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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/8382/comment-page-2#comment-46286</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;46273&quot;]How do I join the Hoboken Motorcycle club?  I want the cool patch and leather jacket.  They get a booth every year and look like a good clean group.[/quote]

I asked about membership - they told me I had to cut the muffler off my bike to make it obnoxiously loud, put on (another) 100 pounds, grow an enormous mustache and not wash for a few months.............I&#039;m going to shoot for the 2027 Fall festival when I&#039;m in the correct age bracket and my p&#039;nis has shriveled up.</description>
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<p><u><b>hobokentownie </b>wrote:</u></p>
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How do I join the Hoboken Motorcycle club?  I want the cool patch and leather jacket.  They get a booth every year and look like a good clean group.</p>
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<p>I asked about membership &#8211; they told me I had to cut the muffler off my bike to make it obnoxiously loud, put on (another) 100 pounds, grow an enormous mustache and not wash for a few months&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I&#8217;m going to shoot for the 2027 Fall festival when I&#8217;m in the correct age bracket and my p&#8217;nis has shriveled up.</p>
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		<title>By: hobokentownie</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobokentownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I join the Hoboken Motorcycle club?  I want the cool patch and leather jacket.  They get a booth every year and look like a good clean group.</description>
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		<title>By: ImaTree90</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/8382/comment-page-2#comment-46265</link>
		<dc:creator>ImaTree90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm....here&#039;s the sad truth folks. The Hoboken Arts and Music Fest or &quot;Tube-Sock-Fest&quot; has become completely hypocritical. Of course there&#039;s more junk/crappy stuff and few local artists. Why? because a long time ago,in a galaxy far,far away, artists and musicians could actually AFFORD to live here. Thats why artists and musicians flocked here in abundance,giving the once uninhabital Hoboken it&#039;s amazing reputation for an art and music community. You could actually persue your craft with conviction, whether it was gluing strips of cloth and string over a canvas splattered with an abstract image of Hitler, or playing improvisational reggae-cowboy-alien-jazz music. Not every composition of these sorts was popular,or even palatable. But the fact was you had a very interesting and diverse artistic vibe going on. And out of the weirdness of all this--and being able to have a shitty part time job to support your creativity and still afford to live here-- came some pretty cool and pretty great art and music. 
   Now, if your art/music has no instant commercial/financial viability, it&#039;s just a part-time thing--and it shows---since you must work-work-work just to pay the rent. The once popular reputation of Hoboken being &quot;an artistic and musical&quot; community is a joke,and no more. The Arts &#039;n Music Fest relies soley, and sadly, on a reputation built in the past. For they have priced the the true artist out of town......therefor the &quot;Stretched-coke-bottle-with-colored-sand in it&quot; Fest will never be the same.....but the tube socks ARE cheap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230;.here&#8217;s the sad truth folks. The Hoboken Arts and Music Fest or &#8220;Tube-Sock-Fest&#8221; has become completely hypocritical. Of course there&#8217;s more junk/crappy stuff and few local artists. Why? because a long time ago,in a galaxy far,far away, artists and musicians could actually AFFORD to live here. Thats why artists and musicians flocked here in abundance,giving the once uninhabital Hoboken it&#8217;s amazing reputation for an art and music community. You could actually persue your craft with conviction, whether it was gluing strips of cloth and string over a canvas splattered with an abstract image of Hitler, or playing improvisational reggae-cowboy-alien-jazz music. Not every composition of these sorts was popular,or even palatable. But the fact was you had a very interesting and diverse artistic vibe going on. And out of the weirdness of all this&#8211;and being able to have a shitty part time job to support your creativity and still afford to live here&#8211; came some pretty cool and pretty great art and music.<br />
   Now, if your art/music has no instant commercial/financial viability, it&#8217;s just a part-time thing&#8211;and it shows&#8212;since you must work-work-work just to pay the rent. The once popular reputation of Hoboken being &#8220;an artistic and musical&#8221; community is a joke,and no more. The Arts &#8216;n Music Fest relies soley, and sadly, on a reputation built in the past. For they have priced the the true artist out of town&#8230;&#8230;therefor the &#8220;Stretched-coke-bottle-with-colored-sand in it&#8221; Fest will never be the same&#8230;..but the tube socks ARE cheap!</p>
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		<title>By: escaped68</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/8382/comment-page-2#comment-46245</link>
		<dc:creator>escaped68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that aame or was mc nabb mugged???</description>
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		<title>By: Colonblow</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/8382/comment-page-2#comment-46244</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonblow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;46210&quot;]I heard that the booths are $500 each... no discount for Hoboken-based artists/businesses, which is why some of our cities best artists/artisans don&#039;t exhibit.[/quote]

You were misinformed. Artists pay around $100, non-profits pay around $25, and the food vendors pay the most - I think $150 but it could be more.</description>
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<p><u><b>GingerBrit </b>wrote:</u></p>
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I heard that the booths are $500 each&#8230; no discount for Hoboken-based artists/businesses, which is why some of our cities best artists/artisans don&#8217;t exhibit.</p>
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<p>You were misinformed. Artists pay around $100, non-profits pay around $25, and the food vendors pay the most &#8211; I think $150 but it could be more.</p>
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		<title>By: oh well okay</title>
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		<dc:creator>oh well okay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;46214&quot;]I gotta agree with you Kooky, there was a lot of crap art out this year.  I saw some nice photos at one booth. I had no intention of buying, just thought they were interesting, then I saw the price - $60.  For a small print, no frame, just a matte.  I think next time I am going just before it starts.  To many people walking around with their heads up their asses.

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football boring?  if you are a guy and don&#039;t like football, i really don&#039;t know what to say.[/quote]

Why is that so impossible to understand? They do 10 second play, then it&#039;s another 5 minutes before they do anything else. B o o o o r r r r i i i ing

I&#039;ve played sports my entire life, sue me for having no attention span.  I sure as hell can&#039;t stand the pre-game show the post-game show, the endless yammering and nonsense from Madden and all the other guys paid to talk over the long, boring pauses in the game.  Give them 30 seconds to get set and start a new play, and take off those stupid pads. 2 300 pound linebackers colliding at full speed - awesome.

I&#039;ll watch anything where the action is constant.
So that leaves boxing, kickboxing and UFC/Pride matches  Hockey and or Soccer once in a while.[/quote]

a soccer fan calling football boring?  oh man - now that takes the cake. soccer - now featuring low scoring....and ties! by the way, there is a 35 second clock in football, so the plays come about twice a minute.  but to each his own.....</description>
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<p><u><b>Easy-E </b>wrote:</u></p>
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I gotta agree with you Kooky, there was a lot of crap art out this year.  I saw some nice photos at one booth. I had no intention of buying, just thought they were interesting, then I saw the price &#8211; $60.  For a small print, no frame, just a matte.  I think next time I am going just before it starts.  To many people walking around with their heads up their asses.</p>
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<p><u><b>oh well okay </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p>football boring?  if you are a guy and don&#8217;t like football, i really don&#8217;t know what to say.</p>
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<p>Why is that so impossible to understand? They do 10 second play, then it&#8217;s another 5 minutes before they do anything else. B o o o o r r r r i i i ing</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve played sports my entire life, sue me for having no attention span.  I sure as hell can&#8217;t stand the pre-game show the post-game show, the endless yammering and nonsense from Madden and all the other guys paid to talk over the long, boring pauses in the game.  Give them 30 seconds to get set and start a new play, and take off those stupid pads. 2 300 pound linebackers colliding at full speed &#8211; awesome.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll watch anything where the action is constant.<br />
So that leaves boxing, kickboxing and UFC/Pride matches  Hockey and or Soccer once in a while.</p>
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<p>a soccer fan calling football boring?  oh man &#8211; now that takes the cake. soccer &#8211; now featuring low scoring&#8230;.and ties! by the way, there is a 35 second clock in football, so the plays come about twice a minute.  but to each his own&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Biffy B For Mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biffy B For Mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IVE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH JUNK IN MY LIFE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Easy-E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy-E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta agree with you Kooky, there was a lot of crap art out this year.  I saw some nice photos at one booth. I had no intention of buying, just thought they were interesting, then I saw the price - $60.  For a small print, no frame, just a matte.  I think next time I am going just before it starts.  To many people walking around with their heads up their asses.

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football boring?  if you are a guy and don&#039;t like football, i really don&#039;t know what to say.[/quote]

Why is that so impossible to understand? They do 10 second play, then it&#039;s another 5 minutes before they do anything else. B o o o o r r r r i i i ing

I&#039;ve played sports my entire life, sue me for having no attention span.  I sure as hell can&#039;t stand the pre-game show the post-game show, the endless yammering and nonsense from Madden and all the other guys paid to talk over the long, boring pauses in the game.  Give them 30 seconds to get set and start a new play, and take off those stupid pads. 2 300 pound linebackers colliding at full speed - awesome.

I&#039;ll watch anything where the action is constant.
So that leaves boxing, kickboxing and UFC/Pride matches  Hockey and or Soccer once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta agree with you Kooky, there was a lot of crap art out this year.  I saw some nice photos at one booth. I had no intention of buying, just thought they were interesting, then I saw the price &#8211; $60.  For a small print, no frame, just a matte.  I think next time I am going just before it starts.  To many people walking around with their heads up their asses.</p>
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<p><u><b>Easy-E </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p>football boring?  if you are a guy and don&#8217;t like football, i really don&#8217;t know what to say.</p>
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<p>Why is that so impossible to understand? They do 10 second play, then it&#8217;s another 5 minutes before they do anything else. B o o o o r r r r i i i ing</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve played sports my entire life, sue me for having no attention span.  I sure as hell can&#8217;t stand the pre-game show the post-game show, the endless yammering and nonsense from Madden and all the other guys paid to talk over the long, boring pauses in the game.  Give them 30 seconds to get set and start a new play, and take off those stupid pads. 2 300 pound linebackers colliding at full speed &#8211; awesome.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll watch anything where the action is constant.<br />
So that leaves boxing, kickboxing and UFC/Pride matches  Hockey and or Soccer once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: GingerBrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>GingerBrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that the booths are $500 each... no discount for Hoboken-based artists/businesses, which is why some of our cities best artists/artisans don&#039;t exhibit.  What a shame.... result is a &quot;Hoboken Arts and Music Festival&quot; with mostly artists from OUTSIDE Hoboken.  Personally, I think the festival should do more to make it attractive for our local artists and artisans to take part... because very little art is actually SOLD at these things (because everyone is busy sampling the dip mixes and standing in line for fried oreos, we need to make it worth their while!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that the booths are $500 each&#8230; no discount for Hoboken-based artists/businesses, which is why some of our cities best artists/artisans don&#8217;t exhibit.  What a shame&#8230;. result is a &#8220;Hoboken Arts and Music Festival&#8221; with mostly artists from OUTSIDE Hoboken.  Personally, I think the festival should do more to make it attractive for our local artists and artisans to take part&#8230; because very little art is actually SOLD at these things (because everyone is busy sampling the dip mixes and standing in line for fried oreos, we need to make it worth their while!)</p>
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		<title>By: strand tramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>strand tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d still like to see the numbers on how much the city takes in for the booth spot rents vs the cost of setup, cleanup, the police fee...and the complete forced surrender of the city by the taxpayers. there&#039;s no way we come out ahead. if we had a TOTAL of 2 Washington Street events per year(including St Pat&#039;s) it would be plenty!</description>
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