Starbucks, Schmarbucks

4/25/2008 Update:

Judging by the graphics on the MetroStop website, perhaps the fact that I was disputing the rumor was wrong?

Or do they just “throw in” businesses to lure customers in? Does anyone have any inside information to how such renderings become reality? Are there legal implications for showing a branded Starbucks location in an artists rendition if it’s not going to happen?

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4/10/2008:

hoboken-more-starbucks-rumored-april-2008.gifFar from “breaking news,” but a few folks emailed Hoboken411 about some fruity rumors going around that one (maybe two) more Starbucks are coming to Hoboken…

As I mentioned in a previous post today about “chain” stores ruining the city street-scape, this would just be another nail in the coffin for local businesses.

The rumors indicate that one may be coming to 4th and Washington Streets, and another at “90 Congress” (which is in Jersey City Heights, actually). The rumor said that it may be coming to the Metrostop building near the 9th St. Light Rail, but an Amelia’s Bistro is slated to go there, the last I heard. Unless the recent Real Estate problems cause them to back out…

Honestly, I’ve never like their over-priced low-quality coffee, and could care less one way or another. It’d be nice to see some interesting new businesses once and a while.

Now that you’re done reading this, file under: “Big Whoop.”

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61 Comments on "Starbucks, Schmarbucks"


bradykp
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bradykp
8 years 4 months ago

[quote comment=”79806″]My guess is you have no familiarity whatsoever with Consumer Reports, and the rigerously scientific approach they preach.[/quote]

what’s wrong with CR’s approach? they was just a great article about them in either Money Magazine or Wired. about how they test the products. I’ve relied on them, coupled with other research, for a lot of my purchases.

bradykp
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bradykp
8 years 4 months ago

[quote comment=”79790″][quote comment=”79774″][quote comment=”79714″]I’m not exactly sure where Consumer Reports gets off telling me whose coffee I should like- but I have to call a huge BS on McDonalds coffee being better than Starbucks. I know everyone loves to hate Starbucks joe- but like Bauhaus says- its just not an American style coffee. Which is fine by me. I find McDonalds coffee to be like pretty good airline coffee- standard coffee flavour, not bitter and yet also no intensity whatsoever. Ditto DnD. There are a lot of reasons to crap on Starbucks- those absurd $5 milkshakes people call espresso drinks, but their standard coffee blows the doors off McDonalds inoffensive but staid joe.[/quote]

Here you go:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/29/102949.shtml

I don’t drink either BTW so not trying defend MickyD.[/quote]

What do you mean “here you go?” At no point did I doubt the veracity of the claim that Consumer Reports told people which coffee they should prefer- its just that I utterly reject an validity contained theirin. CR telling me which car has the fewest problems is helpful, them telling me which coffee or beer I like better is asinine.[/quote]

they aren’t telling you which one YOU like, they are telling you which one professional coffee tasters liked. it’s an evaluation, just like with wine. you don’t HAVE TO like the same coffee, but it helps people make decisions. it’s no different then them rating vacuum cleaners, PCs, navigation units, etc. they all have their own “features”, and they report on that.

bradykp
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bradykp
8 years 4 months ago
[quote comment=”79728″]They call it cafe Americano for a reason. It’s delicious espresso with a bunch of hot water added to it. I’ve been looking this week for a good grinder and espresso machine, http://www.coffeegeek.com has loads of reviews on the best of the best in all things coffee. Get a burr mill grinder, (yes a grinder makes a difference) and a decent espresso or drip machine, or a press. Those stove-top espresso pots aren’t bad either. You could spend a lot on one if it’s Italian and you buy it from Sur La Table, or you can get one at almost any Latin Bodega for a lot less. I made the mistake of getting one of those Cuisineart combo grider/coffee pots. IT SUCKS. Too many damned parts to wash, and it’s a blade grinder, which makes coffee taste crappy.[/quote] yeah, the combos are a PITA. i have a separate grinder from my coffee maker. i’m not a big fan of the stove top espresso makers, the gaskets don’t always work right, and they’re a bit clumsy sometimes. unfortunately, good espresso machines are just so darn expensive![quote comment=”79730″][quote comment=”79724″][quote comment=”79716″]The people who hate Starbucks coffee (not their sugary special drinks) are generally speaking the people who think you can get good coffee in a diner. You can not. Its not possible. Standard American style coffee really sucks. Buy some people grew up on watery American coffee and their paradigm will never change- and there is nothing wrong with that. But that… Read more »
bradykp
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bradykp
8 years 4 months ago

[quote comment=”79728″]They call it cafe Americano for a reason. It’s delicious espresso with a bunch of hot water added to it.

I’ve been looking this week for a good grinder and espresso machine, http://www.coffeegeek.com has loads of reviews on the best of the best in all things coffee.

Get a burr mill grinder, (yes a grinder makes a difference) and a decent espresso or drip machine, or a press. Those stove-top espresso pots aren’t bad either. You could spend a lot on one if it’s Italian and you buy it from Sur La Table, or you can get one at almost any Latin Bodega for a lot less.

I made the mistake of getting one of those Cuisineart combo grider/coffee pots. IT SUCKS. Too many damned parts to wash, and it’s a blade grinder, which makes coffee taste crappy.[/quote]

yeah, the combos are a PITA. i have a separate grinder from my coffee maker. i’m not a big fan of the stove top espresso makers, the gaskets don’t always work right, and they’re a bit clumsy sometimes. unfortunately, good espresso machines are just so darn expensive!

bradykp
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bradykp
8 years 4 months ago
[quote comment=”79714″]I’m not exactly sure where Consumer Reports gets off telling me whose coffee I should like- but I have to call a huge BS on McDonalds coffee being better than Starbucks. I know everyone loves to hate Starbucks joe- but like Bauhaus says- its just not an American style coffee. Which is fine by me. I find McDonalds coffee to be like pretty good airline coffee- standard coffee flavour, not bitter and yet also no intensity whatsoever. Ditto DnD. There are a lot of reasons to crap on Starbucks- those absurd $5 milkshakes people call espresso drinks, but their standard coffee blows the doors off McDonalds inoffensive but staid joe.[/quote] i don’t love mcdonald’s coffee, but i like it a lot better than starbucks. starbucks coffee is burnt, the beans just don’t have any flavor to them at all. this is coming from someone who’s favorite coffee is Hawaiian kona coffee made in a french press….so i like strong coffee. coffee is a personal choice though, so there’s no reason to ridicule someone for liking or not liking a coffee. the consumer reports was a study that rated based on professional review, and consumer review, and mcdonald’s had higher scores than starbucks. i also like dunkin donuts better than both, but i like it more when i buy the beans and make it at home than when i buy it in dnd [quote comment=”79716″]The people who hate Starbucks coffee (not their sugary special drinks) are generally speaking the people… Read more »
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