Tree butchering on 1st Street
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September
9/17/2007:
Several readers wrote in wondering what was going on with the “pruning” of various trees on First Street this past week.
“Furey” sent this:
“Hey, have you seen what they did to all the trees on 1st Street between Willow and Garden? The north side of the street’s trees have been chopped. A once beautiful tree lined street ruined by the municipal government of Hoboken or a developer? Not sure who. Would love to find out what happened. “
Followed by “gmac17″:
“Wanted to see if you know anything about cutting down trees. I understand the need to trim trees, but i was really surprised to see how much they were taking off of these trees on 1st street last week. Anybody know why you cut them back so much? That is probably 10 years of growth…”
And finally, “Strand Tramp” thinks they have the answer (and may be right!):
“How about some coverage of the tree pruning (butchering) ongoing on 1st this week. Usually Hufnagel does it. Are they the guys doing it this time? Did the city mandate it? Is the city paying or did they force the property owners to foot the bill again? Also, have they considered that the lopping approach they take results in extreme growth of the roots, which causes the sidewalks to erupt? We learned this in high school biology class: Trim the sides and the plant grows taller, trim the top and the plant grows fatter & lop off the top and the root burst to life. Hufnagel is in on the payola IMO!”
September 17th 2007 - 22:23:46 |
“Anybody done a DEAD TREE census lately? Washington Street is an embarrassment”
You don’t like the rediculous PALM TRESS planted in front of Bahama Mamma’s???? They get my nomination for WORST STREET TREE.
How can this city let that happen??
One complaint though…
“I’d much rather see sycamores or real hardwoods like Oaks that live a long time, grow to a large size and provide a lot of shade”
A two foot square cut into a sidewalk is probably not the best place to be planting large growing trees. Besides the obvious groth problems their are teh costs involved with repairing the sidewalks every year the roots grow larger.
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September 18th 2007 - 06:52:39 |
IN THE LAST 2 YEARS OVER 25 CARS HAVE BEEN DAMAGED WITH BRANCHES FALLING ONE OF THESE CARS COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY A PERSON .. BRANCHES GROW BACK PEOPLE DONT THE SHADE TREE COM. AND CITY OF HOBOKEN DID THE RIGHT THING SOME OF THESE TREE’S ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD.A GOOD PRUNING WONT KILL THE TREE ONCE IN A WHILE. WATCH HOW PRETTY THEY WILL GROW BACK NEXT YEAR……..
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September 18th 2007 - 07:32:38 |
Also, the trees are made of Kryptonite. LOUD VOICES!!!
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September 18th 2007 - 08:18:06 |
actually Oaks and many other hardwoods are excellent street trees because the roots grow very deep and well below the surface. Maples, on the other hand, and honey locusts are not so great as sidewalk trees because the roots grow CLOSE to the surface and push the concrete slabs up. Different trees grow differently. NYC used to use largely honey locust trees (after Sycamores) because they could live a long time, even without water. For a while they used elms, but those all got killed by a blight. Now they have a longer list of up to a dozen different types of trees they use on the streets. To me, these bradford pears are about as interesting as the nail salons and banks on Washington Street’s retail monoculture. I agree we need to take sidewalk maintenance and safety into account, but our “shade tree commission” should help us have some variety!
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September 18th 2007 - 08:39:13 |
homeworld wrote:
I saw the Wizzard of Oz, if we do not get the trees they will get us. To maintain peace and stability in Hoboken we needed a premptive strike by the chainsaw crew.
Trees will cut of your power and lines of communication during a big storm. They will clog the drainage system and throw branches at you as you walk by. They use there sap to snare you and mark you as their property.
TREES ARE YOUR ENEMY.
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September 18th 2007 - 09:04:51 |
kal-eel…the pear trees only live 25yrs. elvis, i’m not sure oaks do well in pollution environments. that is one reason the pears are planted in cities. and cities DO NOT want deep rooting trees because they attack sewer lines and clog them.
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December 12th 2007 - 04:21:53 |
Do the research. Look up DUTCH ELM DISEASE and see why the OLD trees are being cut down and replaced! It is sad, but true.
The public can request the type of tree that replaces these old wounded guys by contacting the Shade Tree Commission (click on the Mayor’s web site). Coming ice storms, (and we have had a few over the years) can crash loose branches down on the ground regardless of who is walking under them, or whose car sits in the parking space near it. Pruning is now done by a PRIVATIZED agency and they are supposed to be experts that don’t cost the taxpayers excess money.I watched the tree people cut down a beautiful old Dutch Elm on 11th Street (near Garden) I felt OFFENDED, until I saw the center of the tree. IT was completely rotted inside almost two feet across. A good wind, or ice storm, which our weather people are predicting for this winter, could have killed somebody as it toppled. A nightmare would be a woman walking with children, or a baby in a carriage, or a nice car, or children coming home from school…..etc…etc….
Sad, but the TRUTH…Thank you for caring, Hoboken is full of people who question, research and CARE about living here, including the trees, old and new….A new innovation, would be to ask to sit in on a TREE COMMISSION MEETING!
Margaret
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December 12th 2007 - 08:36:28 |
Won’t somebody think of the saplings!
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December 12th 2007 - 10:04:39 |
Margaret,
I have several spots on my block where trees were. Do I go to the shade tree commission to ask the city to plant trees again or are property owners responsible for planting new trees?
Thank you for the information.
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December 12th 2007 - 10:40:16 |
FAP wrote:
F’N PRICELESS!!!!!!
these comments are why i enjoy this site so much
thx, FAP
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