Political Nuggets 1/20/2010

1/20/2010:

Christie Sworn in as 55th NJ Governor

OK, Corzine’s out and Christie is in. But what will that truly mean for the residents of Hoboken, Hudson County and New Jersey? As you’ve seen countless times, “campaign promises” (which can often just be referred to as “marketing slogans”) can often just be dust in the wind, and voters just end up disgruntled and let down (does Charlie Brown and the football ring a bell?)

Will Hoboken benefit or suffer with Christie as Gov?

Chris Christie 55th New Jersey Governor

One less Democrat in office – and?

OK, the hype is over – the Massachusetts Republican Senate Candidate Scott Brown beats Democrat Martha Coakley in an “epic upset.”

If you’re a devout Democrat – do you care? Are you really that upset?

And if Republican, does this really mean that much? Other than the filibuster aspect? Or is the tide turning?

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MidnightRacer
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Party A overreaches. The populace votes them out and votes in Party B. Party B becomes like Party A and overreaches, so the populace votes them out and votes back in Party A. Party A thinks they are vindicated and issues mandates against the free choice of the people. Not knowing what else to do, the populace votes back in Party B if only to stop the far overreach of Party A, though not happy with Party B.

It can all be summed up in 5 minutes and 47 seconds by the following video – replacing the lyrics “we don’t need no education” with “we don’t need no eff’n mandates”, and “hey teachers” with “hey government”. We really don’t need no thought control. Leave us peeps alone! One less freedom is another brick in the wall… until the revolution begins:

Pink Floyd

And for the party which praises the tax lower JFK, and which claims to be the party of Jefferson, this is what Thomas Jefferson most importantly said:

“Every man wishes to pursue his occupation and to enjoy the fruits of his labours and the produce of his property in peace and safety, and with the least possible expense. When these things are accomplished, all the objects for which government ought to be established are answered.”

“That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.”

rich k
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rich k
Damn, Midnight, I love the last quote – I’d forgotten it completely. It needs to be parsed carefully, though, to fully understand what Jefferson was saying. The second part should really be first – his point was that when the people discipline themselves, they are the least reliant on a government to do things for them, and therefore give their government officials the least opportunity to take advantage of a sleeping populace. To paraphrase John Philpot Curran, “the price of liberty is eternal vigilance” or, to translate for the 21st century, “ya gotta watch the bastards.” In response to MidnightRacer who said: Party A overreaches. The populace votes them out and votes in Party B. Party B becomes like Party A and overreaches, so the populace votes them out and votes back in Party A. Party A thinks they are vindicated and issues mandates against the free choice of the people. Not knowing what else to do, the populace votes back in Party B if only to stop the far overreach of Party A, though not happy with Party B. It can all be summed up in 5 minutes and 47 seconds by the following video – replacing the lyrics “we don’t need no education” with “we don’t need no eff’n mandates”, and “hey teachers” with “hey government”. We really don’t need no thought control. Leave us peeps alone! One less freedom is another brick in the wall… until the revolution begins: Pink Floyd And for the party which praises… Read more »
emarche
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And I don’t think this was/is an indictment of Obama. If anything, BOTH parties could learn a very valuable lesson from this: our system, our country is broken. Neither party is capable of fixing the problem alone. The left thought that Obama’s election meant that they could slam through their solutions: they failed. The right would have done exactly the same thing. What they both fail to realize is that Americans are starting to wake up to the reality that the biggest challenges we face when it comes to fixing our country are the Democratic and the Republican parties and their respective egos.

kellyjoy
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kellyjoy

Very well said. Sadly, I doubt either party will get the message.

In response to emarche who said:
And I don’t think this was/is an indictment of Obama. If anything, BOTH parties could learn a very valuable lesson from this: our system, our country is broken. Neither party is capable of fixing the problem alone. The left thought that Obama’s election meant that they could slam through their solutions: they failed. The right would have done exactly the same thing. What they both fail to realize is that Americans are starting to wake up to the reality that the biggest challenges we face when it comes to fixing our country are the Democratic and the Republican parties and their respective egos.

MidnightRacer
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Maybe Obama can campaign for Pelosi, Reid, Frank and a few others.

emarche
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Please. Barney Frank is such a charmer, he doesn’t need any additional charisma! Aside from the floppy jowls, the garbled speech, the ridiculous dandruff, his complicity in the housing market disaster…I mean, really – what more do you want?

In response to MidnightRacer who said:
Maybe Obama can campaign for Pelosi, Reid, Frank and a few others.

rich k
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rich k

It reminds everyone that
a) no amount of money or early lead will make up for a lack of a strong grass roots commitment on the part of the candidate and their team. Most “upsets” I’ve seen were preceeded by the upsetter knocking on every door, taking no vote for granted, 5 am ’til midnight every day.
b) Charisma counts, and it counts both good and bad. It can be counter acted to a real extent by a) but in the absence of that, charisma, even empty otherwise against your best long-term interest charisma, will win over enough votes to win the day.
If Corzine had been able to address New Jersey the way an Obama, Kennedy, Reagan, or even a Bloomberg could, he might have been able to win the election. Remember, the same number of people voted Republican this past election as voted in Corzine’s first. The difference were the number of Democrats and independents who didn’t show up at the polls, who were there the firt time around.

Watchmaker
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Watchmaker

Funny how both points (a and b) apply phenomenally well to Beth Mason’s campaign at the last year’s mayoral election. 🙂

In response to rich k who said:
It reminds everyone that
a) no amount of money or early lead will make up for a lack of a strong grass roots commitment on the part of the candidate and their team. Most “upsets” I’ve seen were preceeded by the upsetter knocking on every door, taking no vote for granted, 5 am ’til midnight every day.
b) Charisma counts, and it counts both good and bad. It can be counter acted to a real extent by a) but in the absence of that, charisma, even empty otherwise against your best long-term interest charisma, will win over enough votes to win the day.
If Corzine had been able to address New Jersey the way an Obama, Kennedy, Reagan, or even a Bloomberg could, he might have been able to win the election. Remember, the same number of people voted Republican this past election as voted in Corzine’s first. The difference were the number of Democrats and independents who didn’t show up at the polls, who were there the firt time around.

jc5201
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jc5201
Great points Rich. People will say that Coakley losing is an indictment of Obama, and hopefully it refocuses him. But I think the loss in Mass was more about a person who didn’t shake hands, spelled Massachusetts wrong on her campaign literature, had only 19 campaign stops to Brown’s 66, went on vacation during the campaign, didn’t know who plays for the Red Sox, and completely took a 20 point lead in the polls for granted. Christie winning hurts us because there will be less state aid to urban cities, and who pays when aide to Jersey City and Union City is cut? But I think cuts to municipalities were coming regardless of who won. This economy and cleaning up the sins of the past hurts us much more. The good news is that Assemblyman Ramos being named vice chair of the appropriations committee should help Hoboken. In response to rich k who said: It reminds everyone that a) no amount of money or early lead will make up for a lack of a strong grass roots commitment on the part of the candidate and their team. Most “upsets” I’ve seen were preceeded by the upsetter knocking on every door, taking no vote for granted, 5 am ’til midnight every day. b) Charisma counts, and it counts both good and bad. It can be counter acted to a real extent by a) but in the absence of that, charisma, even empty otherwise against your best long-term interest charisma, will win… Read more »
realstuff
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realstuff

Will this change to Christie make a difference to our state’s huge budget deficit problem.? Will the change to Zimmer help solve Hoboken’s financial woes? Will the upcoming change in our Supt. of Schools make a visible difference in the progress of the Hoboken School district? In brief, it is the decisions that our leaders make that determines the type of change we need and the proper course to take. It is up to us to keep informed, become an active citizen and hold our elected officials accountable and repsonsible. In regard to our roles: “Indifference…is not only a sin, it is a punishment.” – Elie Wiesel, on a visit to the White House, April 12, 1999.

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