developed to enhance distinct charactoristics. For example, sheepdogs have instincts to heard, retrievers to retrieve, and pitbulls to fight. Of course there are always exceptions, but let’s stop the sugar coating and the excuses. Enough of them do pose enough of a threat that the risks outweigh anything else.
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February 12th, 2010 |
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February 12th, 2010 |
Just pointing out that 23 dog bite fatalities in which 15 were pit bulls doesn’t seem like a lot but do you realize that is over 65% attributed to that breed? And I understand that various dogs are bred for different purposes but a herding instinct is not going to threaten my child or me while a trait bred into a dog to attack and/or fight will. I do think that the responsibility solely lies in the owner of the dog. If you are going to own a breed like that you better respect its traits and act accordingly around other dogs and the people that come in contact with your dog. I am sure they can be very sweet but if you are its owner you can never forget its potential as a weapon or deny their breeding. This is not a dog you leave tied up unattended in front of McDonalds. I love animals, but I am horrified by this whole situation, from the man that was punching the dog in the face, the very fact that these dogs were allowed in the building, to the living situation, 4 adults, 3 dogs in a two bedroom, and this was an employee?? I pay my rent, I signed a lease and I also signed off on respecting the rules of the Shipyard community. These people did not. I am in the building picking up packages often. The fact that this dog was roaming that lobby is unacceptable. I understand it was midnight but it could have been 6pm. I am also appalled that Applied hasn’t made a statement. They allowed this living situation and the fact is they put the residents at the Shipyard at risk. It’s unacceptable. One child entering that lobby would have been taken down in a heartbeat and there are 100′s of kids in the Shipyard.
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February 12th, 2010 |
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February 12th, 2010 |
The thing that gets me is that it sounds like (from what people are saying) that there were warning signs. That there had been an earlier emergency and that people had witness one of the dog owners abusing the dog. None of the people claiming to have seen the abuse answered my question about what they did about it.
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February 12th, 2010 |
Only fatalities? Let’s not whitewash the stats BRADYKP
Dog attacks send nearly 368,000 victims to hospital emergency departments per year (1,008 per day) according to the Centers for Disease Control.
Here is a long term study performed in the US & Canada from 1982-2006 with a breakdown by breed.
dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
According to this long term study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of dog attacks , 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings.
In response to bradykp who said:
ohsofedup – comparing to drunk drivers? there were 23 dog bite fatalities last year. 15 of them are attributed to pit bulls. there are many many thousands of pit bulls out there. you’re going to let the actions of 15 give characteristic to the entire population? what if we did that with humans? a woman was also mauled by her own two dogs – an austrialian shephard mix and a golden retriever mix.
70% of the attacks occurred on children under 11 (i can’t tell you how many kids walk up to my dog and thrust their hands in the dog’s face – why don’t parents tell their kids how to act around strange animals?).
8 of the fatal attacks occurred on children 1 yr old or younger. what breed dog do you think a 1 yr old can survive an attack from (a Pomeranian killed an infant a couple years ago).
in one house last year, a house with a pit bull and a jack russell terrier had a 6 week old infant attacked and killed. guess which dog attacked it?
it’s not the rule that pit bulls are killers, it’s the exception. 15 fatalities last year attributed to them. there should be thousands of them every year if the breed is so dangerous. why isn’t there? and why are most of the fatalities children that are left unattended?
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February 12th, 2010 |
Hudson makes a good point and I’ll take it a step further.
Unless we can keep PBTs out of the hands of the incompetent these attacks will continue apace.
The fact that PBTs are the dog of choice among the very people who are not good at managing their own lives, let alone dangerous animals, leads me to think that legislative action (restrictions or outright bans) is the only practical choice.
Some countries have already taken this step (australia among them I think).
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February 12th, 2010 |
I read that article about Vick’s pit bull. Would I allow my child’s face right up close to his, no way. I would never have complete trust. But I do agree, when you give a dog compassion it will respond in kind. I have heard Giant was not treated this way. I don’t know these people but have heard from people that do that the dog was mistreated. What did the guy think was going to happen when he punched the dog in the face? This is where the dog’s breed takes over, a smaller dog might react, a golden would probably do nothing but whimper, but you sure know a Pit bull won’t let it slide and the damage is gonna be be far worse if not fatal. It’s a sad situation and it has more to do with the owner but whatever the reason you can’t put people at risk.
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February 12th, 2010 |
You will never get through to people like bradykphippie. He implies the dog has equal rights to exist.
A pit bull is not a person.
A pit bull is a lethal weapon. One which can be uncontrollable. One which does not require any special license.
Can I legally carry my gun around town? Not unless it is in a case and it is not loaded. Why are these dogs allowed to be “walked” around town with just a leash?
This breed should be required to be muzzled at all times while in public. If the dog is in public without a muzzle, it should be put down immediately and the owner should be fined. The owner of a dog that attacks a person should be charged with the appropriate crime (assault with a weapon, attempted murder, etc).
In response to YipYap who said:
Only fatalities? Let’s not whitewash the stats BRADYKP
Dog attacks send nearly 368,000 victims to hospital emergency departments per year (1,008 per day) according to the Centers for Disease Control.
Here is a long term study performed in the US & Canada from 1982-2006 with a breakdown by breed.
dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
According to this long term study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of dog attacks , 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings.
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February 12th, 2010 |
What do breeding characteristics (what I have been discussing) have to do with knowing a dog’s psyche? Do you even know that the word irony means?
As far as my incident is concerned, I was attacked after picking up a tennis ball on the ground of a dog park which is something that people do hundreds of times a day in dog parks all around Hoboken. Again, you have no frame of reference because you’ve said you don’t go to dog parks (probably because you couldn’t possibly own anything but a lap dog and some gerbils…not that there’s anything wrong with that).
Contrary to your claims, my response to the attack was measured and benevolent particularly given the fact that the owner of the dog cowardly fled the scene. I didn’t want money, or retribution, or compassion…i was simply trying to use this site to reach out to her so I could get some info. about her dog’s health (like – could he be rabid? – for example).
However, given your obvious obsession with my incident (you didn’t even bother to weigh in on the most recent attacks), I have come to the conclusion that you are either a) the owner of the dog that bit me (which I think is unlikely) or b) you are a friend of hers (i think this is actually highly likely). Now that that police are involved (a measure I tried to avoid), you should tell her to continue walking her dog in the middle of the night. The city of Hoboken was not happy about the incident and they are going to be less so if they ever find her given recent events.
Just some advice…i think you should honestly seek some anger management therapy to help you with your pent up rage and frustration. It may not make you completely forget about your lack of success, happiness and intelligence, but at least it’s healthier than getting drunk every night. Anyway, good luck.
In response to Town Drunk who said:
and little mikey, I was simply pointing out the irony of the one little cry-baby who was attacked in the dog park because he didn’t know anything about dogs, suddenly becoming some sort of expert in the field of dog psycology. I love irony. keep up the good work. Anyway, I’ll go back to my job where I mop floors and hide salomi (the job sucks, but the money is alright and the benefits are pretty solid) and I’ll let you go back to whatever profound profession you have. Good talking to you, I love communicating with rational, level-headed people (i also love sarcasm).
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February 12th, 2010 |
Go USA…..
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