Intersection parking confusion
1/15/2008:
Today’s parking entries might piss a lot of people off. We’ll start it off slowly, with a reader mail segment (along with my own personal experience), and then you’ll see a chunky nugget after this.. that should make you steaming mad.
A Hoboken411 reader parked her vehicle in the last spot on the street and received an intersection parking ticket:
“Here’s what I came out to this morning.(apparently given on sat. at 8.30 am), a 54 dollar ticket for parking within 25 feet of a crosswalk. I left plenty of room to handle the fire hydrant (and the entire intersection was flooded when I parked, so I doubt you could even see any lines on the curb)–a great infrastructure we have here. This is really obscene. You can see the little white lines on the other side of the street–supposedly HPU is marking where it’s really ok to park, but I leave that to you to figure out. Peter Cunningham had sent an email about this a few weeks ago.”
I myself received not one, but TWO similar tickets last week (they were nice enough to fold them together.) The bumper was essentially on the line. Sure, I could have moved up 2 more inches, but then the guy ahead of me would have had a harder time getting out. Just being considerate.
City Hall needs to clearly indicate what the hell is going on. There are no signs that say which line is correct. “Parking on or past the stupid little white line is an ordinance violation” or “you must clear this line by 6 inches, ON the line doesn’t count.” And it’s about time they ELIMINATED those lines entirely, and neatly painted each and every curb with new super-bright reflective yellow paint. This MacGyver crap has to stop. And is the rule bumpers, or tires? Is it where the line starts, or where it ends? Does “touching” the line count?
The best bet, in my opinion, is to put a friggin sign EXACTLY where the line is. “Any part of your vehicle beyond this sign results in summons.” Clean it up already, damnit!
Hoboken NJ
31 Responses to ** Intersection parking confusion **
January 15th, 2008 |
I believe the law is no parking within 25 feet of a stop sign. Maybe that is why the ticket was issued. Ok now everybody get pissed off and give me hell.
Login or Register to reply
January 15th, 2008 |
In response to dirtyjerz who said:
I’ve lived here for over 10 years. If I didn’t read this site, I would have no idea what those lines mean.
Login or Register to reply
January 15th, 2008 |
Okay here is a good question.
The city of Hoboken wants to encourage saftey by enforcing the 12 (?) foot rule. That is no cars are allowed to park with 12 feet of the corner. This is so fire trucks can make the turn. Also it ensures good visiblity for cars entering the inteesection.
THEN WHY DOES THE CITY ENCOURAGE TRUCKS TO PARK ON THE CORNERS BY PROVIDE LOADING ZONES ON THE CORNERS? The most famous example is at the corner of Garden and Newark.
Login or Register to reply
January 15th, 2008 |
Does anyone know how the parking authority decides when to ticket vs. when to boot? Is there some sort of ordinance that defines what is a bootable offense?
Login or Register to reply
January 15th, 2008 |
I think it goes something like this:
Parking Enforcement comes upon a car in possible violation.
If the person says “hey, that’s Frankie’s car”: No ticket, no boot.
If the person says “hey, I think that’s Frankie’s car”: Ticket only.
If the person says “Dunno whose car that is”: Boot away.
Login or Register to reply
January 16th, 2008 |
I know someone who was parked in a school zone one morning, walked his dog, saw a cop giving his car a ticket, decided to just finish walking the dog and get the ticket (no time to stop), so he put his dog back in the house, fed him, and, within 5 minutes (yes 5 minutes) ran back out to move his car — and his car was gone… TOWED… When he went to p/u his car at the tow pound, he asked the PU why they towed his car (since he’d never been towed before from a school zone, only ticketed) and the dude said it was up to the cop to decide whether or not it will be towed. No legal reason, that was the long and short of it.
Who do we contact to get some answers?
Login or Register to reply
January 16th, 2008 |
Road,
If he was parked illegally he assumes that risk. Sounds like he was a repeat offender. People like that should have their car imploded!
Login or Register to reply
January 16th, 2008 |
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Licenses/Driver%20Manual/Chapter_4.pdf
Parking Regulations
Check for traffic when leaving a vehicle after parking. Check for bicycles and mopeds, which are sometimes difficult to see, before opening the driver-side door and exiting the vehicle.
Look at all parking-related signs for parking restrictions. It is illegal to park more than six inches from the curb.
Except to avoid an accident or unless directed to do so by a
police officer, do not park:
• on a crosswalk
• between a safety zone for pedestrians and the adjacent
curb, or 20 feet from the end of a safety zone
• near properly marked street construction
• in a space on public or private property marked for
the handicapped
• on an interstate highway
• in a bus stop zone
• in front of a public or private driveway
• within an intersection
• within 10 feet of a fire hydrant
• within 25 feet of a crosswalk at an intersection or side line of a street or intersection highway, except at alleys
• within 50 feet of a railroad crossing
• within 50 feet of a stop sign
• within 20 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station;
and 75 feet on the street opposite a fire station entrance
• on any bridge, elevated roadway or in any tunnel
• next to another vehicle parked at the curb, known as
double parking
• in any area where parking is prohibited by municipal
ordinance
Login or Register to reply
August 12th, 2008 |
In response to Journey who said:
interesting stuff. is the 50 feet rule ever enforced for stop signs? i mean, i’m sure people get ticketed for being near the intersection, but i’m wondering what the offense on the ticket says, since most intersections have stop signs, that means basically 2.5/3 car lengths from the stop sign right?
Login or Register to reply
August 12th, 2008 |
In response to bradykp who said:
This did not take place in Hoboken, but my friend from Oradell got a ticket for being parked within 50 ft of a stop sign. He said that there was at least 30 to 40 feet of room – but he got stuck with the ticket. There are no yellow curbs in the suburbs – so he just parked and didn’t think to get out a yardstick.
Login or Register to reply
August 12th, 2008 |
In response to lm24kc who said:
yeah it sucks. it’s pretty hard to judge something like 50 feet. 25 from the curb is doable….but 50 from a stop sign….they need to paint.
Login or Register to reply
You must be logged in to post a comment.