Was the Light Rail botched too?

Violence a regular occurrence at Hoboken Light Rail stations

Hoboken411 reader Joe captured an idiotic bout of violence over at the 9th Street / Congress NJ Transit Light Rail station in Hoboken.

While these may have just been “juveniles,” and were apparently fighting amongst themselves – today’s “juveniles” are certainly much more brazen and violent than days past. Drugs, weapons and a socially connected flash-mob mentality that seems to get worse each time I hear about it – up to and including murder and other senseless crimes.

The key question at hand here is, that Hoboken at one point had the opportunity to have the Light Rail closer to the waterfront (like they do in Jersey City), but chose to have it in the back-end of town.

Do you think if this transportation system was located elsewhere, much of our crime that exists in Hoboken today could have been prevented?

7 Responses

  1. cptpappy says:

    Look I live right there and without that train my commute is a nightmare…..that was right after the storm I believe, two girls getting into it……get on the train at Newport or a couple of earlier stops and ask if you feel safe on the train itself. Ask some of the people in Bayonne about the 8th, 22nd 32nd and 42nd st. stops and read the police blogs from those stops……..

    How about the idiot bar owners with no power/lights in town and the bars open? Yeah, leave your daughters walk the streets with the drunk a-holes in the dark, as bad if not worse than say St. Patty’s day. How about the D-bags that broke into the Willow Pharmacy….do you think they took the Lite Rail to rob that store?
    Thats your ‘neighbor’ robbing your ‘neighbor’……

    And if the Lite Rail were closer to the water, how do you think the storm would have affected that?

    • homeworld says:

      Many citizen activist groups (NIMBYs) fought against NJTransit’s plans to have the light rail run along Vezzetti Way (next to Observery Highway) to a station that would be out in front of Hoboken Terminal near where the Bus Terminal is. Then the tracks would have gone down River Street to Sinatra and then down Hudson Street on its way to Weehawken. This would have made the Hoboken Terminal station a lot more useful, because it wouldn’t have been a dead-end stub station.

      This is similar to how the Light Rail operates in the street near Exchange Place and Essex Street in Jersey City.

      I think a good happy medium would have been if Willow Ave was used for the ROW (obviously parking would have had to been removed.) That would have benefited the most amount of residents. But I guess using the freight train rail ROW was the cheapest solution and it helped spur development on the western area of the city.
      [quote comment=”218273″]Look I live right there and without that train my commute is a nightmare…..that was right after the storm I believe, two girls getting into it……get on the train at Newport or a couple of earlier stops and ask if you feel safe on the train itself. Ask some of the people in Bayonne about the 8th, 22nd 32nd and 42nd st. stops and read the police blogs from those stops……..How about the idiot bar owners with no power/lights in town and the bars open? Yeah, leave your daughters walk the streets with the drunk a-holes in the dark, as bad if not worse than say St. Patty’s day. How about the D-bags that broke into the Willow Pharmacy….do you think they took the Lite Rail to rob that store? Thats your ‘neighbor’ robbing your ‘neighbor’……And if the Lite Rail were closer to the water, how do you think the storm would have affected that?[/quote]

  2. Chow says:

    Ghetto Trash just being ghetto. Let them kill themselves. That whole area of town is crap…they build the light rail on the cheap land because the nice neighborhoods don’t want crap like that loitering on their block.

  3. Civic66 says:

    Without the lightrail, the western edge of the city would have terrible commutes to Hoboken Terminal. The problem is the elevator that connects the station to Jersey City Heights. Perhaps NJ Transit, Hoboken and Jersey City need cops that patrol this area a little more frequently. Even a full-time security guard at the Monroe Center might be able to deter things like this from happening

  4. HOB424 says:

    Definitely. This really should be called “Crime Rail” . The 9th street station is a quick escape back to J.C. Going past Newport or Exchange Place is a risk.

    • HansBrix says:

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      [quote comment=”218286″]Definitely. This really should be called “Crime Rail” . The 9th street station is a quick escape back to J.C. Going past Newport or Exchange Place is a risk.[/quote]

  5. jgriffo1 says:

    I recall protesters standing outside the PATH station handing out fliers encouraging voters to keep the Light Rail away from the waterfront and on the west end of town. The decision to route it to the west side of town was made under the corrupt Anthony Russo administration. Who knows what even forced their hand to cave to opposition?

    Either way, those that are upset about where the Light Rail is should consider that there was a vocal bunch of citizens in town who made it clear this is what they wanted.

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