24 hour outdoor seating sidewalk blockage?

Why does Elysian Cafe block sidewalk 24 hours a day?

Elysian Cafe gets favorable treatment for blocking sidewalkYou know – the city did one thing right in recent memory. Hoboken411 had been saying for years, that the “seasonal” use of outdoor seating by restaurants in Hoboken was nonsensical. They recently approved outdoor seating all year round, so a restaurant can capitalize whenever the weather was nice (such as a 60 degree day in February, etc.)

However – it seems that some restaurants in town are violating other parts of the city code for “limited sidewalk cafes.” Like Elysian Cafe, at 10th & Washington for instance.

How does Elysian get away with violating several parts of the code on a daily basis? Like:

  1. No sidewalk café shall be permitted to project into a sidewalk more than half the width of said sidewalk or eight (8) feet, whichever is less, but in no case shall it extend so far as to leave less than six (6) feet for pedestrian traffic. Elysian leaves less than four feet – and with stroller moms just standing there half the time, means pedestrians must walk in the street to pass by.
  2. No preparation of food or beverages shall take place outdoors but shall be restricted to the inside of the licensed establishment. They have a water and ice station located outside. You want a maggot-carrying fly landing in your water?
  3. Most important: The sidewalk café partition, overhead covering, and all tables, chairs, and other café furniture shall be removed from the sidewalk at the close of business each day. Elysian leaves the partitions out 24 HOURS A DAY!

The fees range from $150 up to $500 per violation, per day. If the business fails to rectify the situation within 10 days, their license may be revoked.

Not sure why some businesses get favorable treatment and others have to follow the rules. I suppose you can use your imagination to figure out why.

Elysian Cafe blocks sidewalk 24 hours a day in Hoboken NJ

10 Responses

  1. hoboken0226 says:

    I’m okay with it. Their french fries and grill chicken sandwich are awesome. 😛

  2. h4sbilc says:

    Is it possible that the area in question is actually part of their property line? From the picture above, it looks like their fence about lines up with the fences of the brownstones on either end.

    Rather than protruding onto the sidewalk, they are actually just fencing in their own property, which would not violate the above mentioned rules #1 & #3. They probably shouldn’t have the water station outdoors though. That still looks like a violation.

    • hoboken551 says:

      H4sbilc- I would bet that that is the case. Like a backyard. [quote comment=”220469″]Is it possible that the area in question is actually part of their property line? From the picture above, it looks like their fence about lines up with the fences of the brownstones on either end.Rather than protruding onto the sidewalk, they are actually just fencing in their own property, which would not violate the above mentioned rules #1 & #3. They probably shouldn’t have the water station outdoors though. That still looks like a violation.[/quote]

    • Oldehickory says:

      I suspect this is the correct answer. ‘Sidewalk’ is probably defined as the public right-of-way, which wouldn’t include private property.

      I suspect if there was a way to squeeze fines out of the situation, Hoboken would’ve squeezed long ago.[quote comment=”220469″]Is it possible that the area in question is actually part of their property line? From the picture above, it looks like their fence about lines up with the fences of the brownstones on either end.Rather than protruding onto the sidewalk, they are actually just fencing in their own property, which would not violate the above mentioned rules #1 & #3. They probably shouldn’t have the water station outdoors though. That still looks like a violation.[/quote]

  3. HomeTeam says:

    Just look on the ELEC reports and see who the owner donated too. Your answer is more than likely there.

    • joey maxim says:

      wouldn’t that situation be up the inspector aka how much does he she earn per year waa a time this person issued summons to store keepers reasturant onwers for not exceeding the distance of 30 feet from the doorway..bring it up at the council of the puzzle palace.[quote comment=”220470″]Just look on the ELEC reports and see who the owner donated too. Your answer is more than likely there.[/quote]

  4. QJ201 says:

    Clearly no one is paying attention downtown on Newark St east of Washington either OR in front of Carlo’s either. In fact, Carlo’s customers routinely block sidewalk and it seems Mr. Valastro doesn’t train the teenager’s who hand out the waiting line tickets at the door in crowd control.

    …and we need some regulations on awnings. I’m 6 feet tall and I have to play dodge the awnings (and at times tree branches) on our city streets.

  5. tommyhoboken2 says:

    Is it really bothering you?

  6. doublestrollermom says:

    Looking forward to the nice weather and eating outside! :)

  7. ohnoivotedforher says:

    Uh oh, nobody mentioned the dogs that get tied to the outdoor area…The fries are awesome.

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