Hoboken “4-block Radius Syndrome”

Do You Have “4 Block Radius” syndrome in Hoboken?

How often, why, and how far do you venture out?

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Though my work gets me outside of my own neighborhood on a daily basis, I take note that I may be in the minority in that respect. For example: I have friends who live on the far southwestern fringe of town who rarely venture to Washington Street or the parks along the Hudson River; frequently my offers to meet up with friends at a watering hole across town are declined in favor of those spots that are around their own corners; and most people I know admit they eat most at places right down the street. This leads me to conjecture that most of us prefer to operate in our own neighborhood “microcosms,” and perhaps prefer not to venture into the territory even five or six blocks away.

If that is the case, there are a variety of explanations:

  • Laziness:(After a long day there is no time or energy to explore)
  • Risk:(Why walk eight blocks to watch the game when we’re satisfied enough with our sports bar, etc.?)
  • Economics:(Finances during this economic slump are keeping us all closer to home, period!)
  • Social Factors:(It’s nice to see familiar faces and frequent places where people know your name)

How far do you travel in Hoboken?

Assuming one or more of these factors may apply to each of us, the more thought-provoking questions may actually be: Do we ever venture outside of our neighborhood microcosms? And, if so, what is actually worth venturing across the Mile Square for, in your opinion?

23 Responses

  1. jc5201 says:

    I definitely suffer from the four block radius syndrome! When I lives on 12th & Washington, I rarely went down town. I’ve been on 1st for 6 years, and now I rarely go uptown.

    It could be laziness, but Hoboken has so much to offer that almost any 4 block radius has enough delis, bars, and dry cleaners to make it so we don’t have to travel too far.

  2. Evelyn says:

    I don’t think many people like admitting they’re lazy. I broke my dependency on my own 4 block radius recently by finding cheaper alternatives. Now in addition to getting a bit more exercise, I keep note of how much money I’m saving by inconveniencing myself. You’d be surprised to see how much it starts adding up, even if it’s just a dollar or two on beer or wine. If you need motivation, treat it like a christmas club, and use the extra money for something else.

    • kooky kat says:

      I am lazy, I will admit it. I work out 4-5 times a week, I rarely go out during the week, I get home close to 8:00 every night of the week and I don’t want to go up to the stupid Madison so I can stand around with a bunch of douchebags!

      I like my local, I like the bartenders, I like giving my business to someone I know and respect, and I like knowing that when I arrive early (7-8ish) I am going to be able to sit and have a drink and some conversation w/my SO that I have seen very little of the entire week. I personally don’t see anything wrong with that.

      It’s nice to get out of the neighborhood once in awhile, but the older I get, the comfort of being close to home is worth it’s weight in gold (or christmas club bonus $$$!!) In the end, that is probably the biggest motivator – AGE.

      In response to Evelyn who said:

      I don’t think many people like admitting they’re lazy. I broke my dependency on my own 4 block radius recently by finding cheaper alternatives. Now in addition to getting a bit more exercise, I keep note of how much money I’m saving by inconveniencing myself. You’d be surprised to see how much it starts adding up, even if it’s just a dollar or two on beer or wine. If you need motivation, treat it like a christmas club, and use the extra money for something else.

      • rebaki says:

        I totally agree with having places that feel like a second home. Its nice when i walk into our favorite breakfast place to feel like i am seeing an old friend and that warmth we are given is returned with our business. I just think if you have the time (and i know many people don’t) its good practice to get to know your town.

        In response to kooky kat who said:

        I am lazy, I will admit it. I work out 4-5 times a week, I rarely go out during the week, I get home close to 8:00 every night of the week and I don’t want to go up to the stupid Madison so I can stand around with a bunch of douchebags!

        I like my local, I like the bartenders, I like giving my business to someone I know and respect, and I like knowing that when I arrive early (7-8ish) I am going to be able to sit and have a drink and some conversation w/my SO that I have seen very little of the entire week. I personally don’t see anything wrong with that.

        It’s nice to get out of the neighborhood once in awhile, but the older I get, the comfort of being close to home is worth it’s weight in gold (or christmas club bonus $$$!!) In the end, that is probably the biggest motivator – AGE.

      • kooky kat says:

        I have lived here for 13-14 (?) years. I know the town pretty well, I WAS young once! I LEAVE my neighborhood to go to work and I walk my dog all around town on the weekend, although, that’s tougher and tougher the later morning it gets because you can’t get through town because of the stroller nazis.

        You know what the saddest part is? There’s nothing great enough in town anymore to MAKE me want to leave my neighborhood. Augustino’s and Anthony David’s are the only 2 things I can think of off the top of my head.

        In response to rebaki who said:

        I totally agree with having places that feel like a second home. Its nice when i walk into our favorite breakfast place to feel like i am seeing an old friend and that warmth we are given is returned with our business. I just think if you have the time (and i know many people don’t) its good practice to get to know your town.

      • Furey says:

        This is an excellent point. There’s really not many GREAT places to go to in Hoboken that make me want to venture outside my “zone”. Most of the restaurants in my area are below average, it’s sad. Thanks for the Taco Truck, it’s now a weekly dinner choice.

        In response to kooky kat who said:

        I have lived here for 13-14 (?) years. I know the town pretty well, I WAS young once! I LEAVE my neighborhood to go to work and I walk my dog all around town on the weekend, although, that’s tougher and tougher the later morning it gets because you can’t get through town because of the stroller nazis.

        You know what the saddest part is? There’s nothing great enough in town anymore to MAKE me want to leave my neighborhood. Augustino’s and Anthony David’s are the only 2 things I can think of off the top of my head.

  3. nojokin says:

    Sticking with a dry cleaner or a tailor that is close to home is good sense.

    Not venturing to other bars or restaurants, however, shows a profound lack of curiosity. Such people have little desire to learn anything else and react with rage and righteousness when someone challenges their predisposed beliefs, regarless of how inane or puerile.

  4. Furey says:

    I agree, I don’t venture past 6th street, now that I live on 1st and Willow. Going uptown (i.e. 14th street area) is foreign to me.

    I did, however, go to Turning Point last Saturday for the 2nd time. I was driving in my car to Seacacus and found parking right off 14th and Hudson, so I had brunch there.

  5. homeworld says:

    My first 6 years in Hoboken, I never really ventured west of Bloomfield Street. Not until moving west of there did I start frequently places beyond Bloomfield.

  6. rag246 says:

    I lived on 7th behind Grand, so my 4 blocks was pretty lame. Consequently I did not have this syndrome. I roamed…had to. I generally avoided the PATH bars after happy hour. Aside from that I’d go wherever everyone wanted to go.

  7. rebaki says:

    I have lived on 11th & Adams for 4 years and we are pretty good about venturing out. I am always interested in new restaurants, coffee places and consignment or vintage shops. I guess growing up in a suburb of Boston and being so use to going to other towns for good food or good music working with in a 1 mile radius does not seem difficult. I do agree with the other poster that it is a just a lack of curiosity in your own town. I love my morning walks weaving in and out of the streets to see what’s new.

  8. Stabone130 says:

    hehe, i lived on 12th & hudson for a bit — i met a girl at a bar who lived on Observer Highway. I remember thinking “Eh, I’m not interested in a long distance relationship.”

    • rebaki says:

      That is hillariou. “eh, i am not interested in a long distance relationship” Made my day.

      In response to Stabone130 who said:

      hehe, i lived on 12th & hudson for a bit — i met a girl at a bar who lived on Observer Highway. I remember thinking “Eh, I’m not interested in a long distance relationship.”

  9. homeworld says:

    The green overlay in the picture makes me feel like playing Sim City.

  10. Margaret says:

    I walk ONE Square Mile in any direction. Sometimes I take a long
    walk off a short pier! (that used to be an insult, now it is RECREATION)….walking is GOOD…cars are bad…buses are worse…
    I can get there faster walking….

  11. mcgato says:

    I kind of agree with kooky kat in #12 about having a real reason to leave your neighborhood. A guy I work with asked if I go to 340 Lounge (is that it’s name?) or any of those other places down on the river. I live at 14th and Washington. I said that by the time I got down there, I would have passed at least 20 places just as good.

    I’m happy with the choices in my neighborhood, but I’m not afraid to venture further out. I need to go to Satay some time to remember how good that is.

  12. elainetyger says:

    If you walk more than 4 blocks, you have to make sure you don’t eat or drink so much that it’s hard to walk back.

  13. mooshu says:

    I love leaving my 4th street comfort zone for places that are several blocks away, like Turning Point. Love to walk, unless the weather is real crap and I’ve had a long day.

    • pawzclawz says:

      I walk from The Path home to 13th & Garden everynight. I walked my tenant’s dog on 1st & Park on Saturday morning. Then on my way home. I stopped at The Turning Point for the very first time. I only got a cup of coffee to go. It is a great little place. The food looked awesome. I will make a point of breakfast or brunch there soon.

      In response to mooshu who said:

      I love leaving my 4th street comfort zone for places that are several blocks away, like Turning Point. Love to walk, unless the weather is real crap and I’ve had a long day.

      • mooshu says:

        Yeah. I find myself walking from one end of town to the other a couple of times a day. I walk dogs, too :). It always feels great when I come home afterward, but the last thing I want to do on, say, a Nor’Easter day like last Thursday is walk back up to City Bistro. Why, when I’m lucky enough to have a nice cluster of decent restaurants in my ‘hood.

        In response to pawzclawz who said:

        I walk from The Path home to 13th & Garden everynight. I walked my tenant’s dog on 1st & Park on Saturday morning. Then on my way home. I stopped at The Turning Point for the very first time. I only got a cup of coffee to go. It is a great little place. The food looked awesome. I will make a point of breakfast or brunch there soon.

  14. midtownauthentic says:

    i love leaving 5th st to go to path area or to uptown new fave City Bistro and Hudson Tavern. Beats drinking myself alone into a stupor

  15. oceanbloo says:

    I live uptown, and do get around town. I like the variety as much as I enjoy my local favorites (like Ganache).

    I do remember the first time I ventured into the Shipyard area (lived downtown at the time). It was actually a bit surprising – this is in Hoboken? – and that was well before Maxwell Place, the Sovereign, etc.

  16. Margaret says:

    Most of my days are busy here in Hoboken. When not I walk to path,
    or the new route to Jersey City, or Burlington, or anywhere here.
    It is not laziness, it is being busy, (with) family and friends!

    After work, dinner for family/friends visit who live here, or I visit them. Rarely get out of town except to the Mall (Newport)
    or Bergenline Avenue for shopping. NO CAR….bus it everywhere, but
    mostly walk.

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