Shift differential pay for midnight cops?

Hoboken midnight shift the most hazardous – should cops get paid more?

It’s a fact that police officers in Hoboken who regularly work the midnight shift – have the most dangerous and hectic time as compared to other shifts.

Unruly crowds and lunatic drunks make up the biggest part of their job during those shifts (did you know there were 15 arrests last Friday night alone?)

That’s not saying being a police officer during any shift is without hazards, but many cities and agencies have acknowledged that the midnight shift is the least desirable and most difficult. And as a result, they offer shift differential pay. Some cities the extra pay is minimal, like a dollar an hour. But some cities pay much more – like NYC, which I believe is around 10% more – and the Federal Government – which is up to 25% more.

Hoboken is no “gated community,” and the the nonsense cops have to deal with during the late shifts is significant, considering the population density and number of alcohol establishments. Just take a look at the Hoboken Police Blotter on the weekends. Like an out of control zoo!

Would you support shift differential pay in Hoboken?

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24 Comments on "Shift differential pay for midnight cops?"

hobokenj
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hobokenj

WOW really shift pay. Should a Wal-Mart employee get paid more on Sat…it’s usually busier. ER is tougher at night…guess they should raise rates to save your life depending on time of day. It’s hot in July the gardner should charge double…come on people. This is their job. Some times its harder than others. I total respect that it must be exhausting dealing with the drunken stupidity but why is everyone so entitled to “MORE” all the time. I am sure they alternate this night shift and that it also goes to the newer police officers. Everyone has to put their time in.

whineanddineinhob
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whineanddineinhob

If it’s not already being done I’d definitely support it.

HearditallB4
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HearditallB4

IA!, so would I. Yes there are dangerous aspects no matter what shift they work, but it appears these incidences occur more frequently during those hours.[quote comment=”211049″]If it’s not already being done I’d definitely support it.[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

heard /sasha if you open your eyes and im sure one of you are related to a former cop give some thought to the jerk offs that enter our city from Chattem Summit,little falls berkley heights,up state Ny,south jersey,bergen county just to name a few..Do you thiink these crapper heads would get away with any chit in their home towns? Love the word Bistros,aka shit hole bars..Lock and load..68 in not like when you got a crack on the noggen for being our of order….Keep in mind Queen Bee hired a shim from jersey city at 110k to over see the both depts..She has a plan..Stay tuned…Hang in there brother..There is a reason for everything..twilight zone.. 😛 [quote comment=”211051″]IA!, so would I. Yes there are dangerous aspects no matter what shift they work, but it appears these incidences occur more frequently during those hours.[/quote]

escaped68
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Are you sure of that?? I have never heard of any police or fire contract where they didn’t get shift differentail or longivity.

sasha
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sasha

The PSOA and PBA contracts have a longevity clause based on years of service as all
Fire and Municipal Employees have in their contracts. However, there is no shift differential
pay for working the midnight shift in the HPD. There is no midnight shift in the HFD: 24hrs
on, 72 hrs off for most firefighters. Shift differential would have to be written in their
contracts. Most cities have shift differential for their Police Personel.[quote comment=”211048″]Are you sure of that?? I have never heard of any police or fire contract where they didn’t get shift differentail or longivity.[/quote]

escaped68
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Shame on the PBA & POSA.[quote comment=”211053″]The PSOA and PBA contracts have a longevity clause based on years of service as all Fire and Municipal Employees have in their contracts. However, there is no shift differential pay for working the midnight shift in the HPD. There is no midnight shift in the HFD: 24hrs on, 72 hrs off for most firefighters. Shift differential would have to be written in their contracts. Most cities have shift differential for their Police Personel.[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

68 old monroe buddy ..queen bee has ulterior motives /why do you thing she spent taxpayers money on a reject from jersey city at 110k to over see the hpd and hfd? dump the chiefs. you just give time time..remember where is a cop when you need him her?
[quote comment=”211061″]Shame on the PBA & POSA.[/quote]

escaped68
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This benefit has been in all collective bargaining agree since the romans walked a post. I have a feeling someone might have bargained it away for something else a while ago. This benefit was and has always been in the boiler plate part of almost every public sector agreement.[quote comment=”211070″]68 old monroe buddy ..queen bee has ulterior motives /why do you thing she spent taxpayers money on a reject from jersey city at 110k to over see the hpd and hfd? dump the chiefs. you just give time time..remember where is a cop when you need him her?[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

68 mark my words the romans wore sandels..greatest army in the world in that era in history..collective bargining in the teamsters,auto workers etc. understood unions over did it in all facets but,,,city workers are without a contract in 4 years…including municiple workers as well as the hfd..Bloomberg is a billlionare gets one dollar per year.you do the math.[quote comment=”211072″]This benefit has been in all collective bargaining agree since the romans walked a post. I have a feeling someone might have bargained it away for something else a while ago. This benefit was and has always been in the boiler plate part of almost every public sector agreement.[/quote]

Hobokant
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Hobokant

Would that mean that we lower their pay during the day shifts?

LobstaGirl
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LobstaGirl

A police officer job is a job, no matter what shift you work it should not regulate your pay scale…..Hard work and due diligence should dictate your pay scale. If you didn’t want to deal with drunks/violence then maybe it is the wrong job for you no matter what shift you work.

bornandrazedinhobo
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bornandrazedinhobo
Plain and simple, you have absolutely no idea about police work at all obviously. Anybody in any position especially police work that requires a 12am to 8am shift should be entitled to night diff regardless but again especially to those in Law Enforcement. Most cops do the night shift for the extra cash to support their families at a greater risk to themselves. Others do the night shift so they can see their family during the day with the night diff a little extra perk. Some departments start their night diff after 6pm in winter and 7pm in summer. I’ve worked night shift for almost 15 years by choice for both the money and the action personally. However for you to state that a police officers job is a job no matter what shift you work, then I’d love to put you on one midnight shift in the South Bronx or in Chicago’s South side or even in Philly in the dead of summer and see how you fair! Statistically more officers are killed in the summer between 12am and 4am than anywhere else. To say that a cops job is the same regardless is just stupid you cannot compare what takes place on a midnight tour in any major city like New York to something that takes on a midnight shift in Plum PA or any other zero to low crime town. A cops job in one city is nothing like that in another regardless of pay scale. You… Read more »
LobstaGirl
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LobstaGirl
Is the midnight shift more educated in special tactics or trained the same as the day shift? Hmmmmm?[quote comment=”211078″]Plain and simple, you have absolutely no idea about police work at all obviously. Anybody in any position especially police work that requires a 12am to 8am shift should be entitled to night diff regardless but again especially to those in Law Enforcement. Most cops do the night shift for the extra cash to support their families at a greater risk to themselves. Others do the night shift so they can see their family during the day with the night diff a little extra perk. Some departments start their night diff after 6pm in winter and 7pm in summer. I’ve worked night shift for almost 15 years by choice for both the money and the action personally. However for you to state that a police officers job is a job no matter what shift you work, then I’d love to put you on one midnight shift in the South Bronx or in Chicago’s South side or even in Philly in the dead of summer and see how you fair! Statistically more officers are killed in the summer between 12am and 4am than anywhere else. To say that a cops job is the same regardless is just stupid you cannot compare what takes place on a midnight tour in any major city like New York to something that takes on a midnight shift in Plum PA or any other zero to low crime… Read more »
bornandrazedinhobo
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bornandrazedinhobo

As a matter of fact there is special training for night shift on various levels depending on what unit if any you are in…that training focuses on tactics in low to no light scenarios. In addition to work night shift you need to add additional equipment as well including tact lights.[quote comment=”211081″]Is the midnight shift more educated in special tactics or trained the same as the day shift? Hmmmmm?[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

lobster legs then you stop a bullet but make sure you ware a vest over your bra. wisen up[quote comment=”211045″]A police officer job is a job, no matter what shift you work it should not regulate your pay scale…..Hard work and due diligence should dictate your pay scale. If you didn’t want to deal with drunks/violence then maybe it is the wrong job for you no matter what shift you work.[/quote]

LobstaGirl
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LobstaGirl

I choose another profession due to a well rounded education and know the inherent dangers of being a police officer be it if you are saving a kitten or bringing down drug dealers just as they do, it is their job. Then again, we all can’t retire with a pention like they do, can we?[quote comment=”211062″]lobster legs then you stop a bullet but make sure you ware a vest over your bra. wisen up[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

LOBSTER Girl.In corperate industury some recieve a nice bonus end of year..you may be one of them sitting behind a pc in a cubical,or maybe not…For a new kid on the block and so much to say,40+ years ago these people earned 6800 per year…Of course times change and these people earned what they have today..After WW2 a vet went to the post office or public saftey and the bennies were not all that great..Today many police and fireman /woman have college degrees as you stated a well rounded education. There was a tactical squard in the early 90’s 8pm to 4am with the rookies to get adjusted..Usuallly years ago nights was a form of punishment and politics..Usually many new kids start on the night shift with senior supervisors…The riots in the early 70’s were in the day and night.
Remember to get the facts then distort the truth all you want. The old timers paved the way for what these kids have today..If your under 35you can take the civil service test.
Give it a try.. 😉 [quote comment=”211080″]I choose another profession due to a well rounded education and know the inherent dangers of being a police officer be it if you are saving a kitten or bringing down drug dealers just as they do, it is their job. Then again, we all can’t retire with a pention like they do, can we?[/quote]

212transplant
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212transplant

What if you were told tomorrow that your job hours have now changed to 12am to 8am? And your chance for personal injury has now increased 100%.[quote comment=”211045″]A police officer job is a job, no matter what shift you work it should not regulate your pay scale…..Hard work and due diligence should dictate your pay scale. If you didn’t want to deal with drunks/violence then maybe it is the wrong job for you no matter what shift you work.[/quote]

LobstaGirl
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LobstaGirl

To begin, you are there to SERVE & PROTECT, no matter what conditions….. if you don’t want to deal with the consequences of the job or the hours, then it is the wrong job for you. Does everyone want a cushy job adn not to work? So, a bartender whom work evenings should make more than those during the day? They have to del with unruley drunks and comments, correct?[quote comment=”211046″]What if you were told tomorrow that your job hours have now changed to 12am to 8am? And your chance for personal injury has now increased 100%.[/quote]

212transplant
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212transplant

The bartender point is perfect. They get more tips and pay for dealing with the busier and rowdier crowd. Thanks! 😆 [quote comment=”211079″]To begin, you are there to SERVE & PROTECT, no matter what conditions….. if you don’t want to deal with the consequences of the job or the hours, then it is the wrong job for you. Does everyone want a cushy job adn not to work? So, a bartender whom work evenings should make more than those during the day? They have to del with unruley drunks and comments, correct?[/quote]

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