Botched traffic light = water main break

Another Hoboken water main break

Hoboken water main break Jackson and Newark May 2 2013One of four new traffic lights going up in Hoboken, NJ led to what seems to be the 100th water main break so far in 2013. The scene downtown near Jackson & Newark Streets is typical for what Hoboken has become as we keep building more and more. The density is causing unsustainable traffic patterns, and the city – instead of saying “let’s scale back development for awhile so we can figure out a sensible model,” thinks the band-aid approach of installing “traffic calming measures” is better.

Meanwhile – I asked one of the workers what happened to this rather large main (they suspect it was between 18″ and 24″), and they said “The road was not clearly marked.”

Apparently – whomever “marked” the street to indicate where the pipes were (United Water?), put the markings on the wrong side of the street, said the worker.

Downtown Hoboken will be an absolute mess during rush hour tonight. So if possible – leave work NOW (and take the uptown entrance to the city). Either way – be prepared for a little bit of a commuting nightmare until repairs are done.

It looks like these water mains are the best “traffic calming measures” ever! Completely no traffic at all!

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9 Comments on "Botched traffic light = water main break"

HobNJ
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HobNJ

Is this why the water coming out of the faucet is brown today? Just noticed it happening in the last hour or so. Anyone else seeing the same?

mrfreddy
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mrfreddy

Just back home from walking the dogs, 8:30 am, traffic is still a mess, backed up to 3rd street on Jefferson.

vpm
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With population growth and the current trend towards urbanization you are kidding yourself if think you scale back on development and solve all your problems, all you will accomplish is sending property and rents prices soaring. The more progressive approach is to increase density and remove the automobile from the city. The automobile is such an inefficient means of transportation in terms of space required per passenger. You will find that trams, bikes, and walking will substantially increase the traffic capacity of the streets, reduce the need for parking, increase cross town travel speeds, and reduce air pollution within the city.

Real bike lanes have a curb cut up to them and are protected from vechicular traffic with a line of trees. Then bikers will actually use them because they feel safe. I did a study once and if you turned all of the streets of Hoboken into parks it would make a 200 acres park in an 800 scre city. Something to think about. But I promise you the parking and traffic problem will not get better without a change in lifestyle.

YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken

You don’t have to ‘remove the automobile from the city’. You just have to route it and accommodate/regulate it properly–or, in a ‘progressive’ way (see Zermatt, for example). [quote comment=”220638″]With population growth and the current trend towards urbanization you are kidding yourself if think you scale back on development and solve all your problems, all you will accomplish is sending property and rents prices soaring. The more progressive approach is to increase density and remove the automobile from the city. The automobile is such an inefficient means of transportation in terms of space required per passenger. You will find that trams, bikes, and walking will substantially increase the traffic capacity of the streets, reduce the need for parking, increase cross town travel speeds, and reduce air pollution within the city.Real bike lanes have a curb cut up to them and are protected from vechicular traffic with a line of trees. Then bikers will actually use them because they feel safe. I did a study once and if you turned all of the streets of Hoboken into parks it would make a 200 acres park in an 800 scre city. Something to think about. But I promise you the parking and traffic problem will not get better without a change in lifestyle.[/quote]

adamview2
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adamview2

The best Zimmer will Blame everyone, but who from her Departments are in charge of overseeing road work????????

YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken

Given the past performance of United Water’s marking locations and contractors hitting the mains while doing excavation, it should be required by the city that contractors hand dig to verify location of water mains. This takes longer and is more expensive, but it’s a better option than taking out customers’ service. Should be done at United Water’s expense. (Imagine if our power, phone, etc. were also buried under the roadways.)

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