Bike lanes: Worth it?

In the end – do Hoboken bike lanes make a difference?

You ever wonder if all these markings, signs, directions, rules, and vain attempts to create order in our society have gone past the tipping point already? Take a look at this chaotic scene on River St. this week. Yikes!

Sure, there are so-called “studies” that claim that bike lanes help control the masses and prevent accidents. But I am skeptical about most studies that are published, because they usually are slanted to achieve a means to an end. Just look at that ridiculous cholesterol study that coerced people into avoiding bacon and eggs, and spurned the whole low-fat food industry. Decades later? Obesity and diabetes is at an all time high. My guess is that the bike studies also dabbled in fraud and fudging to promote their socialist platform.

I liken these bike lanes to sunscreen (that’s another big scam). Since the 70’s, skin cancer rates have gone up exponentially, despite the SPF1000 lotions, and so on. For starters, the sunscreen actually blocked out the good Vitamin-D from the sun, and secondly they gave people a false sense of confidence that they could stay all day on the beach, as long as they had the sunblock on. Whoops! Rule of thumb? Avoid sunscreen AND extended periods in the sun (maybe 30 min. at most?)

Same thing with these bike lanes. Of course, *some* drivers “obey” the lines and make life easier for the biker, but not all. The problem here is that many bikers themselves have a false sense of security from the lines that were specially made just for them. This in turn causes many bikers to lower their awareness and end up breaking an arm flipping over a car door, or even worse, getting killed.

When a government spends all sorts of money creating these “safety nets,” I really don’t think it makes a damn bit of difference. In the end, it could even make it worse because it’s distracting!

Hoboken411 reader Kathryn sent in this additional photo of the River Street striping that took place this week. The friggin’ bike marking is in the middle of the road! WTF is that?

21 Responses

  1. Adam_C says:

    Bike lanes are more political than functional. How much does all this paint cost, I suspect it costs more than your average household paint.

    Why do you think Route 9W, one of the most popular spots for bikers has no bike lane markings? Just a couple signs telling bikers to ride single file.

    • animal_lover says:

      said like a REAL biker who understands safety… waste of $$ and potential waste of lives. City could be held liable in the accidents.[quote comment=”215911″]Bike lanes are more political than functional. How much does all this paint cost, I suspect it costs more than your average household paint.Why do you think Route 9W, one of the most popular spots for bikers has no bike lane markings? Just a couple signs telling bikers to ride single file.[/quote]

  2. camel2 says:

    I’m with you. Telling you how to walk, ride and now bozos like Bloomberg trying to dictate how and what you should eat and drink. It all starts somewhere, then you realize how much control they’re trying to exert on everyone. Soon you will need an instruction manual and map just to buy milk and eggs.

  3. joey maxim says:

    maybe in hong kong or other southeast asian counties…mopeds would be better.

  4. whineanddineinhob says:

    This is just another part of a crazed administration trying to shove bike riding down peoples throats, and all it’s doing is pissing people the hell off.

  5. LobstaGirl says:

    What a WASTE of money. Has anyone in this town ever seen any biker obey the law for riding? It’s hard enough to get them to stop at a light. Plus, what good are bike lanes with pot holes and drunk drivers? Just another bureaucratic spending spree.

  6. HOBORAT says:

    #1 Crosswalks are used by every citizen in Hoboken, thats more important then bike lanes.

    #2 All the bike lanes do is tell people where to double park

    #3 Paint already fading

  7. paco says:

    I guess just because mrs mayor got a bike, now have to have these rediculous, traffic hindering, and money wasting bike lanes… If you bikers want to ride, then go the heck over to frank sinatra drive or something. Between these far and few between bikers and folks and chineese delivery dudes who just race accros streets just going to lead to more traffic issues. I was counting he folks using bike lane on clinton ave one day and did not count 1 biker ! oh well. wtach out for that opening car door bike dude ! ha ha 😕

  8. LobstaGirl says:

    What’s next, stroller lanes?

  9. bballfreak2110 says:

    Bike lanes are good. Maybe you people should try using them and stop driving your cars everywhere. They don’t impede traffic and if anything, I would say they improve it by clearly separating bikes and cars. When I’m on a street with a line, I stay within the lane and cars can easily pass me. However, before the streets had lanes, I would ride in the center of the street so that I didn’t have to put my life in the hands of a random person trying to judge how close they are getting to me as they try to pass. Considering that person may very well have been drunk/distracted/tired/on the phone, I think its the correct call.

    • animal_lover says:

      yes that is the proper way to ride in the street. You have all the rights and responsibilities of any vehicle on the road. Check out votes from experienced cyclist…
      streetsblog.org/2010/09/30/new-york...t-generation-of-vehicular-cyclists/

      [quote comment=”215934″]Bike lanes are good. Maybe you people should try using them and stop driving your cars everywhere. They don’t impede traffic and if anything, I would say they improve it by clearly separating bikes and cars. When I’m on a street with a line, I stay within the lane and cars can easily pass me. However, before the streets had lanes, I would ride in the center of the street so that I didn’t have to put my life in the hands of a random person trying to judge how close they are getting to me as they try to pass. Considering that person may very well have been drunk/distracted/tired/on the phone, I think its the correct call.[/quote]

    • nbm3 says:

      I get the bike lanes, but it seems most of the bike lanes in this town dont’ separate the cars from the bikes hence it looks absurd, and pointless.[quote comment=”215934″]Bike lanes are good. Maybe you people should try using them and stop driving your cars everywhere. They don’t impede traffic and if anything, I would say they improve it by clearly separating bikes and cars. When I’m on a street with a line, I stay within the lane and cars can easily pass me. However, before the streets had lanes, I would ride in the center of the street so that I didn’t have to put my life in the hands of a random person trying to judge how close they are getting to me as they try to pass. Considering that person may very well have been drunk/distracted/tired/on the phone, I think its the correct call.[/quote]

  10. joey maxim says:

    you left out lovers lane, orchard lane, baja lane, truck lane,and rockey lane the old time cowboy star…what the heck,do it for the betterment of Hoboken..

  11. animal_lover says:

    It is not even safe to ride on a dedicated bike trail with motor vehicle crossing. Even on the most desolate of roads once I get to a zone with cars I get off the bike. This link should convince you and 411 is correct that the biggest problem in bicycle safety is a cyclist having false assurances or trying to protect themselves and actually increasing the hazard.
    http://www.everybicyclistcounts.org/site/detail/giuseppe_maino

  12. lhoward222 says:

    If the bike lanes resulted in riders using them, I’d be for them. Grand St was one of first painted. Still have jack-a**es riding on sidewalks (full speed) and wrong way on street.

  13. animal_lover says:

    The bike lanes make it worse because by law you can not ride or even cross over a line in the bike lane. This is impossible in Hoboken due to the double parking. Example of city running AMOK.

  14. Skelly says:

    …excuse not to pave the roads that need it. Money Wasted yet again. We know all bikers are now heading towards 16th and clinton St, they need that 1 block of a bike lane to make it out of town.

    http://hoboken411.com/archives/74182

    “As streets are resurfaced, the City of Hoboken’s Administration is striping 10 miles of new bike lanes along wider streets”

    No, they’re not really resurfacing streets.

    ..please.

  15. bokenho says:

    Former Hobokenite here, current Portlander (yep, “Put a bird on it!”). I understand the confusion/anger when there is new signage to pay attention to, and I think that it would be wise for the city to inform everyone what that bike with the two arrows really is. That isn’t a dedicated bike lane per se, but rather what is called a “sharrow” (shared arrow lane…lame, I know). When used correctly by both autos and bikes, it lets both parties know that you can expect bicycles on this lane, and to be more aware. When used correctly, bicyclists use these lanes more often, thereby clearing up the smaller/unsafe streets for auto traffic.

    During the 7 years that I lived in Hoboken, I could only hack driving/parking my car 6 months before it drove me (haha) to find another job that didn’t require a car. I ended up walking and taking public transportation, but biking would have been a welcome change….provided the PATH train would have loosened up it’s restrictions on rush hour bikes. I had always hoped that they would have at least allowed bikes in only one train car or something, as the ferry was too cost-prohibitive.

    Portland has been a great move for bikes and public transportation. I commute 8 miles each way to work, all on the street but all with “sharrows”. When it’s too rainy (ahem…often), I have the dual option of putting my bike on the equivalent of the lightrail which has bike hooks to hang inside, or on the front of the bus, which has two places on the front for bikes. There’s definitely things that I miss about Hoboken, but struggling with biking is not one of them.

    Ps, has anyone seen Chuey (guy that dances on the corner) around?

    • animal_lover says:

      Yes I was wondering the same about Chuey… I saw him just a few weeks ago. Fabulous voice and when you speak w him he actually is a very intelligent man. [quote comment=”216259″]Former Hobokenite here, current Portlander (yep, “Put a bird on it!”). I understand the confusion/anger when there is new signage to pay attention to, and I think that it would be wise for the city to inform everyone what that bike with the two arrows really is. That isn’t a dedicated bike lane per se, but rather what is called a “sharrow” (shared arrow lane…lame, I know). When used correctly by both autos and bikes, it lets both parties know that you can expect bicycles on this lane, and to be more aware. When used correctly, bicyclists use these lanes more often, thereby clearing up the smaller/unsafe streets for auto traffic.During the 7 years that I lived in Hoboken, I could only hack driving/parking my car 6 months before it drove me (haha) to find another job that didn’t require a car. I ended up walking and taking public transportation, but biking would have been a welcome change….provided the PATH train would have loosened up it’s restrictions on rush hour bikes. I had always hoped that they would have at least allowed bikes in only one train car or something, as the ferry was too cost-prohibitive.Portland has been a great move for bikes and public transportation. I commute 8 miles each way to work, all on the street but all with “sharrows”. When it’s too rainy (ahem…often), I have the dual option of putting my bike on the equivalent of the lightrail which has bike hooks to hang inside, or on the front of the bus, which has two places on the front for bikes. There’s definitely things that I miss about Hoboken, but struggling with biking is not one of them.Ps, has anyone seen Chuey (guy that dances on the corner) around?[/quote]

  16. animal_lover says:

    Here’s how they are used in practice… I give the cyclist space but he finds my driving to slow so he pulls to my right and can’t pass, then cuts infront of me and pulls to my left , then proceeds the wrong way at the intersection then mounts the sidewalk curb at high speed.

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