Time for pedestrian bridges?

Would pedestrian bridges be a good fit in Hoboken?

Hoboken411 reader Dave – who’s been around a long time in Hoboken, has also noticed the trend of disturbing pedestrian accidents in town.

And as Hoboken’s population steadily increases – perhaps it’s time to consider working pedestrian bridges at the most treacherous intersections?

He pointed out that North Bergen officials recognize how to effectively handle pedestrian safety, as they’re finishing up a pedestrian bridge installation at 33rd and Kennedy Boulevard.

Not only would this make traffic flow more smoothly in areas they’re installed – less chances for moronic accidents.

What areas would be prime for bridges like this? Down by the PATH? Jackson Street? Uptown anywhere?

16 Responses

  1. rich k says:

    With two large residential buildings going up, and more on the way, and the widening of the viaduct, the first pedestrian bridge should go across Park at 14th Street. And it should be an el-shaped bridge, crossing both the base of the viaduct and Park.
    Those new residents will be riding the bus to Port Authority, and there is no point during the light cycle at that intersection where it is actually safe to cross either road. There have already been fatal vehicular accidents there. As the population uptown grows, a pedestrian death is inevitable.

    • Evelyn says:

      Don’t you mean Willow?

      But if pedestrian bridges are ever installed downtown, they’d definitely have to be fenced in to prevent drunk mishaps (tossed bottles, puke, bodies).[quote comment=”216744″]With two large residential buildings going up, and more on the way, and the widening of the viaduct, the first pedestrian bridge should go across Park at 14th Street. And it should be an el-shaped bridge, crossing both the base of the viaduct and Park. Those new residents will be riding the bus to Port Authority, and there is no point during the light cycle at that intersection where it is actually safe to cross either road. There have already been fatal vehicular accidents there. As the population uptown grows, a pedestrian death is inevitable.[/quote]

      • rich k says:

        Yeah, I meant Willow. Note to self – never, ever, refer to a location without triple checking Google Maps. After all, I only drive through that intersection once or twice a day.[quote comment=”216745″]Don’t you mean Willow?But if pedestrian bridges are ever installed downtown, they’d definitely have to be fenced in to prevent drunk mishaps (tossed bottles, puke, bodies).[/quote]

  2. Alpuj says:

    At one point the estimate for that bridge was $4M…quite the expensive proposition. Also no place downtown could handle the amount of right of way required to build both ends of the bridge (which has to have elevators to make it ADA accessible).

  3. briank says:

    The comment about lack of space is correct. Walk/Don’t walk signs with countdown timers would be a lot more helpful around town. As a parent of a 4 year old- how am I supposed to explain to her when she can walk as we look up at the traffic signal from a 45 degree angle on the corner and try to explain which lanes the green is for a which lanes the red is for? And if it’s sunny out then the lights are completely washed out.
    Another thing- that monstrosity crossing Kennedy is the most over engineered thing around- obviously someone’s brother in law got the contract because you could drive a tank across that thing. Lastly, I know the area well, covering Hidson county in my sales job. You think pedestrians in Hoboken are “entitled”, you need to drive around Union City and West New York. Elderly, kids, people pushing strollers just waltz through intersections and give you a dirty look if you toot the horn. People won’t walk up the stairs or wait for the elevator at this intersection- most won’t use te bridge and will continue to jaywalk.

  4. Holygoof says:

    I think they are good in theory. And the uptown location near the via duct construction makes sense. Considering how Hoboken manages to screw up most project I would imagine it would take up to 10 years to get something approved and built if they started the process today. And the disruption could be worse than the cure, esp downtown. I’d like to see a big overhaul of the traffic patterns, make some streets foot and/or bike traffic only, add more walk/don’t walk signs, make some streets head in parking which will add spots, and make some others no parking which will increase traffic flow. If traffic is choked a bit in the middle of town but freed up on the edges that would make for both happier drivers, bikers and pedestrians.

  5. spoon says:

    One place a bridge will be needed one day is from the northwest area where the beergarden and battaglias and edge lofts is to where Hudson Tea is. There is no way to cross Willow and park avenue in a good way with cars ripping in and out of Hoboken. It’s not needed now since there is almost nothing over there, but it will be needed once that area become populated or you will see lots of accidents.

  6. spoon says:

    Just saw Rich’s comment. What he said originally echos what I said. Or i guess what I said echos what he said. That whole intersection is an accident waiting to happen with the new buildings there and will only get worse.

  7. mk12 says:

    bicyclists are allowed to ride on the sidewalk as long as they aren’t speeding and almost running people over, so pedestrians walking along need to remember they they have to share the sidewalk also (note, pedestrians have the right of way but that doesnt mean they can take over the sidewalk). if you want to ride your bike at the same speed as cars, then go on the road. if you are riding casually it’s fine to be on the sidewalk. The problem is that everyone thinks they have the right to do whatever they want at the expense of everyone else. Whether you’re riding your bike, pushing your triple wide stroller, walking your dog, jogging, or going for a night out with 10 of your friends all lined up walking side by side, you don’t own the sidewalk and need to leave some room for other people because you are just as much an annoyance to them as they are to you.

    • HomeTeam says:

      Not entirely true. According to these Hoboken rule(absolutel non are followed by any bicyclist I’ve seen in my 13 years here:

      Bike Safety

      Highlights of Rules and Regulations. Cyclists must:

      * Ride in the direction of traffic, not against it.
      * Stop for pedestrians at crosswalks.
      * Stop at stop signs and red lights.
      * Use marked bike lanes if riding under the speed limit
      * Yield to pedestrians and ride no faster than pedestrian walking speed while riding on sidewalks.}
      * Use safety and visibility equipment: front white light, red rear reflector, and bell.
      [quote comment=”216752″]bicyclists are allowed to ride on the sidewalk as long as they aren’t speeding and almost running people over, so pedestrians walking along need to remember they they have to share the sidewalk also (note, pedestrians have the right of way but that doesnt mean they can take over the sidewalk). if you want to ride your bike at the same speed as cars, then go on the road. if you are riding casually it’s fine to be on the sidewalk. The problem is that everyone thinks they have the right to do whatever they want at the expense of everyone else. Whether you’re riding your bike, pushing your triple wide stroller, walking your dog, jogging, or going for a night out with 10 of your friends all lined up walking side by side, you don’t own the sidewalk and need to leave some room for other people because you are just as much an annoyance to them as they are to you.[/quote]

  8. MidnightRacer says:

    Financially, a pedestrian bridge makes no cents. We all know regardless of how much taxes are increased, the town spends into deficits.

    I just got back from a trip to Montreal. As some know, there’s a 16 mile stretch of underground pedestrian walkways along retail and commuter points, all walkable (think winter). Obviously, Hoboken has water table issues, but it would be great if Hoboken could remove all the streets, reinforce structures, and create pedestrian walkways under every street with subterranean retail to help offset the build costs (muni bonds) and maintenance. I’m no engineer, but I wonder if it’s possible to simultaneously solve the flooding issues along with this. As long as you don’t get the local experts involved, it might not collapse.

  9. MidnightRacer says:

    The streets would be above, retail and pedestrian commuting below (prohibit bicycles and skates). For the width of say Washington St., the center corridor would be walkways, whereas the adjacent sides would contain retail, with access via stairs every 4th street.

    Montreal underground pathways

    • HansBrix says:

      “Well I vana toilet made out of solid gold, but it’s just not in the cards now is it?”

      — Austin Powers, 1999[quote comment=”216754″]The streets would be above, retail and pedestrian commuting below (prohibit bicycles and skates). For the width of say Washington St., the center corridor would be walkways, whereas the adjacent sides would contain retail, with access via stairs every 4th street.Montreal underground pathways[/quote]

      • MidnightRacer says:

        If the city bought a golden toilet ($25,000) for every staffer about 10 years ago when the budgets and deficit spending began to get really ridiculous, the town would be in a lot better position than what they’ve already spent hundreds of million on (hospital, collapsed piers, corruption, redistributive policies, etc…).[quote comment=”216762″]“Well I vana toilet made out of solid gold, but it’s just not in the cards now is it?”– Austin Powers, 1999[/quote]

  10. escaped68 says:

    Remember this is hoboken and with the building of a pedestrian bridge come the long long list of BS that comes with any project. so after 10 years of planning and millions in surveys and lawsuits it does get built.
    Now some one has to over see it ba da boom you get the pedestrian bridge authority and the 20/25 jobs it needs to over see the bridge. Now to pay for this authority, the grand pooba of this authority decides to put in ezpass for this bride and the privledge of crossing it
    Is this possible?? keep in mind this is hoboken.

  11. LobstaGirl says:

    The only bridge needed would be the one that bridges the Intelligence factor vs the Stupidity factor of some of the people causing the accidents……So in other words, it looks like pedestrian bridges are the way to go.

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