Taxi disputes happen daily in Hoboken!

NYC cabs to Hoboken – still taxi disputes well into 2013

Ripoffs and taxi disputes in Hoboken NJ from NYC manhattanTo this day – and almost every single day since Hoboken411 began tracking, Hoboken police respond to at least one “taxi dispute” which takes place between the driver of a NYC cab and his passenger(s).

Usually, these taxi disputes are caused by the fact that the fare suddenly realizes that they don’t feel like paying the agreed-to amount once they’ve arrived in Hoboken (because they’re too cheap, drunk, entitled or arrogant).

However, one Hoboken411 reader is noticing that NYC cabbies are starting to jack up the cost of a ride from Manhattan to Hoboken (especially on weekends) where fares are now upwards of $80 or more! That costs more than a ride to one of the local airports!

As you can read in previous revisions to this story after the break – there is still no real “standard fare” from NYC to Hoboken, and there really needs to be one to prevent the confusion, mis-communication and taxi disputes.

And I’ll say it again: I believe the fares to Hoboken from New York should be PRE-PAID to avoid such a hassle. I mean, you pay to get on the subway or bus, why not taxi cabs too? What is so difficult about this – and why has almost zero progress been made?

Should Hoboken fares from NYC be standardized?

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Hoboken Photo of the Day: NYC taxi zooming by

And I wanted to share this photo I recently took of a NYC cabbie driving south towards the PATH station from a building uptown.

You ever see those cheesy “stock” pictures they put in some of picture frames sold at stores? Well – this reminded me of one of them – hence today’s Hoboken Photo of the Day!

NYC Taxi Disputes in Hoboken NJ

Urge Bloomberg to make pre-paid fares to NJ a law

12/3/2009 Update:

Bumping this post from earlier in the year – as I still hear of (and witness) many “Taxi Disputes” each week in Hoboken, seemingly every single day. And more often than not – it’s a NYC cab and some kind of drunk (or cheap) passenger.

To eliminate the unnecessary disputes, as well as free our Hoboken Police Department to handle more serious local crimes and incidents – our city administration should immediately engage NYC’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg to make any fares from the city into Hoboken a pre-paid trip. Pretty simple, eh?

Similar to the way former Councilman at-large Ruben Ramos fought to try and lower fares to Hoboken, someone from City Hall should step up to the plate here too. But they’re too busy eating at the Coach House Diner in North Bergen or jockeying for their next political seat. Oh well, just an idea…

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Are taxi riders that dumb, or is it alcohol related?

2/24/2009:

I highly doubt anyone listens to the Hoboken411 Live Police and Fire Action Channel as much as I do (even while I’m sleeping – disgusting!) – but one incident has occurred often enough to inspire this very post: “Taxi Disturbances.”

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Is it that difficult?

My estimate is about 10-12 calls come in each week for some kind of taxi dispute. While I don’t get to hear the entire details for each call – it’s usually a fare dispute. And my guess is that most of the drivers are probably from NYC, but I could be wrong, since the “Taxi Rules” sign was a bit outdated downtown.

But what causes these disputes?

  • One theory is that the riders are more concerned with getting home than paying attention to what the ride will cost them – and when they get dropped off and realize that they’re $40+ poorer, they throw a hissy-fit. Many times the dispute is resolved when the passenger goes to an ATM to settle the debt (after police involvement).
  • Conversely, perhaps the driver doesn’t clearly state what the fare will be, and ends up being more than they originally stated.
  • I’ve read here on Hoboken411 – that some riders get upset when they “ride share” here in town, and the driver goes way out of the way, and ends up dropping one particular person off last.

I believe the fare dispute could be prevented if NYC taxi’s were able to demand fare payment upfront. But I’m sure there’s some law against that.

Have you ever witnessed one? Been part of one? Are any of the drivers at fault for misleading the customer? Or are the customers usually drunk, poor and stupid?

64 Responses

  1. pawzclawz says:

    I always thought there was a flat rate from the city to New Jersey and vice/versa. I always thought it was double the meter + tolls. I stand corrected. I remember a couple of years ago. It was a Saturday night into Sunday morning. I went to the theatre. It was a four hour show and then out to a late dinner. It was 4am on a Sunday morning. I was trying to get a taxi from The Port Authority to 32nd & 6th. I wanted to take the Path home. It was virtually impossible. Every cab driver was only willing to come to New Jersey. I finally found one to take me to 32nd & 6th to pick up Path.

  2. homeworld says:

    I find it ridiculous that you can get to from LaGuadia to Hoboken for $47, but from Manhattan to Hoboken they want to charge you as much as $60.

    • mooshu says:

      And it’s not like we’re talking a drive from Washington Heights to Hoboken.

      I agree.

      In response to homeworld who said:

      I find it ridiculous that you can get to from LaGuadia to Hoboken for $47, but from Manhattan to Hoboken they want to charge you as much as $60.

      • homeworld says:

        You can get from Manhattan to Staten Island for less money than Hoboken.

        In response to mooshu who said:

        And it’s not like we’re talking a drive from Washington Heights to Hoboken.

        I agree.

  3. hbkn_resident says:

    speaking of taxis….anyone experience the “new” taxi stand rules downtown? talk about mayhem….!

  4. midtownauthentic says:

    I was looking a the picture above and it looks like the guy was performing as a mime for the police and the taxi guy just had to watch? Maybe he is showing his hands and saying “Look, I washed for supper”?

  5. NickAdams says:

    I used to offer double the meter (from the tunnel entrance…why should I pay double from say 50th street to 34th?) plus the toll.

    Most of the time it was no problem, but I found it was a gauge of the economy. If times were not so good, never a problem, when times were good, cabs got greedier. The double the meter thing makes up for the empty return trip. Then I noticed they were asking these outrageous prices- $50- and I just said the hell with it, most of the them now, I take the PATH. At least it’s a good floor show while you’re waiting for the train. ( Which while on the subject, they should run more trains! anyone been to the pathsuks website?)

    I always thought a jitney would make out good too.

  6. midtownauthentic says:

    Hailing a town car is usually less, i got a ride back from City Hall for $40 w toll. With companies cutting corners and putting a freeze on regular car use, the town cars are just like yellow hacks these days, owner operators. They often offer a better fare as their corporate clients are fewer these days.

  7. plywood says:

    Nick Adams said: “I used to offer double the meter (from the tunnel entrance…why should I pay double from say 50th street to 34th?) plus the toll.”

    Yes, I used to change cabs at Port Authority when coming from uptown for this very reason. Never had much luck explaining this concept to the hack drivers.

  8. midtownauthentic says:

    they have that sky tram that goes from 59th st to Roosevelt Island, they should make them for Hoboken to 34th St. Disney has it too and it works well for getting across the park easier. I think 6 flags has it too. Or better yet make a pedestrian tunnel from here to the city. Walk bike blade. I’m sure the stroller moms will appreciate it as well :)

    • plywood says:

      That’s a nice idea but I’ll buy you a cigar if they build another bridge or tunnel between NY and NJ in our lifetime. The Tappan Zee Bridge had a 50 year projected life-span when it was built. 50 years came and went as of a few years ago and yet it remains open and there still is no replacement plan in place. Yet money is found for silly projects like Pier C. Makes one wonder where the wheels came off the wagon.

      In response to midtownauthentic who said:

      they have that sky tram that goes from 59th st to Roosevelt Island, they should make them for Hoboken to 34th St. Disney has it too and it works well for getting across the park easier. I think 6 flags has it too. Or better yet make a pedestrian tunnel from here to the city. Walk bike blade. I’m sure the stroller moms will appreciate it as well :)

    • mooshu says:

      Would make for more opportunities for some stroller moms to pretty much attack pedestrians. But I still admire your vision. I’m all for walking everywhere if I could…

      Those sky trams are as scary as Disney.

      In response to midtownauthentic who said:

      they have that sky tram that goes from 59th st to Roosevelt Island, they should make them for Hoboken to 34th St. Disney has it too and it works well for getting across the park easier. I think 6 flags has it too. Or better yet make a pedestrian tunnel from here to the city. Walk bike blade. I’m sure the stroller moms will appreciate it as well :)

  9. BklynHobo says:

    $80! If you pay $80 I have a bridge to sell ya. I take a taxi at least 1 time a week and never pay more than $45. It would be nice if there was a set rate though, as long as it’s not more $45-50.

  10. chom89 says:

    I have heard $65 is the average cab fee from NYC to Hoboken which includes the tunnel fee and tip. But just last week I got back to my apartment in Hoboken for only $30 total. I believe there should be a set rate so you know what you’re getting into before jumping in a cab.

  11. ntableman says:

    I have been trying to find out which politicians to talk to about this for years and years. I finally found out that one of my most likely ones would be in the Port Authority as they have jurisdiction over transportation issue between NJ and NY.

    I then found a Director (maybe Exec. Director) who pretty much laughed at my when I tried to bring it up. It was at that point I realized just how useless the PA was to solving any problem for the people they rake over the coals for tolls and fares. I wish I had the time to figure out how to run for some office to shake things up over there.

    The problem here seems to be that no one really cares about transportation issues between NJ and NY. Take that stadium they wanted to make on the west side. There was almost nothing in the plan to upgrade tunnels, trains, etc…and it was as if all of a sudden if those teams moved to Hell’s Kitchen the NJ fans would stop going.

    I have often thought that this area needs a version of the Greater London Authority with a cleared admission that the metro area needs regional planning.

    • whineanddineinhob says:

      The Port Authority has no say in how taxi cabs charge fares interstate. The only control they have is making sure these cabs pay tolls, and observing laws when using their bridges and tunnels. All complaints and questions regarding NYC taxi’s should be sent to the Taxi and Limousine Commission in NYC.[quote comment=”215216″]I have been trying to find out which politicians to talk to about this for years and years. I finally found out that one of my most likely ones would be in the Port Authority as they have jurisdiction over transportation issue between NJ and NY.I then found a Director (maybe Exec. Director) who pretty much laughed at my when I tried to bring it up. It was at that point I realized just how useless the PA was to solving any problem for the people they rake over the coals for tolls and fares. I wish I had the time to figure out how to run for some office to shake things up over there.The problem here seems to be that no one really cares about transportation issues between NJ and NY. Take that stadium they wanted to make on the west side. There was almost nothing in the plan to upgrade tunnels, trains, etc…and it was as if all of a sudden if those teams moved to Hell’s Kitchen the NJ fans would stop going.I have often thought that this area needs a version of the Greater London Authority with a cleared admission that the metro area needs regional planning.[/quote]

  12. wfs says:

    Sounds like we need an android app – that will contact/book a black-cab, as opposed to hailing a taxi.

    My record, time wise from the village to Hoboken, is 15 – 85 minutes. (Holland tunnel closed for maintenance, so had to take the Lincoln tunnel). Price range – $15 double the toll at the half way point of the tunnel, to $60.

    I eventually stopped taking taxis because of the hastle. I’d always agree a ‘tip & tolls’ included price, then at the Hoboken end, the taxi drivers started demanding a tip & tolls.

    • curious says:

      UBER! It’s awesome[quote comment=”215229″]Sounds like we need an android app – that will contact/book a black-cab, as opposed to hailing a taxi.My record, time wise from the village to Hoboken, is 15 – 85 minutes. (Holland tunnel closed for maintenance, so had to take the Lincoln tunnel). Price range – $15 double the toll at the half way point of the tunnel, to $60.I eventually stopped taking taxis because of the hastle. I’d always agree a ‘tip & tolls’ included price, then at the Hoboken end, the taxi drivers started demanding a tip & tolls.[/quote]

  13. BklynHobo says:

    I only use ÜBER when taking a taxi from the city. No haggling, nice car, professional driver, and no cash. From Hell’s Kitchen to uptown Hobo it cost $52 including toll, tip, everything.

  14. homeworld says:

    It’s cheaper to take a taxi from NYC to Newark Airport and then say “Nevermind” and get out as soon as you get through the tunnel and then take a local taxi home.

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