Dave Roberts’ beach house floats away!

Dave Roberts Mantaloking home to be demolished

Did you know that Hurricane Sandy created two new permanent inlets in Mantaloking, NJ where roads and homes once existed?

Regardless – former Hoboken Mayor Dave Roberts home on Lyman Street still remains 200 feet from the shore, and is set to finally be demolished on Thursday, May 2, 2013.

Wonder who his builder was? Amazing that it not only withstood the storm without collapsing, but managed to stay in the water this long!

Former Hoboken Mayor Roberts beach house trashed by Sandy

12/20/2012:

Hoboken had it bad from Hurricane Sandy, without a doubt. And you know the flooding damage from our outdated sewage system was bound to happen (all while the city focuses more on bike lanes and playground equipment.)

But other areas were affected quite badly – including Mantoloking – where former Hoboken Mayor David Roberts had a shore home. His property was essentially relocated to the middle of the bay!

Hurricane Sandy “redevelops” Mantoloking, NJ

Mantoloking Mayor George Nebel had this to say about the aftermath in their city:

“There is little question that this October storm is the most damaging Mantoloking has ever experienced. A walk through town shortly after the storm revealed two locations where the ocean had broken through the beach, leveled houses in its path, and created new inlets from the ocean to the bay. These new inlets are at Lyman Street and Herbert Street – both areas where roads previously extended from the ocean to the bay.

At least 20 houses on the beach are gone and just as many in inland areas. Most roads are covered with sand and debris and there is still water standing in many low-lying areas.

The most serious damage has been sustained at and near the new inlets. A few areas such as Lagoon Lane and Runyon Lane have been, relatively speaking, spared.”

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13 Comments on "Dave Roberts’ beach house floats away!"


Member
2 years 8 months ago

The story I heard was that the homes that floated away had a crawl space and they had filled that crawl space with spray foam insulation.

See the FEMA SAT Maps here. You can see the house clearly in the bay if you zoom in to Lyman St in Mantoloking.

http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/

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2 years 8 months ago

It’s amazing how many current and former elected officials have beach homes in Mantoloking, Point Pleasant, etc. on their “supposed” incomes. Sweet justice Roberts made his money over the years taking kick backs to buy this house, so I am glad it floated away. I wonder who he will try to hit up now to pay for this damage. He probably has a connection at FEMA which will fast track his quarter-half a million settlement.

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2 years 8 months ago

The flooding we had in Hoboken wasn’t from the sewer system. There was a 11+ foot storm surge in the Hudson River. Unless you install a tsunami wall around Hoboken you’re not stopping that. We could have the most modern sanitary sewer system in the world and it wouldn’t have made a difference during Sandy.

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joey maxim
2 years 8 months ago

been like that for the past 300 years according to historical records…forget the 150 year
old claiming hoboken as a town..It was delt with all these years and water will always seek its level…What amaizes me is the many seniors who applied for that 100.00 voucher from an unknown donater as far as i was told..if food became stagnet and rotten ok but there are so many that weren’s affected by the storm..un fair to those that really needed
the help from fema…give the mayor credit for lobbying for assistance..basement apts took the worst hits but those up in high rise apts out of power but so were we all and we found a way…One can’t reside in this town below sea level and blaim who ever..again water seeks its level regardless of storm drains and 10 pumps…we deal it and come together as bnr and new comers…
merry chrismas and happy holidays..it is what it is..[quote comment=”218768″]The flooding we had in Hoboken wasn’t from the sewer system. There was a 11+ foot storm surge in the Hudson River. Unless you install a tsunami wall around Hoboken you’re not stopping that. We could have the most modern sanitary sewer system in the world and it wouldn’t have made a difference during Sandy.[/quote]

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2 years 8 months ago

re: “The flooding we had in Hoboken wasn’t from the sewer system”

The flooding on corner of 14th and Hudson St started coming up from the manholes and sewers and not over the waterfront walkways. I have a video of it, as I was out observing as the storm as it progressed.

In other parts of the town that may not be the case but initially the water came up from the manholes uptown.

[quote comment=”218768″]The flooding we had in Hoboken wasn’t from the sewer system. There was a 11+ foot storm surge in the Hudson River. Unless you install a tsunami wall around Hoboken you’re not stopping that. We could have the most modern sanitary sewer system in the world and it wouldn’t have made a difference during Sandy.[/quote]

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Downtown
2 years 8 months ago

Yip Yap – the water coming up through the manholes is from the storm Surge. Once the Hudson river water level rises above our (hoboken) land level the water will come up or over or any way it can into the city. 14th and Hudson is a low lying area so it does make sense that you had flooding over there. [quote comment=”218774″]re: “The flooding we had in Hoboken wasn’t from the sewer system”The flooding on corner of 14th and Hudson St started coming up from the manholes and sewers and not over the waterfront walkways. I have a video of it, as I was out observing as the storm as it progressed.In other parts of the town that may not be the case but initially the water came up from the manholes uptown.[/quote]

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2 years 8 months ago

Yes it was… I have photos of pilings from old Hudson River piers all the way back on Jefferson and 9th. They floated there from the water that flowed down 15th street near the location of the sail boat that came over the banks of the Hudson River and onto the waterfront walkway. That didn’t come up through the catch basins and manholes.

In the south, the surge came right up over the Long Slip Canal and down Marin Blvd based on eye-witnesses. [quote comment=”218777″]It’s because of the combined outflow sewer system. If we didn’t have that – the areas in low-lying sections would not have flooded nearly as bad.. wasn’t like a giant wave came over the banks of the Hudson and made it to the back of town and seeped in through the doors. Basically we’re directly connected to the river.[/quote]

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Gavriel
2 years 8 months ago

Explain the water coming out of the toilets before the streets flooded. Explain the 99 previous floods when the river didn’t surge over. Your logic is flawed. You must be a property owner looking to get out before the market tanks even further.[quote comment=”218778″]Yes it was… I have photos of pilings from old Hudson River piers all the way back on Jefferson and 9th. They floated there from the water that flowed down 15th street near the location of the sail boat that came over the banks of the Hudson River and onto the waterfront walkway. That didn’t come up through the catch basins and manholes.In the south, the surge came right up over the Long Slip Canal and down Marin Blvd based on eye-witnesses.[/quote]

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joey maxim
2 years 8 months ago

simple logic ..you opted to live in this town with no knowledge of the town below sea level .i blaim real estate out to make a buck…instead of worring of the crime element the
greedy realitors should have took out a grid and showed the water levels on the west side of the town..never has the north west end been so damaged and cars destroyed..just dont go to a used car lot next year unless you ask for the car fax.not put ,realistic…it is what it is..Not a good town to plan a family and invest in a home below willow ave..I pray u all have a joyess holiday and the worst is over..[quote comment=”218779″]Explain the water coming out of the toilets before the streets flooded. Explain the 99 previous floods when the river didn’t surge over. Your logic is flawed. You must be a property owner looking to get out before the market tanks even further.[/quote]

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showme789
2 years 8 months ago

Joey, I try my best to refrain from commenting here, but sometimes it hurts to be so quiet. Have you ever read your posts before hitting the “reply” button? The amount of typos and grammatical errors in your responses are painful on the eyes and insulting to the brain. Please, for the love of God, learn how to use spell check. If there is any amount of truth in your postings, the message is lost in the translation. Merry Christmas![quote comment=”218836″]simple logic ..you opted to live in this town with no knowledge of the town below sea level .i blaim real estate out to make a buck…instead of worring of the crime element the greedy realitors should have took out a grid and showed the water levels on the west side of the town..never has the north west end been so damaged and cars destroyed..just dont go to a used car lot next year unless you ask for the car fax.not put ,realistic…it is what it is..Not a good town to plan a family and invest in a home below willow ave..I pray u all have a joyess holiday and the worst is over..[/quote]

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joey maxim
2 years 8 months ago

sorry grammer professor..Do my best to use spell check..God has nothing to do with typos and or grammatical errors..It;s not so much the amount of truth in my posts more than condescending comments from some those that look for the fly chit in the pepper.so sorry you find it hard to post here..Try and overlook the flaws in not only my posts but the grammatical errors of others who attempt to post their opinions..btw Christmas to you and family..[quote comment=”218845″]Joey, I try my best to refrain from commenting here, but sometimes it hurts to be so quiet. Have you ever read your posts before hitting the “reply” button? The amount of typos and grammatical errors in your responses are painful on the eyes and insulting to the brain. Please, for the love of God, learn how to use spell check. If there is any amount of truth in your postings, the message is lost in the translation. Merry Christmas![/quote]

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2 years 8 months ago

There is a difference between fluvial and tidal flooding. The typical flooding in Hoboken is fluvial from rainfall and is mostly freshwater that backs up Hoboken’s antiquated combined sewer system since even stormwater has to get treated here in Hoboken.

The Sandy flooding was salt water because it was the result of tidal storm surge that overtopped the waterfront. That’s why the traffic lights were out for so long in the southwest part of Hoboken. The traffic controllers that normally get flooded with fresh water from rain-caused flooding dry out and work again afterwards. However, this time they were flooded with corrosive salt water and had to be completely replaced.

We only had about 2.5” of rain from Sandy, far less than Irene where we had almost 10” of rain. Yes, the combined sewer system exacerbated the problem because once an area starts to flood, that flood water enters the sewage system, but the combined sewer system wasn’t the cause of the massive flooding; the storm surge was. Thankfully we didn’t get the predicted rainfall during Sandy, because if we did, we’d have had at least another foot on top of what we got.
[quote comment=”218779″]Explain the water coming out of the toilets before the streets flooded. Explain the 99 previous floods when the river didn’t surge over. Your logic is flawed. You must be a property owner looking to get out before the market tanks even further.[/quote]