Less open space in Hoboken!

12/23/2009:

Wasn’t that open before?

Hoboken411 reader Richard wonders why this space between the south-eastern buildings at the corner of River Street and Hudson Place is now closed off – after being open forever!

Regardless of why the sign says private property, do you why it’s closed off?

“Did I miss this? Has this been here for a while, but I’ve just been tuned out? When did this fence go up, and is it even legal to do so? I thought this was a public easement, if not a public space.”

Hoboken public area fenced off near Hudson Street and Hudson Place - Less open space in Hoboken!

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jamon
jamon
Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:37 am

You should look into something call PPP (Public-Private Partnerships)
this is when governments accept money from private corporations, foundations or any other private entity. “Bankrupt governments are very susceptible to being bought out by PPP’s. The benefit goes to the money partner in the form of influence and power, tax breaks, governmental enforcement of policy, etc.
so i think an email or letter should be send to the Mayor to see if this is the case with this all of a sudden private property”.This is what’s going on right now in California.
check it out, also look for AGENDA 21 Sustainable Development.

Mama Luke
Mama Luke
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:04 pm

I think it was a great move. All the drunken assholes pissing and throwing up there all the time.

plywood
plywood
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:40 pm

I don’t think this is intrigue at all. Clearly many or most people could hop the fence if needed. There must have been something going on in there that was a problem for the landlord, and now he has a deterrent, where he/she can say “look you hopped a fence and passed a ‘private property’ sign to get in here, you’re trespassing”. The fence is minimalistic and unobtrusive enough. The real question is could a class action “easement by prescription” case win in court. I believe the limit is 20 years.

NickAdams
NickAdams
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:09 pm

I was just thinking today about writing in about this. The fence went up about 2 to 3 weeks ago. Now it is locked as well. I question whether it truly is private property as it has been open as long as I can recall (more than 2 decades at least). Second, there is a remnant of the trolly tracks in there. Since when do trolly tracks run on private property? Unless the land was acquired after the trolly shut down, I wonder how it can be private property. Third, who is the owner? The Hoboken Land Building? On the other side it’s a # of property owners. Maybe I’ll call Theresa Castellano, she knows everything. It is very odd.

truth1
truth1
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:15 pm

“Good fences make good neighbors.” Robert Frost lol

plywood
plywood
Reply to  truth1
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:32 pm

Or make for less neighbors. I have more than once (pre-fence) seen homeless people sleeping in the bushes here. Also, you think maybe this secluded might be an extemporaneous bathroom or destination for mischief at times?

@post1 “outdoor cafe”: probably it is an easement so no one can set up tables here

In response to truth1 who said:

“Good fences make good neighbors.” Robert Frost lol

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