Kids at Hoboken dog parks

More common sense needed at Hoboken Dog Parks

We’ve noticed a disturbing trend at Hoboken dog runs lately – people who bring their children inside with them.

There are several problems with bringing kids in. Some breeds do not have a particular liking to little ones, and the unpredictable nature of how kids interact might lead to some unnecessary injuries.

Even the Morris County, NJ Park Commission has a couple common sense rules at their parks in regards to children:

  • Children under 12 are not permitted. The adjacent picnic area is available. Not all dogs welcome a child’s attention. Running can encourage a dog’s herding instincts.
  • Children tend to approach dogs quickly, chase them, run, or tease dogs. This is a potentially dangerous situation. Children should use appropriate park areas.

Do parents think that now since they’ve already taken over most of Hoboken’s park space with their sugared-up hyper machines, that they’re entitled to the rest of the space?

It is our opinion that dog parks should be for adults only. Maybe over 18 – or at least in possession of a drivers license. The Hoboken dog parks are the only places we as dog owners can go to let our dogs run free, rough-house with other pooches and so on.

Parents: Please keep your kids out!

Other Hoboken dog run suggestions

Additionally – perhaps some new ground rules should apply at our dog runs. How about some clear signage that specifies some guidelines for dog-owners to abide by? Such as:

  1. Limiting liability by using the phrase: Enter at your own risk. Dog owners should be aware of their animals, and take proactive steps to prevent any and all out of control situations. Any time multiple dogs are off-leash presents a risk you voluntarily entered into.
  2. Tell owners to survey the area before entering – as well as those already inside to be aware of which dogs may be entering. If you see a particular breed that your dog doesn’t interact well with – either choose not to enter, or make the person coming in aware of the situation and avoid it if possible.
  3. NO STROLLERS, BABIES OR KIDS!
  4. And no unattended dogs! We’ve seen parents who actually just drop their mutts off while they multitask and play with the kids on the swing sets. They end up leaving poop behind as well. Unacceptable.

In the end, common sense always applies – and it seems like our society is in a downward spiral when it comes to using your noggin’.

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29 Comments on "Kids at Hoboken dog parks"

mooshu
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mooshu

“Hoboken isn’t a dog town. It’s not for dogs. Dogs should be in the suburbs, or running along fields…”

Nice try. You know what? No, they shouldn’t be anywhere.

Let me tell you something about the suburbs and running dogs you see in the movies. Dogs aren’t entertained there EITHER unless they have other dogs or at least one human to play with. You don’t just stick them in a yard and expect them to entertain and exercise themselves. Someone’s sister-in-law’s backyard is not the f*cking wild. Therefore, it is not a place where dogs get what they need… unless it is provided for them.

Utter b.s. brought on by people who don’t like dogs “ruining” their precious sidewalks. When we’re no more important to this planet as is clearly evident by the damage that has been done to nature. There are fat, unmanageable, untrained, uncared for, neglected, even abused, but plain unhealthy and depressed dogs in the suburbs, too.

The dogs I walk and care for are NOT any of those things. And we live in Hoboken. So suck it.

mooshu
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mooshu

Anyway…

This kids-in-dog-runs thing is getting out of hand. Today I saw a group of young boys at the park, one of whom owns a dog that’s too big for the kid to handle.

And all the moms were OUTSIDE the park. Sipping cold drinks and talking amongst themselves, not even watching their kids.

Next time I see this, I’m gonna bring it to the attention of an officer. Dog owners/walkers aren’t babysitters. We have a right to visit the dog runs and allow our pets to play in there. Parents, you do NOT own every square inch of a park– get over yourselves. And we don’t want your unmanageable attacking our dogs either– the dog weighs more than the damn kid.

westcoastbound
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westcoastbound

God, you are an idiot.[quote comment=”215124″]Anyway…This kids-in-dog-runs thing is getting out of hand. Today I saw a group of young boys at the park, one of whom owns a dog that’s too big for the kid to handle.And all the moms were OUTSIDE the park. Sipping cold drinks and talking amongst themselves, not even watching their kids.Next time I see this, I’m gonna bring it to the attention of an officer. Dog owners/walkers aren’t babysitters. We have a right to visit the dog runs and allow our pets to play in there. Parents, you do NOT own every square inch of a park– get over yourselves. And we don’t want your unmanageable attacking our dogs either– the dog weighs more than the damn kid.[/quote]

whineanddineinhob
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whineanddineinhob

YOU can’t see the hazards of a child playing in a dog run, and have the balls to call someone else an idiot. Someone should beam you up quickly.[quote comment=”215129″]God, you are an idiot.[/quote]

mooshu
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mooshu

Surprised? More like “superior as usual” around here.

Well, it IS kinda hard to see nasty bitches from their very shoes, isn’t it?

Shove it.

joey maxim
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joey maxim

westcoast..I observed that behavior as well..dog walks are for dogs and play areas are for children… The key is that the most intelligent self centered people don’t take advantage of commen sense…Imagine fighting over pet owners and fustrated moms?
Crazy chit.. ❓ [quote comment=”215009″]Surprised? More like “superior as usual” around here.Well, it IS kinda hard to see nasty bitches from their very shoes, isn’t it?Shove it.[/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover

Joey that’s the explanation I repeatedly hear the word that is used is “entitlement” . Entitled folks don’t believe common sense or laws apply to them and they will use every last penny and pull to show it. Thank God if you have a few tenacious souls who person it reason can prevail. It is costly in time and energy but I would feel responsible knowing that the child was at risk.

This applies to more than dog runs. I recently saw a man standing in a parking spot at night holding a young child so that no one could take the space. He was at the edge of the spot almost in the street w the child.

I have seen numerous young children playing on balconies unattended and in the swimming pool w no adult around. Then of course there are the women who get their kids to drop trough in the park to pee on the grass.

[quote comment=”215020″]westcoast..I observed that behavior as well..dog walks are for dogs and play areas are for children… The key is that the most intelligent self centered people don’t take advantage of commen sense…Imagine fighting over pet owners and fustrated moms? Crazy chit.. [/quote]

joey maxim
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joey maxim
animal lover..As Jackie Gleason said (its a losing fight) children are precious and pets are man womans best friends…The town is not country,no fields to run and romp and be free..Hoboken is not a pet town…You walk the dog hire a dog walker while at work and their couped up in an apt or condo..no no no way..It’s unfair to the dogs..My sis has a lab,free to roam in the fields in her area..Just unfair…the town is a mile square n does not accommodate the freedom that these pets deserve..unfair to the pets but many have the education but not the intelligence or understanding of an animal,that loves their owers but does not deserve the treatment,aka thinking its love. 🙄 [quote comment=”215025″]Joey that’s the explanation I repeatedly hear the word that is used is “entitlement” . Entitled folks don’t believe common sense or laws apply to them and they will use every last penny and pull to show it. Thank God if you have a few tenacious souls who person it reason can prevail. It is costly in time and energy but I would feel responsible knowing that the child was at risk.This applies to more than dog runs. I recently saw a man standing in a parking spot at night holding a young child so that no one could take the space. He was at the edge of the spot almost in the street w the child.I have seen numerous young children playing on balconies unattended and in the… Read more »
mooshu
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mooshu

Sounds wonderful but… Nope. In THIS city, dogs have runs to roam and play freely in. There are also plenty of runs in Manhattan and elsewhere.

The truth here is that we have some SUPER ENTITLED families in Hoboken who aren’t satisfied with every other square inch of the town to walk, bike, jog, and push strollers on. THAT’S the truth.[quote comment=”215031″]animal lover..As Jackie Gleason said (its a losing fight) children are precious and pets are man womans best friends…The town is not country,no fields to run and romp and be free..Hoboken is not a pet town…You walk the dog hire a dog walker while at work and their couped up in an apt or condo..no no no way..It’s unfair to the dogs..My sis has a lab,free to roam in the fields in her area..Just unfair…the town is a mile square n does not accommodate the freedom that these pets deserve..unfair to the pets but many have the education but not the intelligence or understanding of an animal,that loves their owers but does not deserve the treatment,aka thinking its love. [/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover

I suppose one could argue that an highly congested urban area is not fit for man, child nor beast. [quote comment=”215125″]Sounds wonderful but… Nope. In THIS city, dogs have runs to roam and play freely in. There are also plenty of runs in Manhattan and elsewhere.The truth here is that we have some SUPER ENTITLED families in Hoboken who aren’t satisfied with every other square inch of the town to walk, bike, jog, and push strollers on. THAT’S the truth.[/quote]

spiffy
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spiffy

MOOSH, you hit the nail on the head. Entitlement. Everyone thinks the world should be handed to them on a silver platter. It’s disgusting, and just one of the elements that is leading our country down the drain. Narcissistic America. [quote comment=”215125″]Sounds wonderful but… Nope. In THIS city, dogs have runs to roam and play freely in. There are also plenty of runs in Manhattan and elsewhere.The truth here is that we have some SUPER ENTITLED families in Hoboken who aren’t satisfied with every other square inch of the town to walk, bike, jog, and push strollers on. THAT’S the truth.[/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover

Well Joey, there you have it, the ugly truth. I can’t find fault with your good sense and am glad you expressed it.[quote comment=”215031″]animal lover..As Jackie Gleason said (its a losing fight) children are precious and pets are man womans best friends…The town is not country,no fields to run and romp and be free..Hoboken is not a pet town…You walk the dog hire a dog walker while at work and their couped up in an apt or condo..no no no way..It’s unfair to the dogs..My sis has a lab,free to roam in the fields in her area..Just unfair…the town is a mile square n does not accommodate the freedom that these pets deserve..unfair to the pets but many have the education but not the intelligence or understanding of an animal,that loves their owers but does not deserve the treatment,aka thinking its love. [/quote]

westcoastbound
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westcoastbound

In over 20 years in NYC and NJ, I will state it again, I never met a person who set foot with a child and no dog in a dog-run or dog park. I am surprised. I was trying to think of an explanation. That is all.

(Yes, and blissful likely because the place isn’t overrun with insecure nasty bitches with inferiority complexes and two-ton chips on their shoulders. And foul, foul, seethingly foul mouths, at that.)

westcoastbound
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westcoastbound

Jeez. I’ve been on the West Coast now for 18 blissful months. And we have a lot of dogs out here too. 🙂 But seriously? Kids in dog runs? I’m actually having trouble believing anyone is that stupid! 21 years in NY and NJ and I NEVER saw anyone take a child into a dog-run. Anyone who actually does that is probably foreign and doesn’t understand how we separate space. I’d go right up to someone with their kid in the space and just explain it. My guess is that would take care of the problem.

animal_lover
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animal_lover

You make an important point about explaining WEST. Child endangerment is knowingly putting a child in harms way. Without signs at the dog park specifying safe behavior ie DOG Park Rules, the City of Hoboken is leaving itself wide open for responsibility in the event of a tragic incident. It has been brought to their attention many times but somehow they feel it would be bad PR for its “vibrant growing community”. [quote comment=”214977″]Jeez. I’ve been on the West Coast now for 18 blissful months. And we have a lot of dogs out here too. But seriously? Kids in dog runs? I’m actually having trouble believing anyone is that stupid! 21 years in NY and NJ and I NEVER saw anyone take a child into a dog-run. Anyone who actually does that is probably foreign and doesn’t understand how we separate space. I’d go right up to someone with their kid in the space and just explain it. My guess is that would take care of the problem.[/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover

Naw, they give you a look look to kill. One local public figure actually shouted at me for questioning him with his dog tied to the child’s play run.[quote comment=”214977″]Jeez. I’ve been on the West Coast now for 18 blissful months. And we have a lot of dogs out here too. But seriously? Kids in dog runs? I’m actually having trouble believing anyone is that stupid! 21 years in NY and NJ and I NEVER saw anyone take a child into a dog-run. Anyone who actually does that is probably foreign and doesn’t understand how we separate space. I’d go right up to someone with their kid in the space and just explain it. My guess is that would take care of the problem.[/quote]

mooshu
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mooshu

I believe you.

And do people really have to be “foreign” to misunderstand the very simple concept of keeping children out of dog runs? Nope and, interestingly, the people I’ve seen with their kids (infants, really) in the dog runs aren’t foreign at all.

I’ve lived in NY (native) for over twenty years, and have spent almost ten years in Hoboken.

(I should add that some Hobokenites have also experienced a blissful 18 months.)[quote comment=”215000″]Naw, they give you a look look to kill. One local public figure actually shouted at me for questioning him with his dog tied to the child’s play run.[/quote]

westcoastbound
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westcoastbound

Acckkkkkkkk! So irrelevant. So silly. So ignorant. So alone you must be.[quote comment=”215004″]I believe you.And do people really have to be “foreign” to misunderstand the very simple concept of keeping children out of dog runs? Nope and, interestingly, the people I’ve seen with their kids (infants, really) in the dog runs aren’t foreign at all.I’ve lived in NY (native) for over twenty years, and have spent almost ten years in Hoboken.(I should add that some Hobokenites have also experienced a blissful 18 months.)[/quote]

mooshu
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mooshu

And so screwed up in the head you really are. For someone who’s supposedly lived a blissful 18 months in San Francisco. Why don’t you look for SF411? You’re irrelevant here.[quote comment=”215042″]Acckkkkkkkk! So irrelevant. So silly. So ignorant. So alone you must be.[/quote]

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