Bikes are a minority in Hoboken

Why does Hoboken pander to the biking minority?

When you think about it – Hoboken is quite an “ancient” city built a very long time ago, before street widths were a serious concern and various modes of transportation had even been invented yet.

Hoboken is also very tight – the 4th densest city in New Jersey (we’re not talking about government administrations, though).

At a mere 1.3 miles square, and 50,000 people (who took the census – real number probably closer to 60k at this point), their cars, cabs, buses – plus pedestrian traffic (commuters and visitors), trains and subways – to try and FORCE additional transportation methods (read: bikes) – may just be a pie in the sky dream that is NOT practical!

You can’t practically re-design Hoboken to be truly bike-friendly

Don’t get me wrong. Where appropriate – some bike lanes DO make sense.

You need proper conditions, road width and more to make bike lanes work – not trying to squeeze a square peg in a round hole.

In Hoboken, those proper conditions are far and few between – have you seen some of these lanes we have? On TIGHT, narrow streets – close to parked cars, and totally ridiculous. Our city was just not made for cars and bikes to perfectly co-exist. What is so hard to accept about that?

What if we had a chance to re-design Hoboken from scratch? Sure – then it can be done. But to desperately try to retrofit our city like this will not turn out well in the long run. And why so much effort in the first place? Who is clamoring for it?

Less than 0.5% use bikes to commute in Hoboken

The other day – I was curious to see how many bikes were locked up down by the PATH station after the morning rush hour. I counted 240 bikes. And this includes people from surrounding cities (like many kitchen workers who come in via bike), as well as abandoned cycles. That considered, it’s probably less than 200 Hoboken residents that bike to the PATH daily. Out of a population of 50k or more.

Why so much effort for such an overwhelming minority??

Stop wasting time coddling bikers, and leave the risk up to them

I personally dislike when the government starts getting overly involved with every aspect of our lives.

These bike lanes, Hertz on Demand cars, and everything else.

Then the associated laws, penalties and more that come along, just add more bureaucracy to an already bloated political system. Not to mention potential litigation. Enough already!

If I were Mayor?

Strip all the bike lanes out. Emphatically state that YOU BIKE IN HOBOKEN AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Much bigger problems – infrastructure, crime, roads, bloated city payrolls, and more important quality of life issues than bike lane paint for so few people.

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31 Comments on "Bikes are a minority in Hoboken"


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HomeTeam
2 years 10 months ago

Looked like they were removing the fire lane this morning outside of Texas/Arizona to turn it into bike racks. Seems like a safe thing to do.

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Sphynx
2 years 10 months ago

There are bikes that I have seen parked inside of gates all the time, and they are still there. 4 on my block alone.

How you lock is important. Inside a garage gives the thief something they don’t have a the street, privacy while they break your lock.

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YouStayCl@ssyHoboken
2 years 10 months ago

Need a bike valet operation. Nobody who cares for a nice bicycle would leave it chained up outside all day somewhere like the termainal where it can be stolen or vandalized.

Member
2 years 10 months ago

ianmac47 wrote in response to me: “Sometimes cars run stop lights or stop signs. Should we ban all cars because of the bad behavior of a few? Sometimes I see people jaywalking in the street. Obviously, if we just banned pedestrians, that wouldn’t be a problem either.”

MR: You’re using a straw man fallacy to respond to the idea cyclists should be licensed. If cars, trucks, SUV’s, and motorcycles are licensed to use the same roads as cyclists, why not cyclists, unless you really enjoy your Animal Farm entitlements. See the point I make? I put a fraction of individual responsibility on you, and you react with a fallacy and say no, not me, make the government do it, but not me. Nanny + state = whaaa(t)?

ianmac47 continues: “Bike lanes aren’t there for bikers. Bike lanes are there because of drivers, bad drivers who speed, who pass bicyclists dangerously, drivers who illegally double park.”

MR: See last sentence of post #23. To which magical powers to you expect from thick white paint that fantastically alters the motivation of car drivers? If you decide to ride motorcycles, there are no magical lines to buffer you from instant scrambled eggs, same applies to cyclists. Self Responsibility doesn’t have to be a lost ancient language the Progressive® mind cannot comprehend.

ianmac47’s epic fail-safe vault response: “Rant against a low cost safety enhancement all you want, that’s your prerogative. And when it comes up posted on this site, its obviously a subtle jab at the Zimmer administration. But you know what, you kind of sound like a foolish old man”

MR: I beg your pardon, I neither sound nor look (especially) anything like you.

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Sphynx
2 years 10 months ago

How wide are the east/west streets in Hoboken?

Take a look at what the state has to say about biking.

http://www.nj.gov/transportation/commuter/bike/faqs.shtm

How would any of you react to a bicyclist taking the lane a discribed?