Hoboken reval rhetoric

Council seeks to terminate “rolling reassessment” in Hoboken

Zimmer misled council members, no transparency…

Hoboken City Council members Beth Mason, Theresa Castellano, Michael Russo and Tim Occhipinti called on “mayor” Zimmer today to cancel the City of Hoboken’s rolling reassessment program. The proposed rolling reassessment program would require the City of Hoboken to reevaluate properties on an annual basis. In addition, the program would require Hoboken properties be reevaluated according to market trends and values.

Hoboken Property Taxes

“Zimmer’s rolling reassessment program will not reduce our city’s tax burden,” said Councilwoman Mason. “This will lead to yet another tax increase for Hoboken residents. We should immediately terminate the contract of the firm the Mayor supported to conduct the rolling revaluation program.”

Earlier this year, Zimmer sought and received state approval to establish the rolling reassessment program before consulting the City Council. Her administration submitted a resolution to hire the same company that conducted the 2013 property tax revaluation, but the resolution failed to specify that it was for a new rolling reassessment program.

As a result of the rolling reassessment program, if properties are sold over market value or when building permits are taken out by a homeowner to make an improvement the Zimmer Administration will be able to increase property taxes on a continual basis.

As usual, Zimmer kept the independent thinkers on the City Council in the dark. Zimmer’s record on taxes is one that she should find very embarrassing. She promised to cut property taxes by 25% within 90 days of taking office and failed to do so, she blew a $25 million surplus on patronage and wasteful spending, and then her allies on the Hoboken Board of Education voted to take away the public’s right to vote on the school budget. I guess this is the latest chapter in her terrible track record,” said Councilwoman Theresa Castellano.

“We were elected to put the best interest of our constituents first, and I cannot support a program that runs the risk of increasing taxes on our residents,” said Councilman Russo. “I am committed to working with my colleagues to cut wasteful spending and provide much-needed tax relief for our families. She continues to point out that the County overtaxes residents, and it appears that her solution is to join the party and overtax residents at the municipal level as well. It is absolutely absurd.”

“Zimmer was the poster child for Governor Christie’s two-percent property taxes cap. However, patronage hires, skyrocketing legal costs, and fiscal mismanagement have rendered her unable to live within that two-percent cap. Instead, the Mayor is using this rolling revaluation as a way to circumvent the very property tax cap that she traveled the state to support. Evidently when her opinion of Governor Christie changed, so did her support for the two-percent cap,” Councilman Occhipinti said.

At the December 2nd City Council meeting Council members Mason, Castellano, Russo, and Occhipinti will introduce a resolution to terminate the professional services contract of the firm hired to conduct the rolling revaluation program. To date, the revaluation program has cost Hoboken taxpayers $680,000 and will top over $1 million in the next four years.

Property Taxes and Values – a sticky situation in Hoboken

A bunch of people asked me about this last week, as a lot of residents are scrambling to get a handle on their property taxes, the whole “assessment” process the city is fiddling with and more.

Is there anything “fair” about property tax assessment in Hoboken?

But I’d like to remind people – that rather than arguing over how much YOU pay – I think there are more disturbing issues to tackle, like determining a truly FAIR way to subsidize such an ineffective “corporation” called the City of Hoboken.

  • For one, as we cited an example earlier this year, a family of four living in a $350k condo pays a lot less than a single individual living in a $950k condo – yet uses significantly more of the city resources. That single fact alone makes their method of calculating the “contributions” a property-owning resident should make completely INVALID. Perpetually punishing someone because of what they can afford is just not sustainable. This is a lot different than a “sales tax.” When people start putting their heads together to crack this nut, then it makes sense to further the discussion.
  • Additionally, now the city wants to blow through hundreds of thousands of dollars to ANNUALLY INSPECT the properties! What kind of INVASION OF PRIVACY is that? Do you want that much government intrusion? It’s off-the-charts ridiculous, and I can sense another “revolt” amongst the residents brewing.

What sucks beyond belief – is the fact that all of you think you “own” your property. You don’t. You’re “renting” from the city.

When election time rolls around again, maybe there will be an intelligent candidate who will deliver a significantly smaller government and way to generate revenue that doesn’t OVER TAX the residents into poverty.

Hoboken Property Taxes “Revaluated” – Now what?


Hoboken Property Tax Revaluation 2014 NJ Hudson CountyProperty taxes, and taxes in general, has always been and will forever be a source of contention in this world. Just, or unjust. Fair, or unfair. Necessary, or unnecessary. We could debate it until we’re all blue in the face. Do we accept status quo? Or challenge the concept entirely? Is it even possible to get the public on the same page for this exceedingly complicated facet of society?

Either way – Hoboken recently went through this big “revaluation” of properties in town. As you can see from the Excel spreadsheet below – the total “assessed” value of properties in town rose dramatically over 350% from over $3 billion dollars to nearly $11 billion dollars. However, that doesn’t mean that your property taxes are increasing by that amount, because the estimated tax rate will be adjusted accordingly provided there is no “tax increase.”

The assessment model was switched to “fair market value.”

Play around with the numbers (in the red boxes) if you wish…

Are market value property taxes even “fair” in Hoboken?

Here’s a simple example of how “FMV” property taxes are absolutely flawed:

Take John, who saved his money and lived within his means. He was able to buy a luxury 2 Bed 2 Bath condo at Maxwell Place assessed at $1.5 million. His new 2014 tax rate will be slightly over $20,000 per year.

Then, take Katie and Susie, the lesbian couple with an adopted child “Odin” in the Hoboken public school system. They also have a 2 Bed 2 Bath condo with the exact same square footage in a lesser neighborhood on the west side of town. Their assessment is only $400,000 – and their tax rate is just over $5,000 per year.

Kate, Susie and Odin use much more of the city than John. They leave diapers in the playgrounds, use the toilets much more, and even get the Hoboken Fire Department to rush to their apartment twice a year as Odin was so “cute” when he learned how to dial 911 on the phone. Why should John pay nearly four times as much?

Always someone with the short end of the stick.

Alternative property taxes?

For the sake of argument, let’s say we absolutely need property taxes – they’re a necessity. Are there fairer methodologies?

  • Underlying Land Value – If we keep the tax strictly to the value of the land – this will promote owners to improve their properties. Now in Hoboken, someone will be apprehensive to make improvements – because they will fear their property taxes will go up too! This could result in degenerating neighborhoods.
  • Income generating properties only – If your land or property produces income, the city (and/or County) can levy a small tax on that. Maybe if the local governments can keep the costs of their programs within the tax revenues produced – it’d be like everyone else who has to “live within their means.” Like for instance, why does the Mayor need an “aide” anyway?
  • A la Carte services? – In my example above, why does John have to pay for our low-ranked school system with no kids? What about parents who send kids to private schools?

In the end – I think this “fair market value” system will turn out to be a disaster. Especially since it’s tied to a VERY unstable and fluctuating Real Estate market. What will happen later in 2014 when another bubble bursts? It’s going to be a logistical NIGHTMARE for city hall. Good luck with that!

Fair Housing meeting in Hoboken – August 15, 2013

This week, the Hoboken Fair Housing Association is holding an “urgent” meeting regarding the Property Reval that is currently going on. If you believe the current Hoboken property revaluation is in any way corrupt, politically motivated or controlled, or just plain “fishy,” this event is for you. Read their letter below, and mark you calendars for Thursday, August 15th from 7pm to 9pm.

Hoboken Reval Meeting corruption property taxes August 15 HFHA

Urgent matters regarding Hoboken Property Revaluation

Dear Friends of HFHA: As the flyer attached indicates, an important HFHA meeting is coming up on August 15th.

The meeting will take place at the Community Church at the corner of 6th & Garden Streets. Hoboken Fair Housing Association invites all local residents, officials, and press to attend.

There will be a number of urgent topics under discussion.

First off, tenants and homeowners alike need to know about the property revaluation being done in Hoboken right now by Appraisal Systems Inc.

This revaluation, which is currently taking place over several weeks, could potentially overvalue smaller homes and rental buildings, resulting in inflated taxes on these properties and thus force their sale.

poor residents after Hoboken revalMany small landlords, small owners and tenants of 1-4 unit and larger buildings will be pushed out of their homes if appraisers deviate from valuing buildings based on their actual rent-roll incomes, or if buildings are valued based on what “could” be if those buildings were torn down to make way for larger ones, instead of valuations based on the buildings currently in place.

And ASI has already stated at a public presentation that their method consists of valuing properties at their maximum “market value,” which is entirely speculative.

And, can you spell conflict-of-interest? ASI’s president was the tax assessor for Mountain Lakes, NJ while MSTA’s attorney was mayor of that town for eight years.

MSTA is the local developer/real-estate lobbying group that has frequently sued, and continues to sue, the city of Hoboken over its longstanding rental protections.

MSTA’s attorney unsuccessfully sued the city for over a million dollars worth of attorney’s fees for a previous class-action suit against the city that attempted to weaken Hoboken’s tenant protections. That suit was also unsuccessful.

And it is MSTA, of course, that is behind the stealing of the November 2012 rent-control election results — the attempt to usurp in the courtroom what they lost at the polls.

Learn what you can do to stand up for your rights against large real-estate interests who want to see rent-controlled tenants and smaller, older homes gone. Real-estate interests who, in an effort to destroy any trace of historic Hoboken, want to replace older homes with high-density condos accessible only to the very wealthy.

Homeowners in Princeton are standing up for their rights, and Hoboken can do the same. An important lawsuit has been brought in Princeton against ASI by a determined citizens / homeowner’s group. And Princeton is not the only town taking action against unfair property revaluations.

ASI has effectively acted as a reverse-Robin-Hood in Princeton, raising taxes disproportionately on small homeowners and lowering them for McMansions.

The video below by Jim Firestone in Princeton explains the manner in which ASI conducted its revaluation there. And the numbers here display ASI’s unfair, distorted taxing scheme in black & white.

According to a commenter here (scroll down to the last commenter): “…the largest reduction of all, 40%, went to Scott Siprelle a member of the Reevaluation Advisory Commmittee who got his Hodge Rd house reevaluated as part of the Cleveland Lane neighborhood.”


Particularly, Hoboken’s small homewoners need to organize around this issue — and they could do well to take a cue from the Princeton group.

Also at the August 15 meeting, we’ll provide an update on our legal appeal of the stealing of the November 2012 rent-control election results.

Attorney Renee Steinhagan of the New Jersey Appleseed Public Interest Law Center will provide details and bring us up to date on the action. You can read her absolutely first-rate brief (PDF) that was submitted to the appeals panel of judges who will be deciding the case.

We’ll also be hearing at the meeting from the heroic Matt Shapiro, president of NJTO. Matt will give us an overview of the housing crisis taking place throughout the state, and will offer guidance as to how to proceed in Hoboken.

HFHA stalwart and rent-levelling board member Cheryl Fallick will update us on the changing condo-rental regulations that may be about to happen, and what we can do about it.

This will also be a MEMBERSHIP DRIVE meeting for folks who are not currently HFHA members, and a time to renew expiring memberships. WE NEED YOU. Please plan on attending the meeting, and consider bringing at least ONE FRIEND WHO IS AFFECTED BY RENT-CONTROL OR THE PROPERTY REVALUATION.

And that’s pretty much everyone in town, isn’t it?

Hoboken reval meeting tonight

5/9/2013 Update:

Talk about a political football. The Hoboken reval (revaluation of properties for taxation purposes) has been kicked around so long – the city is now over two decades overdue. And tonight, the city is holding a special “council meeting” over at the Hoboken High School auditorium at 7pm.

Appraisal Systems was hired by the city to be the company to perform said “revaluations.” Whether they are truly objective – or figure out a way to subjectively “adjust” the values in Hoboken in favor of what Mayor Dawn Zimmer and her cronies want remains to be seen. How transparent, fair and honest this process will be could quite possibly be a mystery unless you’re a fly on the wall of the secret back room.

However – one Hoboken resident shines a little more light on the shenanigans at city hall…

Hoboken reval property tax meeting

Letter: Hoboken reval another Zimmer pie in the sky

“In 2009, Dawn promised Hoboken Revolt that the reval would be done right away. But she didn’t take action on the tax maps for over two years into her term.

Now four years later she’s finally holding a public meeting to talk about the reval?

A few thousand yuppies voted for her based solely on her promise for a reval. They were so sure that she would bring their property taxes down. I’m sure they feel duped despite all the good news spewing out of her spin department.

The property tax revaluation is right up there with her flood protection sea walls and six acre park in the southwest.

It’s all pie in the sky. She’ll promise any kind of pie to get elected.”

Isn’t it interesting how politicians strive to “schedule” their real world civic obligations according to election timetables?

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Monday, January 6, 2014 4:55 pm

Why should the west be less than waterfront? Two words Land Value. Urban Waterfront property regardless of flooding/surge risk is high anywhere in the US. West Hoboken, the flood maps show, in a graded system, is several steps below sea level. Generally, because of the risks, the housing stock is also lesser construction. Therefore square footage and bedrooms without consideration for location does not produce real estate comparables.

Monday, January 6, 2014 12:26 pm

For far too long the owners of newer properties have been subsidizing the owners of old properties. Now at least it will be fair.

Monday, August 12, 2013 1:20 pm

Once again I scratch my head trying to figure out why everyone paying the same rate on up to date valuations is unfair. Whatever problems one may have with perceived or real conflicts of interest with the chosen appraiser, it is a process that legally must happen and is what ensures everyone pays their appropriate property taxes. For some, it means higher taxes because they have been getting by paying less than their fair share.

Monday, August 12, 2013 11:57 am

And that’s what it is…rhetoric. Take it for what it’s worth.

Tuesday, August 6, 2013 9:28 pm

So is it done on purpose that these “assessors” only show up when they know all residents of a building are at work? Seems to be an easy way to just value a property nice and high for the towns tax coffers.

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Monday, January 6, 2014 5:02 pm

Home Team, you have a good point. I stayed home for the representative and was sitting right by the front door. He did not knock, he simply left a note stating he came and I was not home and that the would make their own assumptions. After making several appointments he finally showed and knocked. He spent 90 seconds and left.[quote comment=”221351″]So is it done on purpose that these “assessors” only show up when they know all residents of a building are at work? Seems to be an easy way to just value a property nice and high for the towns tax coffers.[/quote]

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