Reader Mail: Noisy Neighbors

3/3/2008:

Man, this is a tough subject when you live in an apartment building, Hoboken or not.

What do you do if you live below a family with kids who love to run, stomp and play?

Here’s what one reader is dealing with right now:

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Damn, those noisy kids!

“I recently read the letter from a reader about his or her troubles with a problem tenant that they chalked up to section 8 housing. My problems aren’t as serious or causing danger, but it got me to thinking: how many renters in Hoboken have the same issue as me and how has the landlord helped them? Issue: my upstairs neighbors are a family with about 5-7 kids (i don’t really know the exact number, it’s been hard to determine). It’s most likely a 3 bedroom apartment, as I know it is bigger than mine. For the first couple months that I lived in this apartment, it sounded like my upstairs neighbors were re-arranging the furniture on the weekends. That’s what I thought at least, so I thought nothing of it. Until I realized that it had been about 3-4 months of this activity every Saturday morning. It starts around 6:30am and goes until at least 9am. Similar noises go on Monday through Friday as well in the morning, although I leave by 8am so I don’t know exactly how long it goes on for. Another common thing is the evening between 5-8 or later sometimes. Last night I got home from work and it sounded like they were playing football upstairs, full contact.

hoboken-be-quiet.jpgNow, I know kids will be kids and play and run around. But these kids make so much noise it would be impossible to describe. It’s over my living room, but the apartment adjacent to mine has a bedroom sharing my living room wall. I know of at least one tenant that has moved within the building primarily because of this issue. This other tenant told me they constantly called the landlord and complained, which I did as well for much of the first year I lived in the apartment. But I had since given up. I’ve spent a lot of weekends out of town so it bothered me less. But then recently, as I have in the past, I had guests for the weekend that slept in my living room. Saturday morning, sure enough, 6:30am, they’re awake in the living room because of the noise. I’ve had all different sorts of visitors at different times, and they all cannot believe the noise. I’ve lived under other families and have never heard anything like this.

The landlord has heard my complaints, I’ve spoken to my upstairs neighbor who says it’s just “kids being kids”. The landlord has heard other complaints. According to the upstairs neighbor, previous tenants from my apartment used to complain about his family also. It’s becoming obvious that the landlord is probably never going to do anything, and I’m going ot have to start considering moving, even though I don’t want the cost of moving. Sometimes it makes me so angry that it completely ruins my weekend because I cannot relax.

How many other renters share my issue in this town of having to deal with more than “normal” family noise from a neighbor?”

176 Responses

  1. frink says:

    [quote comment=”124840″][quote comment=”124745″]wait, he said the problem is a rabbi and his six kids? well there you go; the chosen people don’t care about anyone but themselves. you will never ever ever ever get a reasonable response out of them. and how’s the smell? just GTF out of there and dare your landlord to try to take you to court.[/quote]

    Just wondering, why are the Jews called the chosen people? Or they made that up themselves?[/quote]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_a_chosen_people

  2. zxcv says:

    [quote comment=”124815″]You can stop being an asshole and realize that he is now in a wheelchair. He is not on here posting about some bitch who has hypersensitive ears.[/quote]

    So having a disability is an automatic license to torture your neighbors? You’ve never been here, you dipshit tool. Every morning I don’t know whether I’m going to be woken up by my alarm clock or by someone dragging things around at 7 am. Shove your insults up your ass.

  3. devilbat says:

    [quote comment=”124745″]wait, he said the problem is a rabbi and his six kids? well there you go; the chosen people don’t care about anyone but themselves. you will never ever ever ever get a reasonable response out of them. and how’s the smell? just GTF out of there and dare your landlord to try to take you to court.[/quote]

    What is it with this guy and his anti semitic rants?
    Terrible.

  4. Katie_Scarlett says:

    [quote comment=”124856″][quote comment=”124815″]You can stop being an asshole and realize that he is now in a wheelchair. He is not on here posting about some bitch who has hypersensitive ears.[/quote]

    So having a disability is an automatic license to torture your neighbors? You’ve never been here, you dipshit tool. Every morning I don’t know whether I’m going to be woken up by my alarm clock or by someone dragging things around at 7 am. Shove your insults up your ass.[/quote]
    Is he permanently disabled or is this a temporary thing? If it’s permanent, it’s ridiculous that he doesn’t need to put something on his floor (if not carpet, how about mats similar to those at the gym? If it’s temporary, I agree he’s a big asshole for not trying to mitigate the noise, but at least there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.

    This situation surely sucks and I feel for you. The drunk idiot above me had surgery last year and used that as an excuse for excessive noise. I believe she was using a walker.

  5. 9 says:

    [quote comment=”124877″]What is it with this guy and his anti semitic rants?
    Terrible.[/quote]

    In all fairness, he’s not anti-Semitic. He hates everyone. 😐

  6. strand tramp says:

    ha ha ha ! thank you 9!

  7. bradykp says:

    the mini rabbis are wrestling and running springs upstairs now if anyone wants to stop by, have a beer, and make a shitload of noise.

  8. escaped68 says:

    Here’s something, are you friendly with the person who lives above this bunch. If you are when they start go up ther and dribble a basketball,drop some marbles,or tap dance.

  9. bradykp says:

    i actually have been meaning to go introduce myself to their upstairs neighbors. i think that’s my best option. i’ll pay for the supplies, and they can host the parties. lol

  10. bradykp says:

    since about 6:45am – i could hear them from my bedroom – even though they live over my living room. they musta really been pounding the floor this morning. now i enjoy a nice loud group of children and one screaming kid. it’s a pleasant way to start this snowy day.

  11. fern says:

    bradykp – I would complain to your landlord one more time – if he doesn’t response I would tell him that you are putting your rent into an escrow account and you will not pay until he does something to stop the noise. Make sure you document this. The standard lease I use for my tenants has a “Rules and Regulations” section which reads (a) The comfort and rights of other tenants must not be interfered with. Annoying sounds, odors and lights are not allowed”. The landlord will have to go down to the county court and file papers against you, pay a fee, come to court and it is a big pain in the ass. In most cases the court rules in favor of the tenant and he can’t kick you out if you are prepared to pay the rent and show the court that it is in an account. It might be worth it to have your day in court just to make your landlord go out of his way and the judge will probably tell him to fix the situation. If he doesn’t fix it – make him go through the whole thing again.

  12. matt_72 says:

    Many leases also require a certain amount of carpeting be put down by the occupant of a unit – which should help limit the noise. I bet they don’t have any.

  13. Katie_Scarlett says:

    [quote comment=”127971″]bradykp – I would complain to your landlord one more time – if he doesn’t response I would tell him that you are putting your rent into an escrow account and you will not pay until he does something to stop the noise. Make sure you document this.

    The standard lease I use for my tenants has a “Rules and Regulations” section which reads (a) The comfort and rights of other tenants must not be interfered with. Annoying sounds, odors and lights are not allowed”. The landlord will have to go down to the county court and file papers against you, pay a fee, come to court and it is a big pain in the ass. In most cases the court rules in favor of the tenant and he can’t kick you out if you are prepared to pay the rent and show the court that it is in an account. It might be worth it to have your day in court just to make your landlord go out of his way and the judge will probably tell him to fix the situation. If he doesn’t fix it – make him go through the whole thing again.[/quote]
    Fern’s 100% right and that clause she has is considered “quiet enjoyment”. You have that right as a tenant in NJ. Take her advice. OR take mine and buy a rocket launcher!

  14. strand tramp says:

    H411, please kill this thread, we have all heard how bad this kid’s rabbi neighbor is, but he doesn’t move. he’s an idiot. move on.

  15. bradykp says:

    fern – you are right. but the solution to the quiet enjoyment clause doesn’t have to be the landlord getting rid of the rabbi. the solution can be simply letting me break my lease. it’s just not the solution i care for.

    matt – you’re right about the carpet. he has none. but our leases don’t require a minimal coverage.

    strand – I’m not an idiot. Moving isn’t always an option. there’s various reasons why I stay where I stay and deal with the upstairs nuisance. Sometimes though, it gets bad, and I come on here and post. I thought it would be fun to get some good ideas to exact revenge on the neighbors. Don’t read it if you don’t care.

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