QotD: Worried about the Swine Flu?

9/15/2009 Update:

Crazy talk, or real possibilities?

I stumbled across this video on YouTube – about what may happen this fall and winter regarding the H1N1 “Swine” flu. Not sure who this guy was, but the things he was saying didn’t make me feel too comfortable, if true. I mean forced vaccinations and being held against my will isn’t something I want to be part of whatsoever.

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9/2/2009:

All over the news

novel-h1n1-swine-flu-virusIf you been online – or watched the news on TV over the past month (or just plain alive for that matter) – you know one of the top stories often includes this impending Novel H1N1 Swine Flu hysteria. You just can’t miss it.

  • States like Massachusetts have imposed jail sentences and fines for refusing to take a vaccine!
  • NYC said that 10% of the population was infected with the virus this past spring.
  • And even little ‘ole Hoboken has set up a “task force” of individuals from various agencies to serve as point to manage any massive emergency situations.

Hysteria or real threat?

While most of these reports from government entities and news agencies talk about all these scary things (run for your lives!) – most leave out the fact that apparently this flu isn’t much different that the *regular* flu that kills up to half a million people a year – other than it affects a different group of people.

Personally – I’m lucky. I don’t work in an office, don’t have kids – and don’t go around touching people. If there happens to be some kind of massive deadly outbreak or unknown strain variant – I’ll just avoid groups of people entirely! That would mean staying away from bars and restaurants (all those mouths and hands touching stuff – yuck!) as well as any and all public transportation.

QotD: Are you scared of the big bad H1N1 Swine Flu?

When it comes to this Swine Flu news, I:

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  1. jman01 says:

    CNN, today, issued an interview with doctors on the Swine Flu who were scolding the media for blowing SF out of proportion. A good way to keep it in perspective:

    CNN: “One doctor told me a way to think about things that was helpful. He said “remove the term H1N1 from the equation.” If your child had regular flu, would you take him to the hospital? If the answer is no, then don’t take him/her to the hospital now.

    Yes, hearing between 30,000 and 90,000 could die from H1N1 is scary, but keep in mind — around 40,000 people die from the regular or seasonal flu every year. The numbers may not be that much different, yet there is not panic about the regular flu. As things look now, H1N1 is causing only mild to moderate illness, not the widespread deaths people are worried about.”

  2. HomeTeam says:

    It’s just to sell more vaccine. Hell, they almost NEVER get the the vaccine combo right in the yearly scam shot, why should we trust them now?

    Mother Earth has imposed some population control and I’m ok with it.

  3. mooshu says:

    Population control: check.

    My sister-in-law hardly ever had the flu in her entire life. Maybe a couple of times in 30 years. She decided to go for a flu vaccine last year… and was “rewarded” with the worst flu case. Her kids (my nieces) also got the vaccine and, as a result, became sick more frequently and worse than usual. She’s never doing it again.

    I’m not interested in having a flu vaccine. Hope it doesn’t become a rule around here. Extra sleep, TV, herbal teas and chicken soup have helped me heal from the flu in short amounts of time– that’s all I need…

  4. getz76 says:

    I am worried about the flu in general, swine or not. I have a lovely 8-month-old girl. She is the one I am worried about.

    Me, whatever. I usually catch something during the winter. I got the vaccine last year while the wife was pregnant, and I still got sick. Whatever.

  5. YipYap says:

    Gov estimates about 1 Million people walking around in the USA right now are infected.

    Clinical trials at a number of universities started with adults and the elderly on Aug. 7th. On Aug. 19th clinical trials began in children ages 6 months to 17 years. These trials are a two-dose vaccine. First-dose data from those trials should be available by late September, with second-dose data expected in late October.
    US CDC officials said in late July that the agency hoped to have 120 million doses of H1N1 vaccine available by October, but now they expect only about 45 Million doses to be available by mid-October because of manufacturing issues. Twenty million more doses should be available each week thereafter. Pregnant women, children ages 6 months to 4 years, and those ages 5 to 18 who have chronic medical conditions are among the groups prioritized to receive the H1N1 vaccine when it becomes available.
    If you are interested in being a Guinea Pig for your country go to this website and sign up there are a number of the clinical trials going on at universities around the country.

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=H1N1

  6. MidnightRacer says:

    How many people die from:

    1. The Swine flu

    2. The vaccine

  7. lilbruiser4 says:

    I’m a former Hoboken resident currently living in London, and I can say for sure it’s not the government propoganda to sell their health care. We have universal health care here already and I’d say the UK is even more worried about the H1N1 then in the US, and France is even crazier about it (they are actually quarantining visitors who may have the swine flu and handling them in HAZMAT suits).

    I agree it mostly just needs common sense and I’m not worried for myself but do worry for the elderly, young children and those with underlying health problems… I don’t think it’s much worse than the normal flu virus BUT just remember that the scientists and doctors don’t know yet if H1N1 which is not the same strain is a regular fly will mutate into something more deadly that they do not have a vaccine for. If you are offered a vaccine, it would be common sense to take it.

  8. strand tramp says:

    what the english and french choose to do is of little concern/consequence to the US. as for the swine flu brought upon humanity by the mexicans (rather than the chinese for a change) i would remind everyone that we saw this before in 1976. the only difference is that the internet allows more hype. now start googling and look at the reality of this flu and then move. oh, and good luck living in that 3rd world country. they should worry about their teeth as much as this “epidemic.”

  9. emarche says:

    Oh please. They’re scared of their own shadow over in the nanny state. And as far as their universal health care goes…yeah – they’ve got it, but if you want a vaccine you better line up now: if you want to get it in the next 5 years.

    Wash your hands, cover your mouth with your sleeve when you cough (or cough into the crook of your arm), and wash your hands again. Not too complicated. Then again, I did have one of my wonderful fellow bus passengers on the 126 cough directly on me last night. Classy.

  10. MidnightRacer says:

    emarche wrote: “Wash your hands, cover your mouth with your sleeve when you cough (or cough into the crook of your arm), and wash your hands again. Not too complicated. Then again, I did have one of my wonderful fellow bus passengers on the 126 cough directly on me last night. Classy.”

    That sucks. Last Friday on the way home, I sat in the back of the 126 and this 30’s woman begins coughing non stop, not covering her mouth, but coughing the whole ride. I moved to the front of the bus as a precaution – regardless of cold, flu, or whatever. I didn’t want her cooties.

    • oceanbloo says:

      Yeah, that does suck. Even preschoolers know how to cover their mouths when they cough. And if you’re that sick, don’t be a martyr at work, stay home. I used to have a boss who came in to work when he was ghastly ill – it got so bad that a bunch of admins in the office got together and told him to go home so that he wouldn’t infect the entire office.

      This post brought up a bad memory, though – last year on the 126 I had a coughing fit. I wasn’t sick – something weird just happened where my throat got totally dry and I could not stop coughing. It’s really hard to stifle coughing, by the way! I did it as quietly as I could and practically had my head buried in my own shoulder, but I’m sure it was annoying to people around me. Coughing can’t always be helped, but yeah, at least cover your mouth!

      In response to MidnightRacer who said:

      emarche wrote: “Wash your hands, cover your mouth with your sleeve when you cough (or cough into the crook of your arm), and wash your hands again. Not too complicated. Then again, I did have one of my wonderful fellow bus passengers on the 126 cough directly on me last night. Classy.”

      That sucks. Last Friday on the way home, I sat in the back of the 126 and this 30’s woman begins coughing non stop, not covering her mouth, but coughing the whole ride. I moved to the front of the bus as a precaution – regardless of cold, flu, or whatever. I didn’t want her cooties.

  11. hoboken411 says:

    A 20-year old Cornell University Student dies from complications from H1N1:

    http://www.cornell.edu/emergency/flu/

    It’s said 500 of the 20,000 students at the University have come down with symptoms in the last week.

    myfoxny.com/dpp/health/swine_flu/09...1_Cornell_Student_Dies_of_Swine_Flu

    “Wash your hands!”

  12. YipYap says:

    The student died just nine days after he went to the hospital because he was suffering from flu-like symptoms. According to the Medical Center, the Cornell sophomore suffered from an underlying medical condition, but due to a request from the family, did not say what the condition was.

    WHY NOT SAY?

  13. hoboken411 says:

    They didn’t say, because the “underlying condition” was probably “binge drinking.”

    • escaped68 says:

      Underlying condition isn’t that doctor speak for “we don’t know”?

      In response to hoboken411 who said:

      They didn’t say, because the “underlying condition” was probably “binge drinking.”

      • emarche says:

        No. It’s doctor speak for ‘something the family is embarrassed about for no logical reason’.

        In response to escaped68 who said:

        Underlying condition isn’t that doctor speak for “we don’t know”?

  14. HOB424 says:

    It’s the flu with a different name. Remember the 1976 fiasco.

  15. freewheelin says:

    F’gawd sake, 411, this joker is standing in front of a big sign that says No King But Jesus and you’re trusting him as a source that the government is going to implement forced vaccinations? Right, and Obama is personally going to break down your door to make sure you get it. Dawn Zimmer is going to hold you down while he does it too. Come on, you’re a smart guy, you can do better than this.

    Nonetheless, anyone would be a fool not to get a flu shot if there is a particularly strong strain in the air.

  16. jazzeru says:

    and that’s when i hit close tab.

    no king but jesus

    c’mon dude

  17. GetMeABeer says:

    I’d be in no rush to get the H1N1 vaccine right away, if ever. Odds are the first batch will make you sicker than the actual flu. My mother said she got the first round in 76′ and she was severely ill for weeks because of it.

    On a side note, some jerk coughed in my face yesterday on the PATH. I don’t know what’s wrong with people? Bozo’s like that give slobs a good name.

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