How many languages does America need?

Phone menus becoming ridiculous!

Not sure if any of you are picking up on this – but I always thought we lived in America, and spoke English over here.

Nowadays, the phone menus when you call a corporation (here in English-speaking America), the language options are getting worse (as well as the time you waste waiting…)

Listen to this menu at PNC bank. Not only do you get English & Spanish – now there’s a THIRD language. I can’t even determine what it is – and they use PROFANITY!

Who here thinks that the non-English speaking customers should have THEIR OWN PHONE NUMBER, so those of us who can speak and read English, don’t need to be bothered?

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30 Comments on "How many languages does America need?"

Journey
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Journey

Many of my ancestors immigrated back when asimulation was not an issue. The were English and Dutch colonist. They lived in their own communities speaking the language and continuing the traditions of their homeland.

Any group of people that immigrate in large enough numbers will do that. That is why English is a Germanic language not Celtic or what ever Preceeded the Celtic languages.

History is also full of examples of invading culture forcing the invades to assimulate. Celtic languages had been illegal in the UK.

My ancestors that did asimulate didn’t just abandone their native language they passed nothing down. I know so little about German and Polish culture. I grew up with more knowledge of Italian-Amerians than anything from my own background. I grew up in an Italian American neighborhood. If it had been a Cuban America neighborhood that is what I would learned about. Nature abores a vacuum and will fill the empty space with whatever is available.

The desendent of a Mayflower immigrant with insomnia will now try and chase some zzz.

How many of you pro asimulation fans still enjoy foods that are part of your family’s heritage?

empirestate25
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empirestate25

When the europeans came to this country they had to learn English if they wanted to assimilate into society. Sorry to say they people who come now are takers, Europeans gave back to this country with their skills, no one ever was on the dole. The people who come here today come and get everything handed to them. They also want us to speak their language well I say the language inthis country is ENGLISH learn it. More money is wasted by the US Government printing documents in all these languages. No one ever gave the Europeans anything they worked hard, obeyed the laws, and were pround to be American, all I hear today is well in my country they do this and that, well go back to your country if it is so great.

hoboken54
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hoboken54
I agree empire and rest. English should be only one. it makes people lazy to learn. If your born here and speak mostly your home country lingo, its not cool. I’m not being racist or anything, its just this country was built on learning. Men dug ditches ,built bridges and built america. Hard work. You come now, you get welfare and medical. I lived here all my life, I got to pay. So have some american pride, speak american. All others learned. And all was abused. My friend i’m sorry, but irish was low on pole too, even speaking english. All europe was not welcome,even brits,irish, poles etc. If you know your history, There was signs in windows, Irish need not apply for work. So it wasn’t just one. It was all. Usa lets discontinue press 2 for this or that. just press 1 for number 1 country. AMERICAN English [quote comment=”209248″]When the europeans came to this country they had to learn English if they wanted to assimilate into society. Sorry to say they people who come now are takers, Europeans gave back to this country with their skills, no one ever was on the dole. The people who come here today come and get everything handed to them. They also want us to speak their language well I say the language inthis country is ENGLISH learn it. More money is wasted by the US Government printing documents in all these languages. No one ever gave the Europeans anything they… Read more »
Bullbreed333
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Bullbreed333

You’re certainly not making a great case for the mastery of writing English…

I’m glad that you have prefaced your arguments with “I’m not being a racist or anything”, for a second there I thought you were afraid of other cultures.

[quote comment=”209291″]I agree empire and rest. English should be only one. it makes people lazy to learn. If your born here and speak mostly your home country lingo, its not cool. I’m not being racist or anything, its just this country was built on learning. Men dug ditches ,built bridges and built america. Hard work. You come now, you get welfare and medical. I lived here all my life, I got to pay. So have some american pride, speak american. All others learned. And all was abused. My friend i’m sorry, but irish was low on pole too, even speaking english. All europe was not welcome,even brits,irish, poles etc. If you know your history, There was signs in windows, Irish need not apply for work. So it wasn’t just one. It was all.Usa lets discontinue press 2 for this or that. just press 1 for number 1 country. AMERICAN English[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

bull its not a melting pot anymore..lets wisen up..irish was low on the pole except for the wasps in boston who posted signs irish need not apply in the name of/ religion? naa bull chit. Take a stroll through hoboken during the early 30s..and be an advicoate?funny chit..two slaps for hanging on the corner and in the jail ..No aclu then..When the Irish controlled the fruit lines on the water front east side ..forget it..times change ethnic groups change..lets not forget the purple gang formed by jewish gangsters..U have it right when you even call your cell phone or pc tech support..All prompts and the best part is do you speak farsi?? We are going down the tubes..Shame on the jerkoff libs.[quote comment=”209305″]You’re certainly not making a great case for the mastery of writing English…I’m glad that you have prefaced your arguments with “I’m not being a racist or anything”, for a second there I thought you were afraid of other cultures.[/quote]

HansBrix
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HansBrix

What’s all this “afraid of other cultures” crap you keep spouting on about? There’s a big difference between wanting to preserve the traditional american culture (the one proven to work) and “fearing” others. Unless you mean fearing displacement by the dysfunctional cultures that “immigrants” leave behind.[quote comment=”209305″]You’re certainly not making a great case for the mastery of writing English…I’m glad that you have prefaced your arguments with “I’m not being a racist or anything”, for a second there I thought you were afraid of other cultures.[/quote]

Bullbreed333
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Bullbreed333

Hans, you so eloquently reinforce what I “spout” about.[quote comment=”209308″]What’s all this “afraid of other cultures” crap you keep spouting on about? There’s a big difference between wanting to preserve the traditional american culture (the one proven to work) and “fearing” others. Unless you mean fearing displacement by the dysfunctional cultures that “immigrants” leave behind.[/quote]

HansBrix
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HansBrix

Have you ever noticed that the world wants to move TO countries founded on Anglo tradition (and to a lesser extent NW european nations) and AWAY from just about everywhere else? Ever wondered why that is? Is that a mere visitation of fate?

Are you curious about anything? Or do you prefer to living in a world of pretty lies and comforting myths, where anyone who dares to cross over your boundaries deserves shame and fact free ridicule?

Thought question for you: if Japan and italy swapped populations what would happen to those places? Would they be recognizable in 20 years?[quote comment=”209330″]Hans, you so eloquently reinforce what I “spout” about.[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1
25 100 years ago my ansestors were told to step aside and walk in the street when an irishman or wasp passed by..this was in astoria and later jersey city..A relitive uncle of mine in the military faced the same chit in italy with the rednecks calling him gunnie.he broke many heads for they picked on a light weight fighter..My mom was caught speaking italian to her sister in class and the nun sister smacked her and said speak english…they had no civil libertys or activists to complain to..That is a lot of bull with the curicculim in school (sorry typo) teaches english as a second language..Lots of kids are dying to protect our first ammendment rights and keep us safe.. 😉 [quote comment=”209248″]When the europeans came to this country they had to learn English if they wanted to assimilate into society. Sorry to say they people who come now are takers, Europeans gave back to this country with their skills, no one ever was on the dole. The people who come here today come and get everything handed to them. They also want us to speak their language well I say the language inthis country is ENGLISH learn it. More money is wasted by the US Government printing documents in all these languages. No one ever gave the Europeans anything they worked hard, obeyed the laws, and were pround to be American, all I hear today is well in my country they do this and that, well go back… Read more »
mooshu
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mooshu

Huh.

I think people should have the choice to learn others’ languages, but it seems it’s mandatory to learn anything from Spanish to Chinese in high schools and/or universities. I don’t think it’s a bad thing– exposure to another language is often fun, but it could be a waste of time if there’s something more valuable to learn.

If it gets you somewhere, learn another language. If you’re moving to Germany, it would help to learn to speak German. If you move here, it would help to speak English. It’s called ‘adapting to one’s environment’. Don’t cry when others don’t understand you.

IAmTheLaw
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IAmTheLaw

I welcome anyone who comes to America and assimilates and contributes to our culture and economy. The issue is that there are ever expanding areas with of immigrants who not only do not speak our language, but also do not know our laws, customs, etc and have no incentive to learn, given that they are living in what is effectively a colony of their homeland here in the USA. They live like they did in third world countries, propogating customs that condone things like animal abuse, denying human rights, etc all while consuming our resources.

Because of this overly permissive attitude that many seem to have towards immigration, the message we are sending is that not only is it ok for people to come here and do whatever the fuck they want, but we’ll even pay them to do so. And that is not ok.

johandsomeison
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johandsomeison

Agreed, immigrants should assimilate and not bring the third world country with them, that’s just not good at all, but we are talking about LANGUAGE.

If you go to most places in Africa they speak 4 languages fluently not including their local language. In Switzerland they have FOUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGES; Italian, German, French, Romanish.

In south Africa they have 11 OFFICIAL LANGUAGES, and it’s the 1st economic power in Africa.

I think that learning other languages here in America should be MANDATORY! [quote comment=”209198″]I welcome anyone who comes to America and assimilates and contributes to our culture and economy. The issue is that there are ever expanding areas with of immigrants who not only do not speak our language, but also do not know our laws, customs, etc and have no incentive to learn, given that they are living in what is effectively a colony of their homeland here in the USA. They live like they did in third world countries, propogating customs that condone things like animal abuse, denying human rights, etc all while consuming our resources.Because of this overly permissive attitude that many seem to have towards immigration, the message we are sending is that not only is it ok for people to come here and do whatever the fuck they want, but we’ll even pay them to do so. And that is not ok.[/quote]

Homeontherange
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Homeontherange

While I agree with your first sentences, I DISAGREE with your last sentence.
To make it mandatory for Americans learn other languages, is equal to taking away their Freedom Of Choice. As a 6th generation American decendant European backround, & all learned to speak, read & write English upon settleing here.
If I go to live in another country I will learn their language in order to assimilate there. However these days those who come to USA in many cases are 2nd & 3rd generation living here as Americans with with little of no knowledge of English. WHY? Easy answer not Mandatory…
[quote comment=”209219″]Agreed, immigrants should assimilate and not bring the third world country with them, that’s just not good at all, but we are talking about LANGUAGE.If you go to most places in Africa they speak 4 languages fluently not including their local language. In Switzerland they have FOUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGES; Italian, German, French, Romanish.In south Africa they have 11 OFFICIAL LANGUAGES, and it’s the 1st economic power in Africa.I think that learning other languages here in America should be MANDATORY![/quote]

HansBrix
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HansBrix

Mandatory?

It would be one thing if the USA was one of those small european countries with a different language across every border, where people are regularly in contact with others who speak those languages. But we’re not. So it’s more difficult to get started, more difficult to justify, and harder to maintain. How well would you maintain your skiing skills if you were a tax accountant living in the deep south?

Also, most people cannot distinguish a possessive from a plural. The burden of another language might be too great. [quote comment=”209223″]While I agree with your first sentences, I DISAGREE with your last sentence. To make it mandatory for Americans learn other languages, is equal to taking away their Freedom Of Choice. As a 6th generation American decendant European backround, & all learned to speak, read & write English upon settleing here. If I go to live in another country I will learn their language in order to assimilate there. However these days those who come to USA in many cases are 2nd & 3rd generation living here as Americans with with little of no knowledge of English. WHY? Easy answer not Mandatory…[/quote]

johandsomeison
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johandsomeison

Are you one of those fools that think that the United States is national property? if anything this country belongs to the natives, and they are not even natives, they migrated here like everyone else….

You seem to have the “freedom” concept messed up. Mandatory EDUCATION not only allows everyone to have more OPTIONS = (more freedom), but also enriches communities as a whole.

There couldn’t be anything further from that truth as to say that a language defines ONE CULTURE, that’s just pure ignorance!
[quote comment=”209223″]While I agree with your first sentences, I DISAGREE with your last sentence. To make it mandatory for Americans learn other languages, is equal to taking away their Freedom Of Choice. As a 6th generation American decendant European backround, & all learned to speak, read & write English upon settleing here. If I go to live in another country I will learn their language in order to assimilate there. However these days those who come to USA in many cases are 2nd & 3rd generation living here as Americans with with little of no knowledge of English. WHY? Easy answer not Mandatory…[/quote]

johandsomeison
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johandsomeison

THEN YOU SHOULD MOVE TO MISSISSIPPI AND START MISSISSIPPI411 LOL, down south you can get a lot of approval from your perspectives, over here in NYC you must keep up with US THE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK 4 LANGUAGES+++, in my case my first language was German and Portuguese, migrated to Colombia needed to learn spanish, then migrated here to USA and had to learn english.. it’s all about money and here in NYC us immigrants have a strong impact in the economy!

did you that in NYC 60% of the people DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH AT HOME????

:mrgreen:

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