Chemtrail debate continues

Chemtrail vs. contrail debate continues in Hoboken

Clouds and Weather John Day ChemtrailsBelieve it or not, the chemtrail debate seems to be growing. Over the past year, the number of residents that email Hoboken411 has increased. Along with photos, etc.

But is the “chemtrail” argument even valid? Or just a conspiracy theory?

First – those suspicious of chemtrails argue that the difference between a valid “contrail” (condensation trail) that planes leave behind – and a “chemtrail” (chemicals sprayed by the evil government to harm us) is that the chemtrails stay behind, and contrails evaporate quickly.

Well, my research after reading Clouds and Weather” by John A. Day, says that the trails that are left behind are because of higher levels of humidity.

In other words, on a dry day they disappear fast, on a humid day – the linger behind, even creating clouds precipitation. (Note – people also talk about HAARP clouds – which are actually Billow altocumulus clouds…)

Arguments that chemtrails are REAL

For one, if it is actually true that some evil scientists are spraying chemicals (like aluminum or barium) into the atmosphere without public consent – that would far surpass the largest crime against humanity on planet earth. Worse than all war dictators, bombs and acts of terror combined. Which makes it a very far fetched argument, right?

However – there are many sites out there that claim that these chemtrails are indeed real, and they can supposedly prove it.

Chemtrails Planet created this diagram that supposedly proves the difference between condensation and covert spraying of God knows what:

jets spraying aerosols chemtrails

So what do you do now? Test the air yourself!

My advice to everyone that is honestly “worried” about these so-called chemtrails, finally do something about it.

There are apparently places you can send rain samples from our area here in Hoboken – and have them tested for illegal chemicals yourself!

On the website GeoEngineering Watch – they provide detailed instructions on HOW to prepare test samples for these chemicals like aluminum and barium. They even offer a place to send them to get tested.

So if you’re one of the worry-warts – I’d suggest putting your money where your worry is – and take action. Maybe we can put the debate to rest once and for all.

I’d be happy to publish any and all results you get back.

Chemtrail water test Hoboken NJ GeoEngineering Watch

Con Trails or Chem Trails?

5/24/2011 Update:

Time for another bump for the Chem Trail debate. Of course, this is just a beautiful evening photo taken recently in Hoboken – but it reminded me of the debate people have over whether these “trails” that spread across our horizon are harmful or not.

You can see more photos, video and links after the jump…

No doubt many are very concerned about Chem Trails

11/1/2010 Update:

About a year ago – Hoboken411 published a reader mail about the concerns with the trails left behind by various aircraft. Some folks believe it’s not natural – while others shot holes in it, labeling it a conspiracy theory.

But here’s what reader Brooklyn Bridget had to say about the “trails” left in the sky this past weekend:

“Did you notice all the fighter-type planes and chem trails in the sky this weekend? They were going up and down the Hudson since at least 9am. I thought it was due to the Yemen and other threats with the airports that we’ve been hearing about on the news.

I have a friend who lives a few towns over, who took a picture to the west that has a chem trail in it but also something else that looks like oil dripping out of a cloud. My friend put up pictures on flicker yesterday of different weird things in the sky — I haven’t seen those yet — she says flicker yanked them from the site without explanation.”

What in the world are they spraying?

Coincidentally – a documentary entitled “What in the World are they spraying?” was just released at the end of October – covering this exact same subject.

The film claims to offer proof and scientific data that suggests that those trails you see are not as innocent as you’re led to believe. You can purchase the DVD at Infowars.com – or if you’re the type that wants to see it on YouTube before you decide whether it’s worth owning – visit this link to see the movie in seven parts (link active as of this morning):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw&feature=related

Here’s a trailer from the film. You decide:

Readerpix: Contrails or Chem Trails?

11/16/2009:

Hoboken411 reader Vinny sent in some shots of Aircraft Condensation Trails (“Contrails”) left over the skies of Hoboken. Believe it or not, some folks believe that this is a way for the government to poison it’s population (i.e., “Chem Trails”).

In related news, Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez wants to mess around with clouds, too.

Hoboken411 Reader Gallery of the Day

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57 Comments on "Chemtrail debate continues"

HomeTeam
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HomeTeam

Talk of Chemtrails reminds me of the Dead Milkmen song “Stuart” :

HansBrix
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HansBrix

Meanwhile our lawmakers are conspiring with our plutocrats to transfer your wealth to their pockets and no one seems to notice or care. Yes chemtrails seem far fetched and the motive. Is murky but let’s dwell on that instead of the war our betters are waging on us.

escaped68
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ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT

Chem trails spotted in the skies over NY harbor extending down to ocean…Get out you aluminium lined hats and raincoats. We are being bombarded with orba rays.

timetes
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timetes

lol really i dont get this article blaming the government??? what is that…..why wouldnt they say its foreign terrorist group or something…..but the government???? if they write this stuff they should give the department and names …..

we all know something is wrong, ,many ill people with thyroid and lymphoma type problems and other health issues…….something is wrong but blaming the government is ridiculousness

i bet they all drink dunken donuts coffee…..only kidding….. [quote comment=”220604″]ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT Chem trails spotted in the skies over NY harbor extending down to ocean…Get out you aluminium lined hats and raincoats. We are being bombarded with orba rays.[/quote]

homeworld
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The same people that put the bombs in the World Trade Center are flying these Chemtrail planes. Jeff Boss told me he witnessed the NSA arrange it. [quote comment=”220606″]lol really i dont get this article blaming the government??? what is that…..why wouldnt they say its foreign terrorist group or something…..but the government???? if they write this stuff they should give the department and names …..we all know something is wrong, ,many ill people with thyroid and lymphoma type problems and other health issues…….something is wrong but blaming the government is ridiculousnessi bet they all drink dunken donuts coffee…..only kidding…..[/quote]

escaped68
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Are they doing anything to our water supply? [quote comment=”220612″]The same people that put the bombs in the World Trade Center are flying these Chemtrail planes. Jeff Boss told me he witnessed the NSA arrange it.[/quote]

YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken

Can you quote an expert with a real degree from a real university?

loveandwar6
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loveandwar6

you should focus all that negativity in a positive direction maybe then you’d actually accomplish something other than trolling the internet[quote comment=”220526″]Can you quote an expert with a real degree from a real university?[/quote]

YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken

Ever hear the advice ‘always check your sources’? “If your mother says she loves you, check it out” just sayin…[quote comment=”220531”]you should focus all that negativity in a positive direction maybe then you’d actually accomplish something other than trolling the internet[/quote]

joey maxim
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joey maxim

CL@Cazssy===== there contrails.. let all argue all they want .chitttttttttttttttttttttt[quote comment=”220526″]Can you quote an expert with a real degree from a real university?[/quote]

Exvitermini
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Exvitermini

Please do tell us about “Dr” Gwen Scott’s credentials and educational background as a “Dr”.

From her own website, “Please Note: Most states do not license Naturopathic Doctors, they are not allowed by law to diagnose or prescribe. However, they can educate with personal, observational, historical and scientific information.”

I bet she uses an aol email address too!

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