Uber Circle Jerk

Uber killing traditional cabs, everyone whines

You see this “memo” floating around Hoboken? It appears the Hoboken taxi & limousine companies are “on the ropes,” and have pumped out this propaganda piece to help garner support for themselves. It’s wrong on so many parts (which we’ve already mentioned). But let’s look again at how we see this whole debacle:

Point 1: “Phone app transportation services are illegal and unsafe.” Ooh. Scary!
Our take: It’s taking business away from us. We’ll “hide” behind laws which were stupid to begin with (or – we typically hate the city and their stupid laws, but we “need” them to help us in this fight.) Additionally, have you seen the death traps most taxis in Hoboken are? Screw all of them – and walk.

Point 2: People who use this service are completely unaware of how “risky” it is to use Uber. We pay through the nose for insurance. Wah Wah.
Our take: How many of you (either for or against) see who the real enemy is? It’s not taxis or independent contractors. It’s the fucking local governments and insurance companies! Get the hell out of our way!

Point 3: Hybrid cars were forced on the taxi industry. Uber doesn’t “comply.” They pollute. Wah wah.
Our take: Who in God’s name cares? That whole polluting thing is bogus to begin with. What is this, Communist China? “Unauthorized vehicles?” I thought America was a free country!

No one should get distracted by this sideshow between taxi drivers and Uber. Instead, you should fight to ABOLISH all commissions that “regulate” the individual transportation industry. That alone is your problem.

Bullshit taxi memo hoboken NJ

Uber Circle Jerk (look at the big picture)

3/25/2015 Update:

The “taxi” service called Uber is a very contentious subject with more than just two sides to the debate. Most of you know what’s going on at the moment:

  • Uber is an app-based taxi service that lots of smartphone users love (it’s “hip,” cheaper and so on).
  • “Traditional” taxi drivers hate it because it’s hurting their business.
  • The government wants to meddle (i.e., for control or revenue).
  • Insurance companies also have a stake (higher premiums, all sorts of stipulations, liability).
  • Uber drivers (“contractors”) are starting to despise Uber because the earning potential is not what was promised (especially with per mile rates dropping).

In New Jersey, there is a piece of legislature (Bill A3765) which, if approved, will impose strict amendments that Uber says will “drive them out of New Jersey.”

Uber Circle Jerk Hoboken NJ Bill A3765

Do you see what all of this really means?

They have all of you exactly where they want you to be. Arguing about this low-hanging fruit, regulations, taxes, laws, penalties, etc. But all of this can easily go away if some simplification took place.

  • Why do insurance companies have to get involved? Why do they care whether you’re giving someone a ride for money or just driving to the store to buy groceries? You pay for coverage – and that’s it.
  • All “riders” of Uber, or any other form of transportation should fall under the “at your own risk” category. Accidents happen. Why does everyone expect “coverage” for what boils down to “living life?” You wouldn’t walk through the ghetto with 100-dollar bills taped to your body, can’t people just use their own judgment? And accept any potential damage? Those are the “penalties” you pay for wanting to use modern forms of transportation instead of walking.
  • And why does the government need to be involved in what amounts to a personal contract between two people? Get the fuck out of the way and let us conduct business without all this meddling! They’re incompetent, and only fund themselves and their (corrupt, backroom-dealing) friends. Wrong on all counts.

Sure, Uber was one of the “first to market” with some kind of application that streamlines connecting a service with paying customers. But instead of complicating simple commerce, we have a cluster-fuck of people and agencies involved.

THAT is the problem with Uber & practically any other large industry where cash changes hands.

We can all argue this or that – but until the unnecessary “chefs” are kicked out of the kitchen for good – this problem will only get worse and worse.

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11 Comments on "Uber Circle Jerk"

RealtorJon
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RealtorJon

Though this seems to be a pro uber article, I’d still like to refute the last bullet point in this article…”Uber drivers (“contractors”) are starting to despise Uber because the earning potential is not what was promised (especially with per mile rates dropping).” I use uber a good amount and I’ve never had a driver who didn’t love working for them, besides the threat of being harassed and ticketed by police in Hoboken.

BklynHobo
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Totally agree. I take Uber a lot, within Hoboken, from NYC to Hoboken, and to Newark, as well as in other cities, and I talk to the drivers since most are friendly, unlike a majority of Hoboken cab drivers, and I have never heard a complaint about working for Uber. The only negative I hear is that Hoboken police harass them, so they have had to move to working in JC or UC more than in Hoboken. [quote comment=”224533″]Though this seems to be a pro uber article, I’d still like to refute the last bullet point in this article…”Uber drivers (“contractors”) are starting to despise Uber because the earning potential is not what was promised (especially with per mile rates dropping).” I use uber a good amount and I’ve never had a driver who didn’t love working for them, besides the threat of being harassed and ticketed by police in Hoboken.[/quote]

ntableman
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ntableman

Let me get this right, I can…

Call a nasty cab dispatcher or use my phone…

Ride to EWR in a nice new and clean car or a car that hasn’t been cleaned in a decade and might not make it…

Get picked up with a hello and taken wherever I need to go, or sit and wait for the cab driver to decide he’s asked enough people if they are going in the same direction…

Get picked up and have AC and someone paying attention or be at the mercy of someone who is clearly on the phone…

Have to remind a cab driver of the law, or just get picked up and taken home quickly or easily…

Get yelled at if I refuse a tip for crappy service or just get where I need to go easily…

Hoboken cab drivers (and cab drivers in a lot of places) deserve EVERYTHING THEY GET.

This will sort itself out in all the details, but it has gone too far to go back, to many of us CANNOT STAND the hoboken cabbies and their decades of crappy behavior – it isn’t cab vs. uber, it will got back to uber vs. bus/walking.

Cab companies and cab unions had every single opportunity to improve, they just didn’t. They had every opportunity to offer better service, they just don’t. Too bad, free market can’t be held back forever.a

homeworld
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The same crappy cabs that make you ride around with a bunch of strangers because they want to fit multiple fares in their cars are going to claim Uber isn’t safe? That’s a riot.

third pwr
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third pwr

everyone wants their piece of the pie.

toms_el_bavaro
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toms_el_bavaro

We should differentiate two things here. The convencience with current taxis and limos sucks. Try to call one, if you get through you never when they show up. Out of town is ridicoulously expensive. Look at the quality of cars,! What about credit card payment? This is where uber and lyft are WAY better and I expect this quality level for all taxi and limo transportation.
The second part concerning licenses, insurance etc: there should be a level playing field and I am willing to pay a little more for that and would rather have drivers you know the area and not subsidize these commercial drivers with my car policy.

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