Hoboken Police Blotter: LepreCon 2012

Howard Stern talks about stupid Lepre-Con drunks in Hoboken (again)

Just like last year – radio host Howard Stern once again talked about the drunken antics associated with organized drinking at Hoboken LepreCon.

But just like this event which paled in comparison to parades of the past – Stern only briefly spoke about this year’s “pub crawl” (but read the Hoboken411 Police Blotter again!)

Enjoy!

Hoboken LepreCon Crime and Fire Action Blotter

3/4/2012 Update:

All in all, the Hoboken “Lepre-Con” was both good and bad.

Good – because overall, the severity of the nonsense was likely only 25% of what it was during previous parade years. As one Hoboken411 commenter said along the lines of “so much for social networking effectiveness…”

Bad – because we still had more quality of life issues than necessary – and even some business owners (especially uptown) reported substantially less revenue than in the past. Apparently this Lepre-Con event was a secret privately run gig that didn’t include the whole city – just those bars that kissed each others behinds. Who knows. But one thing for certain, the absence of the parade (which covered the entire main avenue) also played a role.

What will 2013 bring? Time will tell!

Hoboken Police Blotter for LepreCon 2012

1:25am: Disorderly person “knocking on doors” at 151 9th StreetI just need ONE more drink!

1:20am: 1st & Willow – intoxicated girl requires EMS aid. I can see a new bar special in the future: “Buy two drinks get free ambulance ride!”

12:25am: Unknown person knocking on doors at 521 Jefferson St., “possibly passed out now…” Man I just needed to lay down in a nice bed!

12:23am: 1302 Bloomfield, “disorderly house party” going on. HPD en route to check out if they have any tasty appetizers left.

12:16am: 2nd & Garden – another report of a street fight.

12:15am: Reports of a street fight on Washington St. between 8th & 9th. Mad that Lepre-Con was only 1/4 of what the St. Patty’s Parade was?

11:46pm: “Man down” in hallway at 311 Willow Ave. (across from the hospital). How convenient!

10:36pm: Car crash at 11th & Willow. Guess all those flashing lights from the previous call distracted the drunk drivers who were busy texting.

Network News: Hoboken featured on Channel 7 Eyewitness News today…

10:20pm: Disorderly party at 11th & Willow. HPD rushing to break it up.

10:08pm: Hoboken411 reader David witnessed this debacle near 12th and Adams – a tow truck botched a removal – effectively blocking the road for over an hour and a half.
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9:55pm: Another street fight at 10th & Clinton, resulting in a “man down.” Wonder if the city will pick up the tab for some referees for these fights since they’re paying for other stuff like crappers…

9:45pm: Man assaulted at 9th & Park – actors fled west on 9th. The freaks come out at night!

9:05pm: Intoxicated male at 203 Washington St. receiving medical treatment (for his lack of judgment and self-control. Does health insurance cover that?)

8:55pm: Seems like the city is more like a typical Saturday night at the start of summer at this point…

8:38pm: Street fight at 1st & River. Black-Eye-Con.

8:37pm: Street fight at 2nd & Clinton. Drunk-Con.

8:18pm: Street fight at 4th & Hudson. Angry-Con.

8:14pm: Disorderly tickets issued at 158 1st Street – HPD noted what big mouths the lucky recipients of the wallet-plundering fines had. Lack of respect also costs you money!

8:08pm: One man is two grand poorer – gets ticket for public drinking at 208 Washington Street. Funny thing is – all the revenue these summonses generate won’t lower your property taxes!

8:05pm: Disorderly party at 452 2nd Street shut down.

7:47pm: People “disturbing the peace” at 225 Washington Street received disorderly conduct summonses and were sent on their merry way. Silence is cheaper than blabbering!

7:46pm: Another expensive drink coupon given to a sad sack at 302 Monroe Street. Was it worth it, kiddo?

7:40pm: Male / Female dispute in the lobby of the W Hotel. Wonder if it’s a “fancy fight?”

7:37pm: Ticket issued for open container – 8th & Adams. Note – this list represents only the incidents that I had time to document.. many more tickets were issued than what is detailed here…

7:36pm: Street fight at 1st & River Streets. I guess you can call that area the “ground zero” of Lepre-Con.

7:25pm: Man and woman fighting at 8th & Washington. About what? The shade of green his shirt is?

7:23pm: Fire alarms activated at 604 River Terrace again near Stevens Institute. College-Con!

7:05pm: Disorderly house party at 510 Bloomfield.

Raw Video: A tour of Hoboken LepreCon. Below is a video I slapped together of what Hoboken looked like around 2pm-ish today. Thanks to “The Worst Roads in New Jersey,” the film is a bit choppy in places. I bet Hoboken has the highest instances of kidney stones in America.

6:50pm: Two chicks going at it near 11th & Washington. One girl says she’ll sick her boyfriend on the other – “with a gun.” HPD en route. What is so serious these days?

6:49pm: Fire alarms activated at 812 Castle Point Terrace near Stevens Institute. Can’t those engineering students figure out how to jury rig the smoke detectors to not get set-off by bong hits?

6:30pm: Reports of a “large street fight” at 14th & Washington Streets. A cavalcade of Police units from several municipalities sped up the Avenue – only to find “nothing showing.” Maybe they did that for spectacular news reel footage? Ha!

6:10pm: Man reportedly “climbing a wall” at 2nd & Jackson Streets. Bet he watched Spiderman recently!

6:04pm: Unconscious drunk in bathroom at 7-Eleven. EMS on the way. Highly doubt it was from Slurpee Brain Freeze…

5:50pm: Drunk needs medical assistance at 3rd & Willow. Hoboken EMS en route.

5:41pm: More revelers on the roof at 5th & Washington. HPD en route to put them where they belong. Don’t go too close to the edge!

5:23pm: Drunk “doing pushups” in the middle of the intersection at 14th & Willow. What a bonehead!

Twitter Updates If you followed Hoboken411 on Twitter for the past hour – you would have seen these lovely incidents:

  • 4:46pm: Boy / girl fight at 8th and Madisonbooze brings people together!
  • 4:33pm: Fire alarms at 605 Jefferson St.
  • 4:33pm: Fire alarms at 121 Jackson St.
  • 4:32pm: Disorderly drunk at 12th and Washingtonwow, what a surprise!!
  • 4:30pm: Bottles being tossed outside windows at 222 Clinton St.
  • 4:22pm: Fight at 1st and Gardenblood and teeth – how lovely!
  • 4:20pm: Debris being flung off roof at 251 10th Streetguess that college degree is helping!
  • 4:15pm: Disorderly drunks harassing families at Pier C Parkhow civil!

4:10pm: “Man Down” at 6th & Jefferson Street. In his circle of friends, that’s considered “#winning!”

4:00pm: More rooftop parties about to be busted up by PD at 400 3rd Street.

3:56pm: Beer can tossed off roof – hits Hoboken Police officer in head at 808 Washington Street. What a great party, LepreCon organizers!

3:50pm: Unconscious broad at 401 First Street. I guess that’s considered “voluntary passing out?”

3:30pm: Drunk under arrest for punching Hoboken Fire Chief’s car. What is with people? Do they treat real life like a video game?

3:28pm: Bottles flying outside of windows at 1st & Washington. Hey, that’s right near City Hall! Where’s the Mayor?

3:12pm: Unauthorized roof-top gathering at 813 Washington. I bet they’re enjoying the imaginary St. Patty’s Parade!

3:00pm: Drunk throws bottle at bus, breaks window at 15th & Grand, near the Pilsener Haus Biergarten. HPD on the way.

2:48pm: Open container ticket issued at 1st & Adams. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

2:46pm: Disorderly party at 915 Clinton Street “starting to overflow into hallway…”

2:39pm: Fire alarms activated at 1024 Washington St.

Mid-Day Report Card 2:25pm: Spent the last hour and a half in the field. Downtown is definitely where it’s at. Uptown bars are virtually dead – but the house parties are peppered throughout the town. The PATH station was steadily flowing with more and more revelers. As the sun breaks through and the day progresses – we feel that the activity is going to definitely ramp up – well into the night. Stay tuned! Oh, and the girls are already getting drunk – as you can see by this scene on Newark St. downtown in front of the Taco Truck:

12:57pm: PD dispatched to 119 Washington “balcony” concerns…

12:56pm: 4th & Garden – more public booze consumption coupons dealt. And they were clearly warned! Oh well!

12:47pm: Cops sent to 227 Adams St. again for disorderly party. You can probably bet they’ll get issued and broken down.

12:42pm: Three tickets issued for public alcohol consumption at 1st & Clinton. That’ll be $6,000 for that round of cheap beers, guys!

12:34pm: Fire dept. dispatched to 618 Washington for “alarms activated.” Update: Accidental off-set.

12:26pm: Disorderly party at 227 Adams St. “on the upper floors” supposedly. Today would NOT be a good day for the book club to meet.

12:19pm: FOUR more Jay-walking tickets issued. Can someone help me coin a phrase for this thievery? What do you think? Pedestrian Plundering? Intersection Pick-Pocketing? I’m at a loss here…

12:15pm: Hot Dog Harassment – Police told to move the guy selling wieners at 315 Washington Street. It’s bad to try and make a living feeding others, didn’t you know that? Shame on capitalism!

12:12pm: Car crash at 4th & Jackson. No reported injuries. Unknown whether drunk tool-bags were involved.

12:11pm: Police dispatched to 9th & Washington for “disorderly backyard party.” Guess peeps be talking too loud. Update: Ticket issued at 911 Washington.

12:03pm: TWO more jay-walking summonses issued downtown. Who would have thought this would turn into the big story today? Seriously, jay walking? Have you seen Hoboken any other day of the week? Why just today?

11:49am: SIX more summonses issued for improper street crossing at River St. & Hudson Place. Why don’t they just shut the street down and divert traffic?

11:39am: HPD confused whether taxi cabs can line up at Hudson Place – since their stand has been moved to Vezzetti way. However, if they’re “driving by” they can pick up fares.

11:26am: Police give out two tickets for open container at 15 Hudson Place. According to city ordinances – that means they just made $4,000! Wow!

11:24am: Two more tickets issued for obnoxious, entitled people not crossing at the green. HPD plucks them like shooting fish in a barrel. Ka-Ching for city hall pay raises!

11:17am: “Disorderly group on roof” at 564 First Street. Look out below!

11:07am: HPD issues two summonses for “crossing the street when it’s not your turn” at River St. & Hudson Place. Maybe they’re worried they won’t be able to snag a half a million bucks from drunks today?

11:00am: A whole fleet of Hudson County Police cars, buses and more spotted coming in to town from the south “lights blaring.”

10:45am: Hoboken Police have noted that the number of revelers has begun to pick up – as many folks are coming in off the PATH and near down town armed with “packaged goods” so to say – and headed towards the house-parties. Lines are also forming downtown as well. Good luck everyone!

Hoboken prepares for Lepre-Con – Police ready

3/2/2012:

Just like Hoboken St. Patrick’s Parade 2011Hoboken411 will be keeping readers informed with a constantly updated incident report log throughout the day tomorrow for LepreCon.

Based on the Hoboken LepreCon poll results – it’s clear that residents in town are concerned about how the day will pan out – for better or worse.

Bookmark this thread and check back often to see how the day progresses!

You can follow Hoboken411 on Twitter to get updates that might not make this section tomorrow as well.

Good luck with whatever you do (and be sure to hydrate if you plan on drinking!)

101 Responses

  1. YipYap says:

    Warp factor 10 Johnny the unobtainable speed in which you need to move out of town.

  2. Kaiser Sosay says:

    Come to Hoboken and have a good time…but please leave your shortcomings,insecurities,snooki-type girlfriends and beer muscles at home and believe it or not you can still enjoy yourself

  3. JohnnyFriendly says:

    Rag —

    I’m with Kaiser Sosay — you’re preaching to the choir when it comes to City Hall hijinks around here — that’s not exactly a news flash.

    What amuses me is that you’re happy to defend the fake St Patty’s day clusterfuck as a part of Hoboken’s tradition, yet you decry the corruption that is more a part of this city’s tradition than this stupid day of public drunkenness. I think BOTH the annual drunk-fest AND city corruption are wrong. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, friend.

    For some reason, it makes you feel better to describe anyone who doesn’t appreciate people vomiting and urinating all over their town a “square”. Sorry, but I completely disagree with your characterization.

    This town has changed dramatically during the 7 years I’VE lived here — there are many more families with young children and strollers everywhere. Do you really think it’s appropriate to have people throwing cans and bottles from rooftops at 2:00 in the afternoon (or any other time for that matter)? Is that the price we HAVE to pay for out-of-towners to come here and have a “good time”? I think not.

    If these assholes want to act like assholes, I invite them to stay in Teaneck, or Clifton, or wherever the fuck else they come from. Let their respective Police Departments deal with these out-of-control hoodlums.

    I just don’t think it’s in the best interest of the City of Hoboken to invite these problems to our streets. And frankly, I’m stunned that you and others have such a difficult time understanding that.

    • rag246 says:

      Johnny, 7 years? 2005? Sorry you bought in at the height of the bubble, buddy. Guess what? There was a town there and a culture before you showed up.

      I lived in Hoboken since the late 90s, and before I moved in I had friends there. Left in 2008 (and I didn’t take that long a walk…I still go to my local now and then, and they still know my name and let me in the door for free even if there’s a line and a cover).

      We’d go out on St Patty’s and you could still barhop. Covers were $5 if anything, and lines were 10 minutes. I always respected the town especially after I moved in. So no, Kaiser, I was not one of the douche-bags. There weren’t that many then. The festival kind of popped…around 2005! At that point I’d head into NYC, or for some reason, Baja always had room at the bar. I guess the Irish don’t like Corona.

      I digress. I believe in personal responsibility and the freedom to have a good time. Arrest people for fighting. Arrest them for vandalism. Arrest then for D&D. Set up port-o-potties so people don’t have to piss in the park.

      But DON’t arrest someone casually drinking coffee with a little Baily’s in it or just walking down the road with an open can of beer. Other cities in the US and around the world are fine with that policy and remarkably they haven’t devolved into anarchy. But hey we got a bunch of juiced up goomba gangsters I mean cops who want to get their rocks off, right? Honestly, the only difference between some of the asshole drunks in Hoboken and some of the Cops is BAC and a uniform. Disclaimer: I know some Hoboken / Newark cops and they’re cool.

      [quote comment=”214398″]Rag –I’m with Kaiser Sosay — you’re preaching to the choir when it comes to City Hall hijinks around here — that’s not exactly a news flash.What amuses me is that you’re happy to defend the fake St Patty’s day clusterfuck as a part of Hoboken’s tradition, yet you decry the corruption that is more a part of this city’s tradition than this stupid day of public drunkenness. I think BOTH the annual drunk-fest AND city corruption are wrong. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, friend.For some reason, it makes you feel better to describe anyone who doesn’t appreciate people vomiting and urinating all over their town a “square”. Sorry, but I completely disagree with your characterization.This town has changed dramatically during the 7 years I’VE lived here — there are many more families with young children and strollers everywhere. Do you really think it’s appropriate to have people throwing cans and bottles from rooftops at 2:00 in the afternoon (or any other time for that matter)? Is that the price we HAVE to pay for out-of-towners to come here and have a “good time”? I think not.If these assholes want to act like assholes, I invite them to stay in Teaneck, or Clifton, or wherever the fuck else they come from. Let their respective Police Departments deal with these out-of-control hoodlums.I just don’t think it’s in the best interest of the City of Hoboken to invite these problems to our streets. And frankly, I’m stunned that you and others have such a difficult time understanding that.[/quote]

  4. JohnnyFriendly says:

    YipYap —

    Thanks so much for your thoughtful analysis of what I need to do with my life. Because in your delusional mind, you actually think you know everything about me.

    I’ll be sure to take your opinion into account for the rest of my major life-decisions.

    Greatly appreciated.

    Sheesh.

  5. JohnnyFriendly says:

    Kaiser Sosay —

    Totally agree with you — but keep in mind that YipYap is delusional — doesn’t surprise me that this clusterfuck weekend seems pretty much like every other in that distorted mind.

    You can’t argue with people like that.

  6. themanwithnoboo says:

    Yeah, so I have a young family and live here. Not much to cheer about when some drunken idiot trying to access the Next available drunken G-string nearly stumbles into my 3 year old daughter and all I get is a belched “geez, saarreee dood” I do think that its too much for a small place like this to hold a 24 hour bingefest at the city tax payers expense. Some people out for a good time, fine. My family’s safety and comfort put in jeopardy? Completely different kettle of fish…

    • Kaiser Sosay says:

      at the residents expense…… its not just the people who have a property tax bill in there name who have to deal with this nonsense..[quote comment=”214401″]Yeah, so I have a young family and live here. Not much to cheer about when some drunken idiot trying to access the Next available drunken G-string nearly stumbles into my 3 year old daughter and all I get is a belched “geez, saarreee dood” I do think that its too much for a small place like this to hold a 24 hour bingefest at the city tax payers expense. Some people out for a good time, fine. My family’s safety and comfort put in jeopardy? Completely different kettle of fish…[/quote]

      • themanwithnoboo says:

        Apologies, turn of phrase. Obviously not meant to be exclusive in that comment (especially as it doesn’t apply to me either in that sense!). It’s All of us having to deal with this mess, just hope children or the vulnerable are not exposed to anything too vile due to today, hoping they sleep right through it![quote comment=”214402″]at the residents expense…… its not just the people who have a property tax bill in there name who have to deal with this nonsense..[/quote]

      • Kaiser Sosay says:

        apologies from me as well for assuming.im so used to hearing at the tax payers expense and it always comes from the same block of people who staunchly believe if you dont have a prop tax bill in your name then you have no say and your not a tax paying resident..what we do agree on is that nonsense is nonsense and that there are ways to have a good time that dont involve running over childern or pissing in the streets…not all neighborhoods were quite today but my area was great in comparison to yrs past i could have heard a pin drop[quote comment=”214409″]Apologies, turn of phrase. Obviously not meant to be exclusive in that comment (especially as it doesn’t apply to me either in that sense!). It’s All of us having to deal with this mess, just hope children or the vulnerable are not exposed to anything too vile due to today, hoping they sleep right through it![/quote]

  7. jonsie says:

    Looking at the video, it appears that today’s event was much less attended than when we had a parade. Maybe social networking isn’t all that it’s made out to be?

  8. Hudsonia says:

    “Can’t those engineering students figure out how to jury rig the smoke detectors to not get set-off by bong hits?”

    I think you mean ‘jerry-rig’.

  9. YipYap says:

    Lots of people sitting on the sidewalk outside of Benny’s eating pizza, most restaurants on Washington St are packed as well. Garbage strewn up and down Washington St. Seems to be more people in town now than when that video above was shot. I also saw six television mobile TV reporting vans around town. I gather the reporting on the news tonight will be an interesting watch. Anyone know how many arrests and summons issued so far?

    • hoboken411 says:

      @Yap – People I’ve spoken with think the overall scene was much better than previous parade years. Not sure about the summonses, but I bet the arrests are down. You never know, though. Lots of police presence might show an uptick in enforcements.

  10. YipYap says:

    re # 71 -rag246 and I am the delusional one who needs to get help. LOL!
    I remember when the TV Show COPS did an episode on Hoboken back in the early 1990s it was all about some little rowdy party town Hoboken on a Saturday night. Heck I remember heading down River St back in the late 80s to watch the fights on Saturday night after the clubs let out. The newer people in town want change, they have kids and want a quiet peaceful place to raise their children. I get it but they really don’t know where they moved to and what goes on in this town. They are also ignoring the fact that the house parties their neighbors host are the main issue on a day like today not so much the bars. If Mayor Zimmer wants to end this day she will need to shut down the liquor stores, the bars and all entrances into town. There is no other way to change Hoboken. The real question is will doing all that change Hoboken for the better? Those very same young adults who came here to party today end up wanting to live here and many do move here. Will Mayor Zimmer kill the Golden Goose?
    Well that remains to be seen.

    • rag246 says:

      You really can’t use River Street as a proxy for the whole town. But I get it. In the 80’s / early 90’s Hoboken had a rep for being a rough place. At that time I was going to NJIT though so Hoboken looked calm to me. [quote comment=”214418″]re # 71 -rag246 and I am the delusional one who needs to get help. LOL! I remember when the TV Show COPS did an episode on Hoboken back in the early 1990s it was all about some little rowdy party town Hoboken on a Saturday night. Heck I remember heading down River St back in the late 80s to watch the fights on Saturday night after the clubs let out. The newer people in town want change, they have kids and want a quiet peaceful place to raise their children. I get it but they really don’t know where they moved to and what goes on in this town. They are also ignoring the fact that the house parties their neighbors host are the main issue on a day like today not so much the bars. If Mayor Zimmer wants to end this day she will need to shut down the liquor stores, the bars and all entrances into town. There is no other way to change Hoboken. The real question is will doing all that change Hoboken for the better? Those very same young adults who came here to party today end up wanting to live here and many do move here. Will Mayor Zimmer kill the Golden Goose? Well that remains to be seen.[/quote]

  11. MidnightRacer says:

    rag posted to Mr. Friendly, “Johnny, 7 years? 2005? Sorry you bought in at the height of the bubble, buddy. Guess what? There was a town there and a culture before you showed up.

    I lived in Hoboken since the late 90s, and before I moved in I had friends there. Left in 2008 (and I didn’t take that long a walk…I still go to my local now and then, and they still know my name and let me in the door for free even if there’s a line and a cover).”

    And before you arrived in the 90’s there was a previous culture, and before them, several previous cultures going way back. And before that, the german culture was forced out for the world war. Way before that, there were the original suburb kids (the Lenape indians-natives) who came to Hoboken to party at campsites on what they called Hobocan Hackingh. They had their culture as well, but you and your affiliated culture replaced all the ones before. So you complaining about yuppies replacing yours amounts to pots and kettles playing musical chairs. And ironically, you and Mr. Friendly seem to be complaining about people you don’t like coming to town to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (from a bottle). Ironic, right? Except, you complain about the yuppies, Mr. Friendly is quite unfriendly to the suburb kids who visit. Even the Lenape tribe so long ago came to Hoboken to party. For them, Hoboken was where you set camp and smoke up some herbal goodies – in the name of the pursuit of happiness. Rag, I know you don’t complain about the celebration, but it just seems that you and J-boy share the same complaints about groups you don’t like.

    Just say’n. Take it, leave it, I don’t care. Vent against your (both) rant…

    • rag246 says:

      Good points…you’re one of the smarter old timers on this board.

      When I moved to Hoboken, I decided it was perfect and didn’t want it to change. I liked River Street being a wasteland. I liked the Maxwell factory.

      I suppose I can’t blame the Roberts and family and others for cleaning up like they did; Hoboken was a gold mine.

      I don’t fault the Yuppies (actually that’s not what they are; they are really displaced suburbanites who want the white picket fence with a very short commute) for finding value in Hoboken, either. I did. I have a kid now and I would move back if it weren’t for the fact that I’d be paying Yankees taxes and getting Mets services, especially with regard to schools (blatant perjury from a current Wodka billboard). For that I fault the entrenched old guard who are happy to take the newbie’s money but don’t want to cede control.

      Anyway, as far as the party is concerned, the same people complaining used to be the attendees, especially the fresh from out of towners. Hypocritical, no?

      Why are two guys who left town having a discussion on this board? Cheers. [quote comment=”214419″]rag posted to Mr. Friendly, “Johnny, 7 years? 2005? Sorry you bought in at the height of the bubble, buddy. Guess what? There was a town there and a culture before you showed up.I lived in Hoboken since the late 90s, and before I moved in I had friends there. Left in 2008 (and I didn’t take that long a walk…I still go to my local now and then, and they still know my name and let me in the door for free even if there’s a line and a cover).”And before you arrived in the 90′s there was a previous culture, and before them, several previous cultures going way back. And before that, the german culture was forced out for the world war. Way before that, there were the original suburb kids (the Lenape indians-natives) who came to Hoboken to party at campsites on what they called Hobocan Hackingh. They had their culture as well, but you and your affiliated culture replaced all the ones before. So you complaining about yuppies replacing yours amounts to pots and kettles playing musical chairs. And ironically, you and Mr. Friendly seem to be complaining about people you don’t like coming to town to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (from a bottle). Ironic, right? Except, you complain about the yuppies, Mr. Friendly is quite unfriendly to the suburb kids who visit. Even the Lenape tribe so long ago came to Hoboken to party. For them, Hoboken was where you set camp and smoke up some herbal goodies – in the name of the pursuit of happiness. Rag, I know you don’t complain about the celebration, but it just seems that you and J-boy share the same complaints about groups you don’t like.Just say’n. Take it, leave it, I don’t care. Vent against your (both) rant…[/quote]

  12. JohnnyFriendly says:

    Rag —

    The reason I have ZERO problem with tickets for looking at the police cross-eyed is simple. The City of Hoboken, right or wrong (right, in my opinion) decided that enough was enough following last year’s shenanigans. They formally cancelled the parade in an effort to end this event. They are well within their right to do so, and I believe that due to the changing population in this town (older, more family oriented), the decision reflects the majority view of the people of Hoboken.

    A small group of kids who live here decided to try to circumvent the will of the city through a social networking site (which the kids made $ off of by selling t-shirts), and forced the city to spend a great deal of money to deal with the onslaught of drunkards that would again invade Hoboken today.

    If the city does not want this event here any longer, which they have publicly stated, and is unwilling to take the extreme step of declaring martial law or closing the bars every first Saturday in March, they have only ONE other option: to make this a VERY unpleasant place to congregate to drink and fight and vomit and urinate. The only way to do that is to STRICTLY enforce the written laws, and actively ticket ALL offenders.

    Now you might not like that, but it’s a fact. They city has a responsibility to the residents of Hoboken, not to the “good times for all at any cost” mindset of those that come here and choose to treat this town like a rental car every year.

  13. YipYap says:

    MidnightRacer – I remember when you announced you were leaving. I hope the family is well, and you are prospering in the burbs.

    The latest faction living here wants it all, the short commute, the nightlife when it suits them and most of all not to be challenged when they cross against the light as they listen to the latest Kelly Clarkson hit on their iPod as they stroll into traffic not bothering to look anyway never mind both ways. They truly are an entitled generation, to be them must really be special and surreal.

    I will be joining you one day as my family is growing and well there is a shortage of three bedrooms in town that won’t be solved anytime soon.

    • MidnightRacer says:

      Hey YipYap,

      2009, I sold one property to buy another – got lucky with timing for both, half acre, low taxes, top 10 school, and civil neighbors. Still visit Hoboken. Can’t find good pizza like Grimaldi’s Hoboken. If you’re planning the next stage, can’t beat the interest rates for a 15 or 30 mortgage.

      As far as the populace of Hoboken goes, who cares – there always seems to be enough good to tolerate the bad. Applies everywhere you go, difference is only in the degree. It’s like enjoying the first poured glass at a bar being the best of the night of being watered down. Good with the Bad. Gotta take the Poison to enjoy the life.

      Every night has its thorn
      Just like every night has its dawn

      Just like every J-boy sings his sad, sad song
      We all go our separate ways[quote comment=”214421″]MidnightRacer – I remember when you announced you were leaving. I hope the family is well, and you are prospering in the burbs.The latest faction living here wants it all, the short commute, the nightlife when it suits them and most of all not to be challenged when they cross against the light as they listen to the latest Kelly Clarkson hit on their iPod as they stroll into traffic not bothering to look anyway never mind both ways. They truly are an entitled generation, to be them must really be special and surreal.I will be joining you one day as my family is growing and well there is a shortage of three bedrooms in town that won’t be solved anytime soon.[/quote]

      • YipYap says:

        Yeah, I am analyzing the burbs for a new nest, and I am happy to see you haven’t left us hanging about the other side, since most are fire and forget.

        Thanks for the Brett lyrics… [quote comment=”214427″]Hey YipYap,2009, I sold one property to buy another – got lucky with timing for both, half acre, low taxes, top 10 school, and civil neighbors. Still visit Hoboken. Can’t find good pizza like Grimaldi’s Hoboken. If you’re planning the next stage, can’t beat the interest rates for a 15 or 30 mortgage.As far as the populace of Hoboken goes, who cares – there always seems to be enough good to tolerate the bad. Applies everywhere you go, difference is only in the degree. It’s like enjoying the first poured glass at a bar being the best of the night of being watered down. Good with the Bad. Gotta take the Poison to enjoy the life.Every night has its thorn Just like every night has its dawnJust like every J-boy sings his sad, sad song We all go our separate ways[/quote]

  14. JohnnyFriendly says:

    MidnightRacer —

    Go to law school or run for political office — your historical, theoretical arguments have ZERO place in this discussion. You are making way more out of the point I am trying to make than is warranted, but it seems to please you to blather on and on about the Lenape indians and the Constitution. Carry on, friend. You gain ZERO traction with me, and you come off as a blowhard.

    • MidnightRacer says:

      Johnny, you basically want things your way. And I’m stuffing a pacifier to stop the flow of b.s.[quote comment=”214422″]MidnightRacer –Go to law school or run for political office — your historical, theoretical arguments have ZERO place in this discussion. You are making way more out of the point I am trying to make than is warranted, but it seems to please you to blather on and on about the Lenape indians and the Constitution. Carry on, friend. You gain ZERO traction with me, and you come off as a blowhard.[/quote]

      • JohnnyFriendly says:

        MidnightRacer — you have a VERY high opinion of yourself.

        I notice that you don’t acknowledge that the City of Hoboken does not want this event, either, and stated as much. Sounds like wanting things your way is an alien concept to you. You must be quite the martyr.

        The more I hear from you, the dumber you sound — I retract my earlier suggestion that you should go to law school — you’d never make it.[quote comment=”214424″]Johnny, you basically want things your way. And I’m stuffing a pacifier to stop the flow of b.s.[/quote]

      • MidnightRacer says:

        Yeah, dictator-wana-be’s are susceptible to being hurt, so they lash out. Nothing to see here.

        Whether or not the city wants the event does not matter, since government cannot stop the people from legal private affairs. People come to Hoboken to party, every week night of the year. Some nights more than others. Some may organize amongst their social circles. No crime. You argue the most pitiful position of the world’s most stature deprived dict’s – that private businesses should be punished because the ends justify the means, according to your rule, rather than the rights of others.

        All the complaints you mentioned are enforced. Yet, you want to stop people from enjoying life – something outside the control of government. You want to shut down businesses for nothing they did wrong – all in order to punish others.

        It’s apparent that dic-tator is a deserved title.[quote comment=”214425″]MidnightRacer — you have a VERY high opinion of yourself.I notice that you don’t acknowledge that the City of Hoboken does not want this event, either, and stated as much. Sounds like wanting things your way is an alien concept to you. You must be quite the martyr.The more I hear from you, the dumber you sound — I retract my earlier suggestion that you should go to law school — you’d never make it.[/quote]

    • YipYap says:

      Johnny Bananas sits on the bench one day, and then the world ends. Hopefully he hasn’t jaywalked or god forbid spat on the ground. Let’s bring back the dunking stool. There is plenty of room on Pier A for a hanging or two………..[quote comment=”214422″]MidnightRacer –Go to law school or run for political office — your historical, theoretical arguments have ZERO place in this discussion. You are making way more out of the point I am trying to make than is warranted, but it seems to please you to blather on and on about the Lenape indians and the Constitution. Carry on, friend. You gain ZERO traction with me, and you come off as a blowhard.[/quote]

      • JohnnyFriendly says:

        YipYap — you are a VERY scary personality type, from what I can glean from your comments. I’ve made it a point in my life to avoid people like you (to the extent that it’s possible), and I am going to do that in your case, because I can. Goodbye now.[quote comment=”214426″]Johnny Bananas sits on the bench one day, and then the world ends. Hopefully he hasn’t jaywalked or god forbid spat on the ground. Let’s bring back the dunking stool. There is plenty of room on Pier A for a hanging or two………..[/quote]

      • YipYap says:

        Bye[quote comment=”214428″]YipYap — you are a VERY scary personality type, from what I can glean from your comments. I’ve made it a point in my life to avoid people like you (to the extent that it’s possible), and I am going to do that in your case, because I can. Goodbye now.[/quote]

      • YipYap says:

        Johnny “people like me” make the world go around. I will take it easy since you are frightened, so should I suggest a more intolerant place again or is that passé?[quote comment=”214428″]YipYap — you are a VERY scary personality type, from what I can glean from your comments. I’ve made it a point in my life to avoid people like you (to the extent that it’s possible), and I am going to do that in your case, because I can. Goodbye now.[/quote]

      • hoboken411 says:

        Guys – why the back & forth? You don’t even know each other! Better yet, why not duke it out in the street, so I can add another interesting entry to the blotter? :)

      • JohnnyFriendly says:

        Ha! Smartest reply yet. Although if YipYap is correct, I’m too frightened to duke it out in the street. Hmmm…[quote comment=”214434″]Guys – why the back & forth? You don’t even know each other! Better yet, why not duke it out in the street, so I can add another interesting entry to the blotter? [/quote]

      • YipYap says:

        Johnny – You feel the need to cross swords! Welcome then, and be not afraid to sharpen your sword and when you are worthy you will be measured.[quote comment=”214435″]Ha! Smartest reply yet. Although if YipYap is correct, I’m too frightened to duke it out in the street. Hmmm…[/quote]

  15. MidnightRacer says:

    Mr. Friendly, do you even know what martial law is?

    The Hoboken (local) government has to cease to operate in a legal manner. Either corruption, or (natural) disaster may cause a thing. Quartzite, AZ is a case just last year where the mayor lost control and legal function of local government when several citizens vocalized their concerns of government corruption by the town’s board and police at an open town meeting. While the mayor supported the residents’ right to redress of grievances, the local town council told the corrupt cop to arrest her for airing her complaints. The mayor responded by ordering the cop to stand down for her right to petition. The council person told the cop to not listen to the mayor and arrest her. Council person was out of order. The mayor lost control of legal government. The feds were contacted, and the military was called for order. That’s an example of martial law – when local government cannot operate, and it is only possible to manage by military force.

    But of course, like the rest of your posts, you argue for the abuse of power, to be corrupt in the name of your feelings. Let’s review:

    You argue that government has the absolute authority to:

    • shut down private businesses for nothing they did wrong
    • have absolute authority over free speech, and thus deprive the people of natural rights
    • abuse power
    • declare martial law themselves, instead of having Congress declare it correctly, because some kid pukes in the street, in order to shut down private businesses for your ideological wants and desires.

    • JohnnyFriendly says:

      MidnightRacer —

      I reiterate my last observations about you. I will add that you are exceptionally paranoid. Everything in life that you disagree with is not an attack on your freedom. It’ll be okay. Really. [quote comment=”214423″]Mr. Friendly, do you even know what martial law is?The Hoboken (local) government has to cease to operate in a legal manner. Either corruption, or (natural) disaster may cause a thing. Quartzite, AZ is a case just last year where the mayor lost control and legal function of local government when several citizens vocalized their concerns of government corruption by the town’s board and police at an open town meeting. While the mayor supported the residents’ right to redress of grievances, the local town council told the corrupt cop to arrest her for airing her complaints. The mayor responded by ordering the cop to stand down for her right to petition. The council person told the cop to not listen to the mayor and arrest her. Council person was out of order. The mayor lost control of legal government. The feds were contacted, and the military was called for order. That’s an example of martial law – when local government cannot operate, and it is only possible to manage by military force.But of course, like the rest of your posts, you argue for the abuse of power, to be corrupt in the name of your feelings. Let’s review:You argue that government has the absolute authority to:• shut down private businesses for nothing they did wrong • have absolute authority over free speech, and thus deprive the people of natural rights • abuse power • declare martial law themselves, instead of having Congress declare it correctly, because some kid pukes in the street, in order to shut down private businesses for your ideological wants and desires.[/quote]

  16. curious says:

    I am one of those residents that hates this event- but I’ve gotta say that this year was not as bad as in the past. The drunks on my stoop were actually respectful when asked to move on, my neighbors held their parties indoor rather than on the roof, and nothing was damaged. Great work Hoboken PD and party people.

    • xxrjxx says:

      Me too–have to say that it wasn’t ssdy this time, whether due to the parade cancellation, poor weather start, negative hype or other factors. Frankly, I don’t care either–I’m just happy I don’t have to deal with vomit in the elevators and hallways, let alone other bodily fluids/waste matter.

      Perhaps some of the jaywalking ticketing was a bit over the top, but otherwise good job to the HPD (and supporting units) and HFD as well as the EMS crews. I’d be perfectly fine if we had a repetition of this year next year.[quote comment=”214442″]I am one of those residents that hates this event- but I’ve gotta say that this year was not as bad as in the past. The drunks on my stoop were actually respectful when asked to move on, my neighbors held their parties indoor rather than on the roof, and nothing was damaged. Great work Hoboken PD and party people.[/quote]

  17. 212transplant says:

    Last year was much worse, but still enjoyed the blotter this year. Large masses of drunks is quite humorous.

  18. klaatu says:

    The Seaside parade was way calmer than Hoboken again this year.

    • CapnJon says:

      and the Jersey City Parade yesterday was perfect, as always – great turnout, great crowds, great weather! A great time had by all…..[quote comment=”214554″]The Seaside parade was way calmer than Hoboken again this year.[/quote]

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