Pedestrian struck 1st & Hudson

8/25/2008:

Calls over the Live Hoboken Police & Fire scanner for struck pedestrians are happening at such an alarming rate, I almost don’t flinch anymore. This one a few minutes ago near 1st and Hudson Streets.

And lately, as I observe drivers and pedestrians more closely, I’m beginning to think that more often than not, it’s the pedestrian’s fault for bombarding the streets like they’re invincible.

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elainetyger
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elainetyger

What EZspeak means is that whether the car on the avenue or on the numbered street has the right of way changes at every corner. eg If you drive west on 10th from Washington, you have the right of way at Bloomfield and Garden, and then have to stop at Park. If you drive down Willow Avenue, a county road, then you have the right of way (or a traffic light) at every street except 9th street, even though iirc 9th has the stop sign at all its other intersections.

Sometimes the stop signs are hidden until you get to the corner, because of parked cars/trucks. So if you don’t know the corner, you have to stop at every one. It’s really like nowhere else I’ve driven; usually the county roads have the right of way (or a 4way stop or a light) at every crossing.

bradykp
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bradykp

[quote comment=”102698″]I live in Weehawken and used to avoid Hoboken because of parking shortages. This summer I’ve been driving down once a week to pick up fresh produce from our wonderful CSA, Catalpa Ridge Farm, on Willow Ave.

Two things have struck me: First, the road rules are unclear. The right of way can change at every intersection. Relying merely on stop and yield signs in an area that has no predictable cues for drivers and is loaded with pedestrians has had serious consequences. As a safe driver I want to comply with the rules but I have to really work at detecting them.

The second issue is the indifference of some pedestrians. I can never predict who will respect the confluence of vehicles and humans, and who will dismiss the existence of those around them.

The solution must be two-fold; make the rules of the road more visible, and make pedestrians more respectful of drivers. Scofflaws should be given tickets to help raise their awareness.[/quote]

i’m not sure i understand what you mean by the right of way changes at every intersection? the law in Hoboken (or it might be NJ) is that the pedestrians have the right of way in the crosswalk. you’re supposed to yield to peds at intersections that don’t have stop signs.

this is the rule of the road, if you’re driving a vehicle on the road, it’s assumed that you know the rules of the road.

as for pedestrian indifference, i agree.

EZspeak
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EZspeak

I live in Weehawken and used to avoid Hoboken because of parking shortages. This summer I’ve been driving down once a week to pick up fresh produce from our wonderful CSA, Catalpa Ridge Farm, on Willow Ave.

Two things have struck me: First, the road rules are unclear. The right of way can change at every intersection. Relying merely on stop and yield signs in an area that has no predictable cues for drivers and is loaded with pedestrians has had serious consequences. As a safe driver I want to comply with the rules but I have to really work at detecting them.

The second issue is the indifference of some pedestrians. I can never predict who will respect the confluence of vehicles and humans, and who will dismiss the existence of those around them.

The solution must be two-fold; make the rules of the road more visible, and make pedestrians more respectful of drivers. Scofflaws should be given tickets to help raise their awareness.

bradykp
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bradykp

i never said drivers aren’t lazy, but pedestrians in this town are hugely inconsiderate, and when a few of them end up getting hit, i know it’s legally the driver’s fault, but I often don’t have the ability to muster up any sympathy with what I witness in this town as a driver and a pedestrian.

you have to realize, I’m a pedestrian 95% of the time. I don’t drive anywhere except when I drive to a client in NJ or out of the area, or I head to PA to visit family.

my wife drives to kearney, so she leaves hoboken right away since we live in the southwest to begin with.

i bet you’d be surprised to hear me say that when I’m biking around town, I get more respect from people in cars than I do from pedestrians.

granted, that doesn’t amount to much, but at least cars will wait when they do see me. pedestrians see me and cross anyways.

CreativeAngel
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CreativeAngel

[quote comment=”101626″][quote comment=”101555″]To be specific, Bar Harbor, Maine is one of thoese cities. It’s not as chock-full of bars, though.

Bottom line: if, as a driver, you slow down for cute deer, then slow down as you approach a corner so that, say, a drunk Hobokenite doesn’t get run over. Pedestrians do stupid things, but unless they are armored like Rambo while crossing the street, that doesn’t grant drivers a power-trip.[/quote]

so a city with the population of 4,800 as of 2000 and 70 square miles is similar to hoboken? interesting. i thought 40,000 in 1 square mile was tight, i’d hate to see how we’d handle 10% of our population with 70 times the space! must be tough driving there.[/quote]

Well, to say the least, Bar Harbor (although not as populated as Hoboken) has polite drivers.

:: Gives Bradykp a tissue :: I hope that you’ll get over my error.

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