2012 Presidential Election

2012 Presidential Debate Prep – MSM alternatives

Has the mainstream media (MSM) ever been completely honest and trustworthy with the information they disseminate to the masses?

I’m not so sure there was ever a time like that, but judging by what is happening here in 2012 – it seems like the MSM is trying harder than ever to “shape” public opinion, than they are “reporting” what is actually happening in the world.

With that being said, and I hope that most of you can see through the BS game that the “big networks” are playing in regards to domestic and international issues.

And I’m not going to get into the various endgame scenarios that are possible, but rather suggest some reading material to peruse prior to the various Presidential debates scheduled for this month.

Most of the stories you’ll read on these sites will not be covered in the MSM.

Recommended Reading

  • Newsbusters.org – They are diligent in uncovering the slanted reporting from the liberal media, and post several dozen stories daily. A must read.
  • Zerohedge.com – Mainly financial, but they shine light on many global economic issues – as well as domestic and foreign policy.
  • The Ulsterman Report – A very interesting political site, with supposed “insider” information. Apparently a lot of the stuff they published in the past – saw the light of day a year later… you’d have to read back into the archives to get up to speed.
  • Drudge Report – Most of you probably know about this, or have the app. But they do a great job aggregating the headlines – as well as frequently publish OLD stories that may contradict what certain individuals have recently said. A quick and easy way to get a pulse on what’s going on in the world.

It’s kind of concerning when it becomes very hard to trust the messages out there, and frustrating to think about how many people in this country actually take it at face value. Here’s an interesting speech given last month by Patrick Caddell, a former Democratic Pollster – who says that Mainstream media is threatening our country’s future:”

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule

  1. October 3rd @ 9pm (Presidential – topic: Domestic Policy)
  2. October 11th @ 9pm (Vice Presidential – topic: Domestic and Foreign Policy)
  3. October 16th @ 9pm (Presidential “Town Meeting” – topic: Domestic and Foreign Policy)
  4. October 22nd @ 9pm (Presidential – topic: Foreign Policy)

If none of this matters to you – then you might as well get helplessly drunk with other sheeple during the first Presidential debate.

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Mitch Ultimato
2 years 10 months ago

You want to know why some of us are voting for Obama? Here are some reasons:

This list has appeared on many different blogs. Not sure who first posted it.

(1) Dow up from 6,843 to 13,367 (with the advent of Bush’s failed economic policies, Dow dropped nearly 8,000 points);

(2) unemployment slowing, 4.4 million jobs created (8 years of Bush: earned interest rate drops to near zero, unemployment surpasses 8.9%, economy hemorrhages 760,000 jobs per month, number of attacks on diplomatic outpost highest since 1979);

(3) steady GDP growth,

(4) ended DADT over a year ago, and none of conservatives fears materialized;

(5) middleclass payroll/income tax at all-time low, generating an additional $3600 in disposable income per middleclass family;

(6) 47 million Americans now have health insurance (America spends 17.6% of GNP on healthcare but ranks 50th in life expectancy; Canada has single payor system, spends 9.4%, and ranks in the top 15);

(7) government spending down 9.8% (Bush increased government spending by 38%, turning Clinton surplus into $11.6 trillion deficit – 20 year projected price tag for Bush deficit: $34 trillion);

(8) Wall Street institutions deemed “to big to fail” once again solvent, but – at the urging of Republicans – have refused small business access to $3 trillion in disposable investment capital;

(9) US border guards tripled to 24,000;

(10) 17 tax cuts equaling $671 billion for small business owners (Grover Norquist – de facto leader of the Republican Party – supports tax cuts for corporations, not small businesses or middleclass families);

(11) Detroit resurrected, saving 1 million auto industry jobs – GM regains status as world auto leader;

(12) 19,000 manufacturing plants reopened (because of Bush’s dreadful economic policies, 60,000 manufacturing plants padlocked, resulting in loss of 8.4 million jobs); and

(13) Osama eliminated, Al-Qaeda command structure decimated (Bush’s resolve to prosecute the “war on terror” faltered, allowing Al-Qaeda to reconstitute, setting the stage for Osama to escape to Pakistan).

So, is America better off now than 4 years ago? Of course, especially when viewed from the perspective that Obama received no help from John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, or Paul Ryan.

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HansBrix
2 years 10 months ago

Just a few comments:

1. Bush isn’t running
2. Bush isn’t running
3. Very tepid GDP growth that keeps being revised downward
6. If the USA had Canada’s demographics it could be equally successful with a Canadian HC system. But it doesn’t so it won’t.
7. The president does not control spending and has very limited control over deficits and surpluses – this is civics 101. I continue to be amazed at how many people still say “Clinton surplus.” Plus a lot of the surplus was due to fleeting revenues from a false tech bubble economy.
12. Bush isn’t running
13. Bush isnt running

Saying Obama is better than Bush is a non sequitur. Yeah Bush was marginally qualified and only got the job because who his father was. Then again the same is true for BHO.[quote comment=”217439″]You want to know why some of us are voting for Obama? Here are some reasons:This list has appeared on many different blogs. Not sure who first posted it.(1) Dow up from 6,843 to 13,367 (with the advent of Bush’s failed economic policies, Dow dropped nearly 8,000 points);(2) unemployment slowing, 4.4 million jobs created (8 years of Bush: earned interest rate drops to near zero, unemployment surpasses 8.9%, economy hemorrhages 760,000 jobs per month, number of attacks on diplomatic outpost highest since 1979);(3) steady GDP growth,(4) ended DADT over a year ago, and none of conservatives fears materialized;(5) middleclass payroll/income tax at all-time low, generating an additional $3600 in disposable income per middleclass family;(6) 47 million Americans now have health insurance (America spends 17.6% of GNP on healthcare but ranks 50th in life expectancy; Canada has single payor system, spends 9.4%, and ranks in the top 15);(7) government spending down 9.8% (Bush increased government spending by 38%, turning Clinton surplus into $11.6 trillion deficit – 20 year projected price tag for Bush deficit: $34 trillion);(8) Wall Street institutions deemed “to big to fail” once again solvent, but – at the urging of Republicans – have refused small business access to $3 trillion in disposable investment capital;(9) US border guards tripled to 24,000;(10) 17 tax cuts equaling $671 billion for small business owners (Grover Norquist – de facto leader of the Republican Party – supports tax cuts for corporations, not small businesses or middleclass families);(11) Detroit resurrected, saving 1 million auto industry jobs – GM regains status as world auto leader;(12) 19,000 manufacturing plants reopened (because of Bush’s dreadful economic policies, 60,000 manufacturing plants padlocked, resulting in loss of 8.4 million jobs); and(13) Osama eliminated, Al-Qaeda command structure decimated (Bush’s resolve to prosecute the “war on terror” faltered, allowing Al-Qaeda to reconstitute, setting the stage for Osama to escape to Pakistan).So, is America better off now than 4 years ago? Of course, especially when viewed from the perspective that Obama received no help from John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, or Paul Ryan.[/quote]

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Mitch Ultimato
2 years 10 months ago

Oh, and let me add one more: Osama bin Laden–dead. [quote comment=”217439″]You want to know why some of us are voting for Obama? Here are some reasons:This list has appeared on many different blogs. Not sure who first posted it.(1) Dow up from 6,843 to 13,367 (with the advent of Bush’s failed economic policies, Dow dropped nearly 8,000 points);(2) unemployment slowing, 4.4 million jobs created (8 years of Bush: earned interest rate drops to near zero, unemployment surpasses 8.9%, economy hemorrhages 760,000 jobs per month, number of attacks on diplomatic outpost highest since 1979);(3) steady GDP growth,(4) ended DADT over a year ago, and none of conservatives fears materialized;(5) middleclass payroll/income tax at all-time low, generating an additional $3600 in disposable income per middleclass family;(6) 47 million Americans now have health insurance (America spends 17.6% of GNP on healthcare but ranks 50th in life expectancy; Canada has single payor system, spends 9.4%, and ranks in the top 15);(7) government spending down 9.8% (Bush increased government spending by 38%, turning Clinton surplus into $11.6 trillion deficit – 20 year projected price tag for Bush deficit: $34 trillion);(8) Wall Street institutions deemed “to big to fail” once again solvent, but – at the urging of Republicans – have refused small business access to $3 trillion in disposable investment capital;(9) US border guards tripled to 24,000;(10) 17 tax cuts equaling $671 billion for small business owners (Grover Norquist – de facto leader of the Republican Party – supports tax cuts for corporations, not small businesses or middleclass families);(11) Detroit resurrected, saving 1 million auto industry jobs – GM regains status as world auto leader;(12) 19,000 manufacturing plants reopened (because of Bush’s dreadful economic policies, 60,000 manufacturing plants padlocked, resulting in loss of 8.4 million jobs); and(13) Osama eliminated, Al-Qaeda command structure decimated (Bush’s resolve to prosecute the “war on terror” faltered, allowing Al-Qaeda to reconstitute, setting the stage for Osama to escape to Pakistan).So, is America better off now than 4 years ago? Of course, especially when viewed from the perspective that Obama received no help from John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, or Paul Ryan.[/quote]

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xxrjxx
2 years 10 months ago

Are you serious? The fact that he even had to question whether to pull the trigger should disqualify him. You’re giving Obama credit for a no-brainer? Please. You just shot your credibility.[quote comment=”217440″]Oh, and let me add one more: Osama bin Laden–dead.[/quote]

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joey maxim
2 years 10 months ago

not to bust your bubble, if the former navy seal is correct,a female cia head planned most of
the operation to get bin laden..All the KIA military searching in afgan only to find that
this dog was in pakistan…This country that the usa sends billions betrayed the USA
and in the process lost many mothers sons in these search and destroy missions.Regardless of
how many Al qaeda is killed they have tons of offspring growing up to carry the fight.
You can kill the man ,but not the cause..time for obama to bring our troops home then
obama has my vote…

[quote comment=”217440″]Oh, and let me add one more: Osama bin Laden–dead.[/quote]

Member
2 years 10 months ago

The next sound you hear is the secret service knocking on your door, big brother will read your comment and act.[quote comment=”217440″]Oh, and let me add one more: Osama bin Laden–dead.[/quote]

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LimaEchoEcho
2 years 10 months ago

anyone know of any debate watch parties in town aside from marty o’s and hoboken bar and grill?… Does everything in this town have to be about the yankees and the giants!?

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LimaEchoEcho
2 years 10 months ago

Here are some of the watch parties in the area for tonight’s debate. While the debate begins at 9:00 p.m., the festivities start much earlier.

Mayor Healy’s Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., Brightside Tavern, 141 Bright St., Jersey City

Fulop’s Jersey City Westside Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., the Park Tavern, 575 West Side Ave., Jersey City

Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer’s Watch Party: 8 p.m., Marty O’Brien’s, 94 Bloomfield St., Hoboken

Jersey City Education Association GOTV: 6:30 p.m., JCEA Headquarters, 1600 Kennedy Blvd., Jersey City

Drinking Liberally Watch Party: 7 p.m., Hoboken Bar & Grill, 230 Washington St., Hoboken

Bayonne for Obama Watch Party: 8 p.m., 23 Maritime Way, Bayonne

Obama Watch Party: 8 p.m., Nostalgia Cafe, 409 Martin Luther King Drive, Jersey City

St. Peter’s University Watch Party: 8:30 p.m., MacIntyre Lounge, Kennedy Boulevard and Montgomery Street

Hudson County Republican Club Watch party: 8:30 p.m., Golden Cicada Tavern, 195 Grand St., Jersey City.[quote comment=”217435″]anyone know of any debate watch parties in town aside from marty o’s and hoboken bar and grill?… Does everything in this town have to be about the yankees and the giants!?[/quote]

Member
2 years 10 months ago

Here’s how I would structure the contest.

All candidates come with deck of cards printed all spending programs the federal government currently funds, and those the candidates propose as new that they wish to add to the currently $16,000,000,000,000 (trillion) national debt. The moderator shuffles the decks and hands them to candidates. Each candidate, one at a time, then licks the back of the card and sticks it to their forehead. The other candidates then can help them guess what it is or lie to them. That blind candidate then decides whether to “Keep-or-Cut” the program. The candidate with the least amount of cards wins. The others automatically concede. The elections are a mere American Idol popularity contest as it actually really is.

Member
2 years 10 months ago

There was a last minute debate change apparently they have added a new twist, both candidates must now debate in their best southern accent. 😆

Member
2 years 10 months ago

As with the local Hoboken elections, all these candidates promise this and that and end up being the third of *three kinds of people in the world (*see Team America: bar scene).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cV_q-mVAAA

Whether you’re a D or a P, it’s all the same. They keep promising to do more and more on top of a mountain of crap, but it’s just another turd of debt.

If only both locally and federally, government began campaigning on what little they will do in terms of spending so that we impossibly avoid fiscal suicide of $16 trillion towards $23 trill without the frill. What will the candidates promise us that won’t force us to buy from corporations as a mandate so that they can guarantee huge bonuses for 100% market share cronyism?

D’s always F things up, P’s are always codependent accessories to the crime, and those in office always have a record of BS.