Reader Mail: Noisy Neighbors

3/3/2008:

Man, this is a tough subject when you live in an apartment building, Hoboken or not.

What do you do if you live below a family with kids who love to run, stomp and play?

Here’s what one reader is dealing with right now:

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Damn, those noisy kids!

“I recently read the letter from a reader about his or her troubles with a problem tenant that they chalked up to section 8 housing. My problems aren’t as serious or causing danger, but it got me to thinking: how many renters in Hoboken have the same issue as me and how has the landlord helped them? Issue: my upstairs neighbors are a family with about 5-7 kids (i don’t really know the exact number, it’s been hard to determine). It’s most likely a 3 bedroom apartment, as I know it is bigger than mine. For the first couple months that I lived in this apartment, it sounded like my upstairs neighbors were re-arranging the furniture on the weekends. That’s what I thought at least, so I thought nothing of it. Until I realized that it had been about 3-4 months of this activity every Saturday morning. It starts around 6:30am and goes until at least 9am. Similar noises go on Monday through Friday as well in the morning, although I leave by 8am so I don’t know exactly how long it goes on for. Another common thing is the evening between 5-8 or later sometimes. Last night I got home from work and it sounded like they were playing football upstairs, full contact.

hoboken-be-quiet.jpgNow, I know kids will be kids and play and run around. But these kids make so much noise it would be impossible to describe. It’s over my living room, but the apartment adjacent to mine has a bedroom sharing my living room wall. I know of at least one tenant that has moved within the building primarily because of this issue. This other tenant told me they constantly called the landlord and complained, which I did as well for much of the first year I lived in the apartment. But I had since given up. I’ve spent a lot of weekends out of town so it bothered me less. But then recently, as I have in the past, I had guests for the weekend that slept in my living room. Saturday morning, sure enough, 6:30am, they’re awake in the living room because of the noise. I’ve had all different sorts of visitors at different times, and they all cannot believe the noise. I’ve lived under other families and have never heard anything like this.

The landlord has heard my complaints, I’ve spoken to my upstairs neighbor who says it’s just “kids being kids”. The landlord has heard other complaints. According to the upstairs neighbor, previous tenants from my apartment used to complain about his family also. It’s becoming obvious that the landlord is probably never going to do anything, and I’m going ot have to start considering moving, even though I don’t want the cost of moving. Sometimes it makes me so angry that it completely ruins my weekend because I cannot relax.

How many other renters share my issue in this town of having to deal with more than “normal” family noise from a neighbor?”

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176 Comments on "Reader Mail: Noisy Neighbors"


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bradykp
6 years 7 months ago

fern – you are right. but the solution to the quiet enjoyment clause doesn’t have to be the landlord getting rid of the rabbi. the solution can be simply letting me break my lease. it’s just not the solution i care for.

matt – you’re right about the carpet. he has none. but our leases don’t require a minimal coverage.

strand – I’m not an idiot. Moving isn’t always an option. there’s various reasons why I stay where I stay and deal with the upstairs nuisance. Sometimes though, it gets bad, and I come on here and post. I thought it would be fun to get some good ideas to exact revenge on the neighbors. Don’t read it if you don’t care.

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strand tramp
6 years 7 months ago

H411, please kill this thread, we have all heard how bad this kid’s rabbi neighbor is, but he doesn’t move. he’s an idiot. move on.

Member
6 years 7 months ago

[quote comment=”127971″]bradykp – I would complain to your landlord one more time – if he doesn’t response I would tell him that you are putting your rent into an escrow account and you will not pay until he does something to stop the noise. Make sure you document this.

The standard lease I use for my tenants has a “Rules and Regulations” section which reads (a) The comfort and rights of other tenants must not be interfered with. Annoying sounds, odors and lights are not allowed”. The landlord will have to go down to the county court and file papers against you, pay a fee, come to court and it is a big pain in the ass. In most cases the court rules in favor of the tenant and he can’t kick you out if you are prepared to pay the rent and show the court that it is in an account. It might be worth it to have your day in court just to make your landlord go out of his way and the judge will probably tell him to fix the situation. If he doesn’t fix it – make him go through the whole thing again.[/quote]
Fern’s 100% right and that clause she has is considered “quiet enjoyment”. You have that right as a tenant in NJ. Take her advice. OR take mine and buy a rocket launcher!

Member
6 years 7 months ago

Many leases also require a certain amount of carpeting be put down by the occupant of a unit – which should help limit the noise. I bet they don’t have any.

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fern
6 years 7 months ago

bradykp – I would complain to your landlord one more time – if he doesn’t response I would tell him that you are putting your rent into an escrow account and you will not pay until he does something to stop the noise. Make sure you document this. The standard lease I use for my tenants has a “Rules and Regulations” section which reads (a) The comfort and rights of other tenants must not be interfered with. Annoying sounds, odors and lights are not allowed”. The landlord will have to go down to the county court and file papers against you, pay a fee, come to court and it is a big pain in the ass. In most cases the court rules in favor of the tenant and he can’t kick you out if you are prepared to pay the rent and show the court that it is in an account. It might be worth it to have your day in court just to make your landlord go out of his way and the judge will probably tell him to fix the situation. If he doesn’t fix it – make him go through the whole thing again.