Temporary No Parking Sign Debacle

Can the Hoboken Temporary Police Regulation system be improved?

You see them every day of your life around Hoboken: Temporary Police Regulation signs. Whether for public service work, construction, and even moving trucks – these signs are all over town.

But the method of putting them up (packing tape to a sign, tree, wall or fence) is not without problems… they can fall off (or some mischievous kids or drunks can just tear them down). Hoboken411 reader Carley and four other drivers had an anger-inducing event last week:

“My car was towed due to temporary no parking signs that were never posted. We parked the car Monday evening, 9/10, and according to HPU the signs had been up since Friday 9/7. There were never any signs posted and 5 cars were towed from the same place and time as mine. I am beyond angry and out $200…”

Can you think of a way to improve this system at little or no cost? Should drivers check their cars once or twice a day? Or should there be a way to notify residents?

6 Responses

  1. briank says:

    This is the same system used all over Hudson County. I don’t really know of a better way of doing things. My advice to all residents- make sure that the HPU has your cell phone number on file with your sticker. I have used the signs for moving, and have seen contractors use the sign in my neighborhood, and each time the HPU checks the sticker number and calls the owner to move the car before calling in a tow truck. If you don’t have a cell phone on file for that sticker, you are out of luck. And if you don’t have a sticker, I have no sympathy- pay the $25 and get your sticker.

    • homeworld says:

      Simply not true. My car was towed from in front of my apartment when I had parked where there was Temporary No Parking Signs incorrectly placed. I could have moved the car within 30 seconds if they called or knocked, but they did neither. [quote comment=”217145″]This is the same system used all over Hudson County. I don’t really know of a better way of doing things. My advice to all residents- make sure that the HPU has your cell phone number on file with your sticker. I have used the signs for moving, and have seen contractors use the sign in my neighborhood, and each time the HPU checks the sticker number and calls the owner to move the car before calling in a tow truck. If you don’t have a cell phone on file for that sticker, you are out of luck. And if you don’t have a sticker, I have no sympathy- pay the $25 and get your sticker.[/quote]

      • YouStayCl@ssyHoboken says:

        Same here–an HPU supervisor told me that they make an effort to contact vehicle owners but that there is no requirement for them to do so. What I have noticed over the years is that if the City needs your car moved, the police will call you (or you’ll get an automated message to your HPU-registered number for general announcements). If HPU sold a sign to someone who needs your car moved, don’t expect a call.[quote comment=”217152″]Simply not true. My car was towed from in front of my apartment when I had parked where there was Temporary No Parking Signs incorrectly placed. I could have moved the car within 30 seconds if they called or knocked, but they did neither.[/quote]

  2. YouStayCl@ssyHoboken says:

    Temp no-parking signs are handled in different ways by municipalities across the country. Hoboken stands out in a couple of ways: (1) the municipality rather than the contractor/resident is responsible for placing signs, and (2) signs are allowed to be placed on private property outside of the public right of way (gates, fences, trees, etc.)

    HPU’s practices are defective in a number of ways: the City is not responsible for monitoring/maintaining the signs once they have been posted, once placed on private property the signs are not protected by law (so homeowners are within their rights to tear them down), signs are not posted according to common traffic control standards, and missing signs are still enforced as though they were present (and maybe they never were present).

    A concienctious administration/director should address the defects by: maintaining signs through the effective period, notifying residents in advance when contact information is available (i.e., via HPU database), placing signs uniformly in the public right-of-way (existing sign posts, parking meters, utility poles, drums or cones curbside; not trees, fences/gates, etc. or on private property), and making purchasers of the signs responsible for reporting missing or damaged signs–finally, missing signs which have not been reported/corrected within the notification or effective period should not be enforceable.

    Hopefully, the incoming parking director will make this a priority (with some help from H411 to raise awareness).

  3. HansBrix says:

    Twice I’ve paid for temp no parking signs and BOTH times I had to call and get some jackass towed because he didn’t notice the signs that festooned the iron fence in front of the property.

    This makes me believe that a good number of the complainers just didn’t bother to look and notice the obvious.

    • YouStayCl@ssyHoboken says:

      True.. all it takes is a day in municipal court to make a similar observation. The underlying problems remain in part due to that ‘noise’ generated by the clueless/careless ones. If everyone at the complaints window had an intelligible, legitimate complaint, problems would be realized and solved more directly. The court gives away enough ‘freebies’ to those types that legitimate complainants/defendants have a very difficult time finding fair remuneration. The money the city makes from parking violations (legitimate or otherwise) far outweighs the occasional injustices–when measured on the city’s scale.[quote comment=”217158″]Twice I’ve paid for temp no parking signs and BOTH times I had to call and get some jackass towed because he didn’t notice the signs that festooned the iron fence in front of the property.This makes me believe that a good number of the complainers just didn’t bother to look and notice the obvious.[/quote]

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