Letter: Zimmer allies support gun violence

Mayor Zimmer & Council Allies: “Threats of gun violence are okay!”

Hoboken Zoning Board of Adjustments member Nancy Pincus recently said publicly that she wanted to be on the FBI – and that she “would really want to shoot someone.”

She also stated publicly that she wanted to pull the trigger of a gun at the homes of both public officials and private residents that don’t agree with Mayor Zimmer. This follows up an outstanding track record of publicly displaying Nazi hate imagery and fecal soup.

Letter: Hoboken has become morally bankrupt

“When did “I’ve always wanted to shoot someone” become acceptable dialogue between a government official and the public?

In a time when anti-bullying laws are sweeping national headlines and the state of New Jersey is leading the way on its anti-bullying “zero tolerance” measures and law enforcement is investigating all threats of violence in print and online, Mayor Dawn Zimmer and her council allies Ravi Bhalla, Carol Marsh, Peter Cunningham, Dave Mello and Jen Giattino are taking Hoboken back to the dark ages, not only looking the other way, but encouraging their hardcore supporters to incite violence. How so? By allowing Zoning Board member, Nancy Pincus, to have the right to say whatever she wants, even if what she’s saying violates someone else’s civil liberties (i.e. A threat of force is a violation of civil liberties.)

At Wednesday night’s council meeting we saw the inaction of the Zimmer council majority again at play. Instead of standing up for what’s right, they hid behind their lame “defense” of Pincus. Corporation Counsel Mark Tabakin called for a closed session to “protect a city employees rights” – and now we have a government body condoning not only racist propaganda, but violent threats as well!

Remember during Zimmer’s mayoral campaign when she and her team announced that they would cast the net far and wide for qualified and talented people to hire and appoint to all of the government positions? Well, they scraped the bottom of the barrel when they appointed Pincus. Why do they keep her on? Because Pincus does their dirty work, the things the Zimmer majority think are beneath them. While they spout off about “civil discourse” and bringing everyone together and unifying Hoboken they have Nancy Pincus contradicting everything that they say they stand for.

(When called to vote on whether to remove Ms. Pincus from the Zoning Board – the video clip below clearly shows that 6th Ward Councilwoman Jen Giattino is a puppet for the Zimmer administration and allies – as Carol Marsh immediately tells her how to vote like talking down to a child):

What if they were targets of Pincus’ shooting fantasies?

“Perhaps Councilmen Mello and Cunningham would be more concerned if the tables were turned. If Pincus publicly said she’d fire shots at the Wallace School, a home on Garden Street, and a condo in the Sky Club, would her threats be taken more seriously? Or at least recognized as “behavior unfit of a government official?” Would parents at Wallace find this funny? Would Cunningham and Mello find it funny that the homes of their families were proposed targets of gun violence?

Heck, Mello was offended by a Halloween Decoration last year!

But let’s simplify this further. Many Zimmer supporters are trying to “minimize” this latest Pincus incident by categorizing her as a “harmless nut job” who thinks she’s funny. What makes them qualified to say this? They should ask the people at Virginia Tech, Tucson-AZ, Utoeya-Norway, Littleton-CO, and any community that has dealt with a person who was a “harmless nut job,” how that worked out for them. The recent shooting in Carson City, Nevada was committed by a man with no record of violence. He wasn’t on anyone’s radar. Nancy Pincus, on the other hand, claims it’s just a joke.

Here’s a reminder to Ravi Bhalla, Peter Cunningham, Carol Marsh, Dave Mello and Jen Giattino: You serve the public, not Zimmer, not yourselves. The public. You owe it to the public to appoint top notch representatives to the Zoning Board of Adjustments and all municipal boards. You failed big time. Not only did you fail, you just told every Hoboken resident that the venomous garbage that comes out of Nancy Pincus’ mouth, including her threats of gun violence, are more important than the public’s right to be represented by a person of high caliber and exceptional character on the ZBA. And now the public knows that this administration cannot truly favor reform or good government if it continues to look the other way while one of its own appointees carries on with a very public position of violence towards others. And Zimmer’s political operatives don’t help, since they have become such blindly devoted and brainwashed followers that they cannot even open their eyes and see the the hypocrisy behind the administration’s corrupt actions.

Webster’s definition:
Corrupt
2. Debased in character.

Sincerely,
A resident who is sick of our local government

33 Responses

  1. whineanddineinhob says:

    LMAO. You just had to mention Dave Mellow, one of the biggest sing-song whiners on the council. Well Mr. Mellow, you have a little over one month to explain to your daughter what a “mock-up” coffin is and what it looks like. Wouldn’t want her thinking you’ve been dead and buried for a 2nd time in your lifetime.

    btw: only mentioned the child, since it was brought up by Mellow himself at the time. I don’t condone involving the children of anyone in a political dispute. Unless of course, they stupidly involve them themselves to prove their argument.

    • Dperez says:

      Dude, that is really low of you to mention Mellow’s child even though he did. [quote comment=”210622″]LMAO. You just had to mention Dave Mellow, one of the biggest sing-song whiners on the council. Well Mr. Mellow, you have a little over one month to explain to your daughter what a “mock-up” coffin is and what it looks like. Wouldn’t want her thinking you’ve been dead and buried for a 2nd time in your lifetime.btw: only mentioned the child, since it was brought up by Mellow himself at the time. I don’t condone involving the children of anyone in a political dispute. Unless of course, they stupidly involve them themselves to prove their argument.[/quote]

      • whineanddineinhob says:

        Grow Up Dude. My response was directed to Mello “TO TEACH” his child about a mock-up coffin since he’s a teacher himself in NY Public schools. It would be the same as if I told YOU to teach YOUR child manners if posters witnessed bad manners in a restaurant which you condoned. Nothing insulting was directed towards the child himself. It was Mello himself who, on public tv, went on and on about how upset his child was observing this halloween event. [quote comment=”210687″]Dude, that is really low of you to mention Mellow’s child even though he did.[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        Whine dont waste your print..That Perez is one of the Zimmeretts..Your preaching to the choir..You must keep in mind the majority of the council was swept in on the mayors ticket.Cutsoms that have been going on for years are always going to be criticized but but not the antics of the raving Zoning Officer.. Guess Mello is not offended by threatning comments from one of there own.. How far is the town mothers and fathers gonna let this loose cannon reload? : 😡 [quote comment=”210692″]Grow Up Dude. My response was directed to Mello “TO TEACH” his child about a mock-up coffin since he’s a teacher himself in NY Public schools. It would be the same as if I told YOU to teach YOUR child manners if posters witnessed bad manners in a restaurant which you condoned. Nothing insulting was directed towards the child himself. It was Mello himself who, on public tv, went on and on about how upset his child was observing this halloween event.[/quote]

      • whineanddineinhob says:

        That’s exactly my point in responding wiskey. You give one of these zimmeretts an inch and next time they think they can take a yard. Not gonna happen.[quote comment=”210693″]Whine dont waste your print..That Perez is one of the Zimmeretts..Your preaching to the choir..You must keep in mind the majority of the council was swept in on the mayors ticket.Cutsoms that have been going on for years are always going to be criticized but but not the antics of the raving Zoning Officer.. Guess Mello is not offended by threatning comments from one of there own.. How far is the town mothers and fathers gonna let this loose cannon reload? : [/quote]

  2. youme66 says:

    Nancy Pincus is sick and depraved. No true reform government would appoint or hire her. This says everything about the Zimmer Administration.

    How does Zimmer and the MarshMello gang sell Pincus as “Change that’s Working?”

    Oh right, it’s Change that’s Working for their personal political agenda.

    Don’t forget Pincus’ previous handiwork: http://hoboken411.com/archives/53855

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      This person you speak of is two french frys short of a happy meal..Remember many of the malcontent voted for this crew two years ago. :( [quote comment=”210623″]Nancy Pincus is sick and depraved. No true reform government would appoint or hire her. This says everything about the Zimmer Administration.How does Zimmer and the MarshMello gang sell Pincus as “Change that’s Working?”Oh right, it’s Change that’s Working for their personal political agenda.Don’t forget Pincus’ previous handiwork: [/quote]

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      in regard to these terroristic threats i would think the feds should look into this wackos comments…This is a loose cannon.. 😳 [quote comment=”210623″]Nancy Pincus is sick and depraved. No true reform government would appoint or hire her. This says everything about the Zimmer Administration.How does Zimmer and the MarshMello gang sell Pincus as “Change that’s Working?”Oh right, it’s Change that’s Working for their personal political agenda.Don’t forget Pincus’ previous handiwork: [/quote]

    • Dperez says:

      I guess she feels that the only way to create change is through blunt force. LOL! If Mayor Zimmer is smart, she would distance herself from this whacked out bitch pronto![quote comment=”210623″]Nancy Pincus is sick and depraved. No true reform government would appoint or hire her. This says everything about the Zimmer Administration.How does Zimmer and the MarshMello gang sell Pincus as “Change that’s Working?”Oh right, it’s Change that’s Working for their personal political agenda.Don’t forget Pincus’ previous handiwork: [/quote]

  3. Hoboken1954A says:

    Talk about UNACCEPTABLE behavior, this Pincus person needs to be commited & treated for her Madness.
    What can the public / voters now do to get this Bullyi removed NOW, before there is a Tragedy?
    If the Mayor & her Council supporters continue to encourage this woman, there will be violence. maybe they want everyone to carry our own weapons, fairly sure there may ne some Sharpshooters ready to oblige this Mad woman.
    WTH is going on in this city, and why is it allowed?

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      1954 this pork chop is no body except a photo shop professional…Would you consider these terroristic comments something the feds should look into? As hs truman said the buck stops here..this person has to be questioned by the feds and the blaim falls on we know who..wow … 😮 [quote comment=”210628″]Talk about UNACCEPTABLE behavior, this Pincus person needs to be commited & treated for her Madness.What can the public / voters now do to get this Bullyi removed NOW, before there is a Tragedy?If the Mayor & her Council supporters continue to encourage this woman, there will be violence. maybe they want everyone to carry our own weapons, fairly sure there may ne some Sharpshooters ready to oblige this Mad woman.WTH is going on in this city, and why is it allowed?[/quote]

  4. YipYap says:

    When does a joke actually equal a real threat? I would think that in this day and age if I cannot use a bathroom in-flight for more than a few minutes before the flight attendants and the pilots call in a squadron of F-16s and the swat team, then this person should at least the very least spend some time in the EOU (Extended Observation Unit) at Bellevue Hospital. 😉

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      yip yap imagine if this lug nut gets her hands on a smith and western or a glock? shit willow terrice is in trouble…Now all the revolters and reformers now see what they elected. btw notice that donna the premadonna is not bitching because she making money. culture of corruption yeah but now its culture of looney tunes ..[quote comment=”210629″]When does a joke actually equal a real threat? I would think that in this day and age if I cannot use a bathroom in-flight for more than a few minutes before the flight attendants and the pilots call in a squadron of F-16s and the swat team, then this person should at least the very least spend some time in the EOU (Extended Observation Unit) at Bellevue Hospital. [/quote]

      • whineanddineinhob says:

        She’s probably being kept on the job for the fear of what “might happen” if they indeed did fire this nut. I don’t think they’re laughing behind their smiles.[quote comment=”210633″]yip yap imagine if this lug nut gets her hands on a smith and western or a glock? shit willow terrice is in trouble…Now all the revolters and reformers now see what they elected. btw notice that donna the premadonna is not bitching because she making money. culture of corruption yeah but now its culture of looney tunes ..[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        jonsie and whine..Her position is not a job..its an ego thing and a rubber stamp and properganderist for the mayor..You don’t fire her just let her go..She has denegrated so many people with her crap ass web site .question how would you like to find her in your corn flakes in the morning???????? Any comment such as she made should be investigated by the feds..The other new council girl is just another rubber stamp..[quote comment=”210638″]She’s probably being kept on the job for the fear of what “might happen” if they indeed did fire this nut. I don’t think they’re laughing behind their smiles.[/quote]

  5. jonsie says:

    Her words match her psychotic looks! 😯

  6. iforgotmymantra says:

    These public officials should be seriously concerned. If any threatened act of violence comes to fruition, and they knew it was an unstable person or a credible threat, they could be prosecuted and/or sued themselves. If I were in their positions, I would report any threats immediately.

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      mantra as you can see this cupcake has not been approached…Just any threat should be investigated by the feds..considering a terrorist comment..Mayors achilles heal..Is this wack worth it?? [quote comment=”210642″]These public officials should be seriously concerned. If any threatened act of violence comes to fruition, and they knew it was an unstable person or a credible threat, they could be prosecuted and/or sued themselves. If I were in their positions, I would report any threats immediately.[/quote]

  7. camel2 says:

    What concerns me most is the vulture-like look that monster hag Marsh gives the cutest council member Giattino as she cast her vote. She responds faster than atoms splitting NO!

    Is her job as a councilthing to represent the best interest of the public or to ensure a majority vote?

    This is a nauseating display of what some dipshits call democracy.

    • kooky kat says:

      “Councilthing” LOL [quote comment=”210659″]What concerns me most is the vulture-like look that monster hag Marsh gives the cutest council member Giattino as she cast her vote. She responds faster than atoms splitting NO!Is her job as a councilthing to represent the best interest of the public or to ensure a majority vote?This is a nauseating display of what some dipshits call democracy.[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        kat consider this nut job and her comments racial ethnic or other wise even against conveted jews means she needs an oil change..You respect the judgement of your mayor and wonder what the reason to have her spew venum on not only gentiles but jews as well this nutcase will lose votes for The/queen of the hop..I guess we can all type and say what we want..my grandfather with the 82nd airborne, liberated the death camp prisioners and got sick of the smell and mans humainity towards man women and children…this is an ungratefull kin for three generations that spews venom at people,and who is on dawns zoning board…God Bless the USA.. :roll: [quote comment=”210663″]“Councilthing” LOL[/quote]

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      Lots of respect for Carol at one time. This new princess Giattino is just another rubber stamp with no well /she lacks dignity and is not her own person..Prior to her seat when the council voted down the pd’s request as well as city workers regard layoffs,it showed what scumos they are..25,000 per year with bennies..More than any other council in the area. The paychecks come to around 225.000 per year..Nice work if you can get it for 12 hrs a month. :( [quote comment=”210659″]What concerns me most is the vulture-like look that monster hag Marsh gives the cutest council member Giattino as she cast her vote. She responds faster than atoms splitting NO!Is her job as a councilthing to represent the best interest of the public or to ensure a majority vote?This is a nauseating display of what some dipshits call democracy.[/quote]

  8. OpenEyes says:

    Remember Nancy Pincus (grafix avenger )is also the Graphic designer for Kids First.
    Either she is doing too many drugs or she has severe psychological problems or both.

    Analyzing her actions through the years of nasty attacks on people that disagree with
    Zimmer , Michael Lenz, or Kids First it is pretty clear that her “jokes ” reveal her true
    desires and feelings about her perceived enemies.

    You could also say that many of the groupies and blog supporters suffer severe psychological problems

  9. OpenEyes says:

    clarification

    You could also say that many of the Zimmer , Michael Lenz, or Kids First groupies and blog supporters suffer severe psychological problems

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      open eyes/yet the town fathers allow this type of behavor. Kinda scarey..[quote comment=”210728″]clarificationYou could also say that many of the Zimmer , Michael Lenz, or Kids First groupies and blog supporters suffer severe psychological problems[/quote]

  10. wiskeytango1 says:

    Responders.. There has been more than a few comments in regard to this person.. Joking or not, a terroristic threat in pun or serious should not be taken lightly.. This is up to her mentor and the authorities. 👿

  11. youme66 says:

    Good letter by Mr. Mason, one of Pincus’ targets:

    I wish to comment on Ms. Nancy Pincus’s letter that she posted on her blog in mid-August. My wife, Councilwoman Beth Mason, and I were on vacation with our family at the time, and so now is my first opportunity to react publicly.

    In her letter Ms. Pincus states that she has always wanted to shoot someone, and that she would like to come to a house on upper Hudson Street at 6 a.m. and shoot the door down if the person doesn’t answer it. We presume it’s our door.

    The United States Constitution allows each and every one of us to say the greatest, or the most appalling, words. Our First Amendment right of free speech is what sets this country apart from, say, Syria, where you can be shot in the street for calling on the president to resign, or North Korea, where if you complain about hunger you can go to prison for life.

    But with our First Amendment right, comes a responsibility of the same order, especially if the speaker is a political leader, like Ms. Pincus. We may all have sharp disagreements on political issues, but we should never suggest to resolve them by shooting our opponents. Ms. Pincus’s statement, available for all to see on the Internet, violated the most basic trust that the public puts in our leaders, to speak and behave in a manner that does not encourage or incite violence.

    Ms. Pincus is a close ally of Mayor Zimmer and the council majority. She is a member of the Zoning Board, on which she sits in a judicial capacity. Her statements demonstrate that, at a minimum, she does not have the demeanor to judge her fellow residents, particularly if they disagree with her on political issues. I am appalled that neither the mayor nor the majority have lifted a finger to remove her from this position, nor have they said anything about her public hankering to use a weapon against my home, other than, in the case of the council majority, to laugh it off as a joke. The mayor herself has said not a word.

    Ms. Pincus says that her letter was satire. But let me ask this: what if the same letter was written by a high school student, who said on-line that he would love to shoot a teacher? Would we think it was funny then? Would we sit by and do nothing?

    Sincerely,

    Ricky Mason

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      RICKEY.In respect to your statement,regarding that person”s comments ,I would file a harrassment and terriorest complaint and ask for police protection for your family..This person you mention is not a political figure but just an arse wipe for her idol..As an attorney its time to take action..You have daughters and a counsilwoman wife..The issue here is if its fun pun etc, 1st ammendent rights have limitations..This person is a reflection on the leader of this town..ACHILLES HEAL …Five out of the four council people are rubber stamps so forget dumping this person..time to call the AG…Your a lawyer and it’s your call to protect your family regardless if it’s just talk or serious..This is a loose cannon. Do what you have to do and even the mayor will not be able to save her .. :roll: [quote comment=”210842″]Good letter by Mr. Mason, one of Pincus’ targets:I wish to comment on Ms. Nancy Pincus’s letter that she posted on her blog in mid-August. My wife, Councilwoman Beth Mason, and I were on vacation with our family at the time, and so now is my first opportunity to react publicly.In her letter Ms. Pincus states that she has always wanted to shoot someone, and that she would like to come to a house on upper Hudson Street at 6 a.m. and shoot the door down if the person doesn’t answer it. We presume it’s our door.The United States Constitution allows each and every one of us to say the greatest, or the most appalling, words. Our First Amendment right of free speech is what sets this country apart from, say, Syria, where you can be shot in the street for calling on the president to resign, or North Korea, where if you complain about hunger you can go to prison for life.But with our First Amendment right, comes a responsibility of the same order, especially if the speaker is a political leader, like Ms. Pincus. We may all have sharp disagreements on political issues, but we should never suggest to resolve them by shooting our opponents. Ms. Pincus’s statement, available for all to see on the Internet, violated the most basic trust that the public puts in our leaders, to speak and behave in a manner that does not encourage or incite violence.Ms. Pincus is a close ally of Mayor Zimmer and the council majority. She is a member of the Zoning Board, on which she sits in a judicial capacity. Her statements demonstrate that, at a minimum, she does not have the demeanor to judge her fellow residents, particularly if they disagree with her on political issues. I am appalled that neither the mayor nor the majority have lifted a finger to remove her from this position, nor have they said anything about her public hankering to use a weapon against my home, other than, in the case of the council majority, to laugh it off as a joke. The mayor herself has said not a word.Ms. Pincus says that her letter was satire. But let me ask this: what if the same letter was written by a high school student, who said on-line that he would love to shoot a teacher? Would we think it was funny then? Would we sit by and do nothing?Sincerely,Ricky Mason[/quote]

  12. whineanddineinhob says:

    Sure was a nice letter Mr. Mason, but not worth a dime when even the threatened expect to win a war with words. Nancy Pincus should be fought and dismissed, and not able to obtain a job in the future with the city of Hoboken.

  13. mooshu says:

    This woman’s a fat bag of caca.

    That is all.

    • youme66 says:

      You’re being too kind to her. [quote comment=”211038″]This woman’s a fat bag of caca.That is all.[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        you me 66 ..Notice with first ammendment rights and predijuce the afro bus driver lost his case and tinker belll charges dropped..notice that no ag no prosicuters office stepped in nor did the naacp..guess rev al was busy in brooklyn..Where is the local chapter of the nnnacp in our area? disgrace…The issue is this person is allowed to denergrate people places and things and in respect to her mentor,shame shame..A reflection on the leader..Not one person stepped up to put a stop to this demeaning of others..Where the hell is the feds and the naacp? As for the Hospital fisaco can anyone tell me who is worth 100.00 per hr on that board of inept shims? 100.00 per hr and who pays that fee? Review that bunch that sits on the board..Call mile square towing ..100.00 per hour kids dont earn in fast foot stores .Culture of corruption yeah,but now it’s culture of chaos..Lord help us..Thank u reformers for voting in a perfect fit to the end of Hoboken politics. :mrgreen: [quote comment=”211060″]You’re being too kind to her.[/quote]

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      in regard to mile square towing for one of the board members you need a fork lift[quote comment=”211038″]This woman’s a fat bag of caca.That is all.[/quote]

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