Ice Cream Trucks in Hoboken

Double standard for Ice Cream trucks in Hoboken NJ?

Hoboken411 reader Arseny sent in this photo of some Hoboken ice cream trucks and said:

“My beef with food trucks is the noise their engines make. Also that they tend to park illegally. There are three at church square park. All making 3x noise and all parked illegally. This kind of thing happens every weekend.”

So now that we got that out in the open, and thought about it for a minute or two, the points and questions at hand are:

  1. Regular cars would get ticketed or towed for being in a no-stopping, no-standing zone. Why is it OK for food trucks? So kids can have ice cream?
  2. The noise apparently bothers some residents. Do the they need to keep them running? Are there alternative ways? Who addresses quality of life issues around here anyway?
  3. Gluttony. Do people need to have constant and immediate access to food and treats? Whatever happened to enjoying your tub of ice cream at home? Why all this “eating on the run” these days?

Illegally parked ice cream trucks and food trucks in Hoboken NJ

34 Responses

  1. joey maxim says:

    double standard..When one weighs the pros and cons guess the complaintent may have a slight edge..Judging from the photo looks like the mr softy truck is near a pier area or a park..The down side is at night with the generator running does make lots of noise.The up
    side this guy if the same guy has been around for years..Another down side is sometimes at night.after 10pm. Recall as a kid you waited for the eskimo,and lemon ice truck to pass
    by? Guess someone has to have something to complain about.

  2. Hoboken Teach says:

    Many parents and children of this community enjoy the ice cream that comes from the trucks. I spend a lot of time in that park, and love seeing the faces of the happy children when they’re eating it. If we’re telling kids they can’t eat ice cream, we’re taking a lot of the fun out of being a kid. I remember growing up chasing the ice cream truck in my town. I am a healthy adult as I was a healthy child. Kids can have treats as long as they have limits.

    Also, I believe people who choose to live next to the park should understand it is going to be noisy, particulary during the day. There are many upsides to living next to the park, but that is just one of the things that go along with it. Food trucks are people trying to make a living and support their family just like everyone else.

  3. Grayson says:

    I live close to Church Square Park and I’m there with my dog at least once a day. These trucks aren’t in anyone’s way, and they really don’t make much noise at all, especially when the park is full of kids… And before anyone says anything, the kids SHOULD be having fun and making noise. It’s a park! If anyone needs silence and plenty of open space the library is right across the street. I won’t speak for other locations, but the trucks are not around Church Square late night. This is only an issue if someone really wants to go out of their way to make it one.

  4. jonsie says:

    Don’t really have a problem with the trucks. Used to the city noise for a long time. But you have a point with #3. We live in an instant gratification society with little patience and no concept of anticipation.

    • h4sbilc says:

      How about the fact that families might like to enjoy their snack outside in the park, or surrounded by friends? Plus, having the truck standing there waiting for you is part of building the anticipation. I remember when I was a kid, I would go to a park with my parents and after playing for some time (hour or so) we would get something from a truck. Having the truck there while I was playing, knowing I couldn’t get it yet, was part of building the anticipation.

      I don’t argue that we live in an instant gratification society, but I don’t think having ice cream trucks at a park is reflective of that.

      My only problem with these trucks is that as you’re crossing 4th St at Park, you can’t see the cars coming down 4th because the trucks are blocking the view. Its dangerous, and someone is eventually going to get hurt.[quote comment=”220418″]Don’t really have a problem with the trucks. Used to the city noise for a long time. But you have a point with #3. We live in an instant gratification society with little patience and no concept of anticipation.[/quote]

  5. debra says:

    For goodness sake another thing to complain about. First off, Tony has been around and at that location for more years than you have probably lived in Hoboken. The two or three other trucks just seemed to appear one day and have come back every day. Maybe there should be a limit at to how many ice cream trucks surround a park, but as one poster said, everyone is trying to make a living. Were you ever a child, did your parents allow you to have ice cream? Maybe you should move to an area, like Upstate New York, where your nearest neighbor is a acres away and the nearest store is driving distance this way you can have it quiet. 😕

  6. beyondee7 says:

    Regarding “Gluttony. Do people need to have constant and immediate access to food and treats? Whatever happened to enjoying your tub of ice cream at home?”
    – it can be argued that it’s better to have the occasional ice cream treat while out than to keep a tub at home (which you might be tempted to eat too much of…)

  7. jonsie says:

    How far will you take modern convenience? Why draw the line anywhere at all? Foot rubs in the park, gastrointestinal exams, and bulimia bins may be next. What about a sex toy or dildo truck? I’m too lazy to walk to washington, and need some hot lube asap!

  8. Hoboken89 says:

    Wow, I recommend that Hoboken411 run for Mayor on a “ban kids in Hoboken” platform. Every other week it seems there is a negative article on strollers, moms, babies, and now ice cream trucks. I realize that there are plenty of articles critical of politians, developers, crime, etc on Hoboken411 that are justified. But, ice cream trucks in parks?

  9. Swaby says:

    Wow, this is pretty comical that someone is actually complaining about ice cream and food trucks at a children’s park. Can’t tell if people are being serious, or just trying to get a rise out of others. Either way, its make for some entertaining mid-day reading.

    Hoboken89 hit the nail on the head by saying that a lot of articles/pieces on here are very anti kids/babies/strollers etc. Seems to be that the only thing this site is in favor of is dogs; their safety and quality of life seem to take precedence.

    😉

    • hoboken411 says:

      @Swaby – The resident emailed his concerns to be shared with the readers.

    • jonsie says:

      So all the parents in Hoboken think all bets are out the window now if kids are involved? Should parents be able to double park and block intersections, if it were for the kids? That is what the sentiment sounds like. Oh, it’s ok they break the law if families and kids get some enjoyment out of it. Me me me. But they get mad at all the double parkers in front of bennys. [quote comment=”220428″]Wow, this is pretty comical that someone is actually complaining about ice cream and food trucks at a children’s park. Can’t tell if people are being serious, or just trying to get a rise out of others. Either way, its make for some entertaining mid-day reading.Hoboken89 hit the nail on the head by saying that a lot of articles/pieces on here are very anti kids/babies/strollers etc. Seems to be that the only thing this site is in favor of is dogs; their safety and quality of life seem to take precedence. [/quote]

      • Swaby says:

        Woah, woah, WOAH. . .Jonsie. I’m not by any means saying that parents can just do as they please in the world. That wasn’t my point at all. But for generations, ice cream trucks and parks have gone hand in hand. Ive known this to be the case in both suburban and urban settings, and I really can’t view this as a bad thing. Not sure what adult is being placed in harms way by any of this, or having their rights infringed upon.

        The additional food trucks that might be present; well that’s just a current trend which I’m sure will pass at some point. But I can’t be the only one who has fond memories of the Ice Cream man? King cones, choco taco’s, WWF ice cream bars. . .the list goes on and on. Why shouldn’t these kids share in that? Why can’t I reminiscence a little bit?[quote comment=”220431″]So all the parents in Hoboken think all bets are out the window now if kids are involved? Should parents be able to double park and block intersections, if it were for the kids? That is what the sentiment sounds like. Oh, it’s ok they break the law if families and kids get some enjoyment out of it. Me me me. But they get mad at all the double parkers in front of bennys.[/quote]

  10. HomeTeam says:

    The Mr Softee truck doesn’t leave his main engine on when at the park, but the generator that runs the fridges etc. He makes very little noise except for when the music plays and I have never heard it unless he was driving down a block in Hoboken.

    Should we dig up the thread from a few years ago when all the Ms. Lovejoy’s were crying “What about the children?” because Mr. Softee was there with his dangerous ice cream.

  11. Grayson says:

    Again, as someone who is there everyday, I can honestly say the biggest problem around there has nothing to do with these trucks. The biggest problem is the drivers heading west on 4th who slow down just barely enough to look to their right, and then fly through the stop sign at 4th and Willow without any regard for the pedestrians who might be there. So as a pedestrian who doesn’t feel like getting run down, especially with my dog by my side, I make sure to take the precautions that they don’t take. You have a much “better” chance of having a problem with those drivers than you ever will with Tony or any of the others in the area… And those people provide services that people obviously want, or they wouldn’t be there at all.

    • ktbc says:

      YES!!! EXACTLY!!! I also live on the park and was thinking the same thing when I read this post. I do not have the slightest issue with the ice cream trucks. If anything they help force drivers to slow down a bit when they’re driving around the park. By far, my biggest concern is drivers speeding and running stop signs on all sides/intersections. It’s frightening. I also have to exercise extra caution walking around there, whether I am on my own or with my dog. I can’t believe the way people drive so recklessly when they know the area is full of pedestrians, including adults, children, dogs, joggers, people playing ball, etc. It’s infuriating.[quote comment=”220435″]Again, as someone who is there everyday, I can honestly say the biggest problem around there has nothing to do with these trucks. The biggest problem is the drivers heading west on 4th who slow down just barely enough to look to their right, and then fly through the stop sign at 4th and Willow without any regard for the pedestrians who might be there. So as a pedestrian who doesn’t feel like getting run down, especially with my dog by my side, I make sure to take the precautions that they don’t take. You have a much “better” chance of having a problem with those drivers than you ever will with Tony or any of the others in the area… And those people provide services that people obviously want, or they wouldn’t be there at all.[/quote]

  12. Journey says:

    Ice cream trucks are not green, but it was something that I remember fondly from my childhood, how can I forbid my daughter having a occasional treat that?

    Tony is great guy, knows his customers, knows I want my daughter’s cone filled on the small side. He tends to park where he does not block line of sight or the crosswalk.

    It is not about instant gratification, for me it is nostalgic, I remember being 12 and spending the summer at the pool, and getting a cone.

    • spiffy says:

      Your childhood was probably in the suburbs. We loved the ice cream truck because as kids, we were running around, exerting ourselves, playing ball, riding bikes, being physically active. By the time the ice cream truck came around we were excited. Stores were usually a drive away. No competition on the back roads other than the girl selling lemonade.

      We have how many ice cream stores in short walking distance in Hoboken? The mobile trucks put a hurting on local brick and mortar shops.

      And I bet you’re the same person who can’t figure out why businesses close up on Washington street? Only a finite amount of money in this city.

      Today’s xbox playing fatties don’t need ice cream. They need a personal trainer and a swift kick in the ass. :roll: [quote comment=”220437″]Ice cream trucks are not green, but it was something that I remember fondly from my childhood, how can I forbid my daughter having a occasional treat that?Tony is great guy, knows his customers, knows I want my daughter’s cone filled on the small side. He tends to park where he does not block line of sight or the crosswalk.It is not about instant gratification, for me it is nostalgic, I remember being 12 and spending the summer at the pool, and getting a cone.[/quote]

      • Journey says:

        You make lots of assumptions about a stranger.

        The only child’s life I have control over is my own. And she is no fatty. She runs, walks, bikes, climbs and plays hard. We do use local businesses, and the only frozen dessert place to closes in the past 6/7 years was the Italian Ice place near the psychic. I think it was because they were often not open during prime day time hours when people would want an Ice. I tried to shop at Silletti Brothers Produce but because of their hours I would have had to take time off from work to do it.

        I choose a place in our neighborhood first, then in rest of Hoboken, I choose independents over chains.

        Mr. Softy is staple of cities and suburbs. I can’t remember the last time I was near any of the NYC parks without seeing a ice cream truck.

        Name any brick and mortar place that has closed down in the last decade.[quote comment=”220445″]Your childhood was probably in the suburbs. We loved the ice cream truck because as kids, we were running around, exerting ourselves, playing ball, riding bikes, being physically active. By the time the ice cream truck came around we were excited. Stores were usually a drive away. No competition on the back roads other than the girl selling lemonade.We have how many ice cream stores in short walking distance in Hoboken? The mobile trucks put a hurting on local brick and mortar shops.And I bet you’re the same person who can’t figure out why businesses close up on Washington street? Only a finite amount of money in this city.Today’s xbox playing fatties don’t need ice cream. They need a personal trainer and a swift kick in the ass. [/quote]

  13. boken603 says:

    Tony is a great member of our community and someone who brings smiles to his customers faces, both young and old, every day.
    Agree about the dangerous driving in the area.

  14. briank says:

    I used to live on the park. The truck would park right outside my windows and blare music all day long. The additional engine used to power the refrigeration systems is lien a car revving constantly. One Mothers Day, I was sitting down to dinner with my family, my parents, and brothers family. The truck had been blasting his music and sitting in the same spot for over 5 hours. I asked him to at least kill the music and move. He told me to screw off. After that, my complaints went to City Hall instead. The local ordnance not only prohibits standing in one spot, amplified music of any sort, but it even dictates how large the bells can be on a truck (obvi

    • Chow says:

      Liar Liar pants on fire—— the truck does not play any music when it is stationary and parked.

      I forgot that the real park name is Briank De’ Entitled Park…..

      You are full of it, where is a video recording of this…….

      Liar!!!![quote comment=”220432″]I used to live on the park. The truck would park right outside my windows and blare music all day long. The additional engine used to power the refrigeration systems is lien a car revving constantly. One Mothers Day, I was sitting down to dinner with my family, my parents, and brothers family. The truck had been blasting his music and sitting in the same spot for over 5 hours. I asked him to at least kill the music and move. He told me to screw off. After that, my complaints went to City Hall instead. The local ordnance not only prohibits standing in one spot, amplified music of any sort, but it even dictates how large the bells can be on a truck (obvi[/quote]

      • briank says:

        Yes Chow, I take time to write in and make up stories about ice cream trucks to hurt someone I don’t know. Please.
        Is it a figment of my imagination thy he generally would park on the southeast corner of 5th and Willow? That as soon as the line of customers was down served, he would turn the music back on to try to attract more customers? That I had to write to my councilman to complain?
        I have not live there for two years. But the spring time when you wanted to throw open your windows was miserable as I listened to his truck engines rev and misc play. Why else would I know the ordinance about trucks? About how they are supposed to move when done serving the last person in line? That the ordinance outlaws amplified music and actually even dictates the size of the bells they may use to attract customers? I would look this up so that a couple years later in could complain on a website about the ice cream guy?! Maybe your conspiracy theory comments need to be at the bottom of the chemtrail article instead of this one.
        [quote comment=”220548″]Liar Liar pants on fire—— the truck does not play any music when it is stationary and parked.I forgot that the real park name is Briank De’ Entitled Park…..You are full of it, where is a video recording of this…….Liar!!!![/quote]

      • Chow says:

        So let me get this straight, you most likely lived in the building on 5th and Willow with a daycare center in it that is only about 6 years old as it used to be a bank and parking lot. However, the ice cream truck has been there for well over 10 years.

        When you decide to open your windows, you expect silence because it is too loud. How about calling the police about noise complaints? Seems you forgot to mention that fact in your post.

        I used to live by a bus stop, should I write to NJ Transit and complain about their mufflers because they were so loud that on my days off it would wake me up if I wanted to sleep in?

        You bought by a park, did you really expect peace and quiet?[quote comment=”220559″]Yes Chow, I take time to write in and make up stories about ice cream trucks to hurt someone I don’t know. Please. Is it a figment of my imagination thy he generally would park on the southeast corner of 5th and Willow? That as soon as the line of customers was down served, he would turn the music back on to try to attract more customers? That I had to write to my councilman to complain? I have not live there for two years. But the spring time when you wanted to throw open your windows was miserable as I listened to his truck engines rev and misc play. Why else would I know the ordinance about trucks? About how they are supposed to move when done serving the last person in line? That the ordinance outlaws amplified music and actually even dictates the size of the bells they may use to attract customers? I would look this up so that a couple years later in could complain on a website about the ice cream guy?! Maybe your conspiracy theory comments need to be at the bottom of the chemtrail article instead of this one.[/quote]

      • briank says:

        The bus is not in violation of any ordinances or laws. Blaring music while parked illegally for hours on end is illegal. All I asked was that the guy kill the music and/or move to a different location on the park every now and then. But he was a d!ck and unreasonable. [quote comment=”220571″]So let me get this straight, you most likely lived in the building on 5th and Willow with a daycare center in it that is only about 6 years old as it used to be a bank and parking lot. However, the ice cream truck has been there for well over 10 years.When you decide to open your windows, you expect silence because it is too loud. How about calling the police about noise complaints? Seems you forgot to mention that fact in your post.I used to live by a bus stop, should I write to NJ Transit and complain about their mufflers because they were so loud that on my days off it would wake me up if I wanted to sleep in?You bought by a park, did you really expect peace and quiet?[/quote]

      • animal_lover says:

        Never mind my question on a prior post…I see your lack of reasoning ability.[quote comment=”220571″]So let me get this straight, you most likely lived in the building on 5th and Willow with a daycare center in it that is only about 6 years old as it used to be a bank and parking lot. However, the ice cream truck has been there for well over 10 years.When you decide to open your windows, you expect silence because it is too loud. How about calling the police about noise complaints? Seems you forgot to mention that fact in your post.I used to live by a bus stop, should I write to NJ Transit and complain about their mufflers because they were so loud that on my days off it would wake me up if I wanted to sleep in?You bought by a park, did you really expect peace and quiet?[/quote]

  15. nbm3 says:

    Even something as innocent as the ice cream truck has come to scrutiny in todays day, what a shame. Lets leave the icecream truck and the little kids it does serve alone. I still remember the jingle of the Mister Softee Truck coming down the block. The hard part was scoring the dollar bill from your mom to let you go buy the cone.

  16. realstuff says:

    Warning! Failure to stop – 4 pts. NJ drivers lic. – desert trucks-their stop signs are the real st real stuff!

  17. realstuff says:

    Warning! Failure to stop – 4 pts. NJ drivers lic. – desert trucks-their stop signs are the real st real stuff!

  18. jerseyd33 says:

    I grew up in this town and have enjoyed Mr.Softee (AKA Tony) for many years. His truck is the cleanest out of all of them. I will not go to any other truck beside him. The original comment posted about “beef about ice cream trucks” is utterly ridiculous. Mr.Softee and the other trucks are trying to make a living. This is their livelhood, however, Mr.Softee (AKA Tony) has been here the longest, and I am sick and tired of people complaining about the noise, especially at 3pm in the afternoon. I understand if it was at 1am? but seriously 3pm? Children are playing in the park, screaming, laughing, and their voices will become louder once school is out. Leave Mr.Softee alone!!! Some of the new people in this town, along with some of our new representatives, are trying to take away anything old about Hoboken and its history. Mr. Softee (AKA Tony) has been serving this community for over 30 years. This is Hoboken History and it should not be destroyed or sent away. This will become a battle so lets get it started!!!!!!

    • Chow says:

      I spoke to Tony and he is asking people to sign a petition to protect him.

      From the photograph it appears that Arseny lives above O’Nieal’s. I wonder if O’Nieal’s is the one complaining because when its customers sit outside and eat it is pretty loud.

      However, the truck IS NOT illegally parked. He has a permit to park where he is parked. Whoever complained about the noise VOLUNTARILY moved into a building adjacent to a park. It is a place where people gather.

      This past weekend I saw an older couple actually complaining loudly to each other how noisy the playground was during the day.

      ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!![quote comment=”220542″]I grew up in this town and have enjoyed Mr.Softee (AKA Tony) for many years. His truck is the cleanest out of all of them. I will not go to any other truck beside him. The original comment posted about “beef about ice cream trucks” is utterly ridiculous. Mr.Softee and the other trucks are trying to make a living. This is their livelhood, however, Mr.Softee (AKA Tony) has been here the longest, and I am sick and tired of people complaining about the noise, especially at 3pm in the afternoon. I understand if it was at 1am? but seriously 3pm? Children are playing in the park, screaming, laughing, and their voices will become louder once school is out. Leave Mr.Softee alone!!! Some of the new people in this town, along with some of our new representatives, are trying to take away anything old about Hoboken and its history. Mr. Softee (AKA Tony) has been serving this community for over 30 years. This is Hoboken History and it should not be destroyed or sent away. This will become a battle so lets get it started!!!!!![/quote]

      • joey maxim says:

        Chow someone always has to pee in the playground sandbox..Bose sells earphones for the grouchy ones that forgot when they were kds..ABSURD IS RIGHT. 😉 [quote comment=”220547″]I spoke to Tony and he is asking people to sign a petition to protect him.From the photograph it appears that Arseny lives above O’Nieal’s. I wonder if O’Nieal’s is the one complaining because when its customers sit outside and eat it is pretty loud.However, the truck IS NOT illegally parked. He has a permit to park where he is parked. Whoever complained about the noise VOLUNTARILY moved into a building adjacent to a park. It is a place where people gather.This past weekend I saw an older couple actually complaining loudly to each other how noisy the playground was during the day.ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

  19. homeworld says:

    What about the multiple “doggie” icecream trucks that only sell icecream treats for dogs? They idle in front of the parks, as well.

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