Pedicabs – Doomed

7/27/2009 Update:

Updating this post from 2007 – one Hoboken411 reader was wondering what the status was with the Pedicabs in town – thinking there was a 6 month moratorium, and whether they’re eventually coming to town.

Pedicabs are banned

I inquired with Hoboken Corporation Counsel Steve Kleinman – and he doled out the bad news (which was unbeknownst to me for some odd reason – since this was done a while ago), that it’s officially written in city code that the Pedicabs are not welcome in Hoboken. He sent me the amended city code. Consider yourself informed!

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§ 179A-38. Pedicabs, Prohibited.
A. Findings.
The governing body of the City of Hoboken finds and declares that the use of pedicabs on the streets and sidewalks of the City will significantly increase existing pedestrian and vehicular congestion, and create safety issues for vehicles, pedestrians, and operators and passengers of pedicabs and similar forms of transportation. Therefore, for the health, safety, and welfare of the general public, the governing body of the City of Hoboken finds that it is necessary to prohibit the operation of pedicabs within the corporate limits of the City.

B. “Pedicab” Defined.
“Pedicab” means: (1) A bicycle that has three or more wheels, that transports, or is capable of transporting, passengers on seats attached to the bicycle, that is operated by one or more persons, whether human propelled or motor assisted, and that is used for transporting passengers or property; or (2) A bicycle that pulls or pushes a trailer, sidecar, or similar device, that transports, or is capable of transporting passengers on seats attached to the trailer, sidecar, or similar device, that is operated by one or more persons whether human propelled or motor assisted and that is used for transporting one or more passengers or property.

“Pedicab business” means a commercial enterprise, that employs or contracts with one or more operator(s), which engages in providing transportation via pedicab, for any form of compensation including gratuities and/or donations, on either public or private property, or both.

C. Prohibition on Pedicabs.
It is unlawful for any person to operate a pedicab business within the corporate limits of the City of Hoboken.

D. Penalties.
In the event that anyone violates the provisions of this section, both the operator and owner of the pedicab shall be liable, and the Hoboken Municipal Court shall retain jurisdiction to adjudicate all violations with the penalty to be a fine of no less than one hundred dollars ($100.00) for the first offense, two hundred dollars ($200.00) for the second offense and every offense thereafter.

See previous updates after the jump…

4/14/2007 Update:

Some rumors going around that these Pedicabs were going to be spotted today, and a Roving Hoboken411 Reporter went out looking for them:


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4/4/2007:
What are your thoughts about this? Here are some of mine:

  • “great, good for the environment & more transportation choices”
  • “holy crap, imagine the traffic jams as these pedicabs (going 8mph) try to navigate around double parkers all around town, causing slower traffic all behind them”
  • “Hmmm, maybe less car and pedestrian accidents if everyone is going slower”
  • “I can get there faster if I walk. Plus it’s exercise.”
  • “How soon before there is a casualty?”

They have them in NYC, but I’ve only seen tourists use them. Would anyone be caught dead in one of these?

Pedicabs prep to roll

pedicab-hoboken.jpgHoboken’s first pedicab entrepreneurs are mobilizing their fleet to be operational later this month.

Pedi Trans, LLC, is the brainchild of Chris Costello of North Bergen and his cousin, Tony Vlachos, a Jersey City cop. They’re seeking to eventually operate in Jersey City, Belmar, Atlantic City, Ocean Grove and Asbury Park, but Hoboken is their “bread and butter,” Costello says.

They’re shooting for an April 21 start date and are currently seeking operators.

The cousins plan to start with 10 vehicles or fewer, and Costello contests the notion that pedicabs threaten the livelihood of taxi drivers. He thinks his fleet will be utilized mostly by people wishing to go short distances – as well as for special events like weddings and sightseeing.

Operators will pay a fee to drive the vehicles, and the cash they take in from passengers is theirs to keep. In this initial roll-out phase, there’s no fixed price for people hailing a pedicab on the street; they are expected to graciously tip their driver. Those who call the dispatcher requesting a pick-up will pay a rate that has yet to be determined.

It doesn’t require exceptional brawn to drive a pedicab, Costello says. He the average woman could do it. Only a driver’s license, a record free of DUIs and participation in a one-day course are needed.

According to Hoboken Councilwoman Theresa LaBruno, pedicab owners don’t currently need a special license to operate in the city.

“I’m very confident that the pedicab business in Hoboken isn’t going to cause chaos or confusion,” she added.

The parking and transportation subcommittee LaBruno chairs will discuss pedicabs at its meeting today at 5 p.m. in City Council chambers, 94 Washington St. The meeting is open to the public.

216 Responses

  1. rapperd says:

    [quote comment=”22664″][quote comment=”22641″]shoot me for loving money and wanting nothing but the best out of life!
    [/quote]

    What does money have to do with getting the best out of life?

    Spending time with my wife and daughter or friends or family IS the best out of life. Not what money can buy me.[/quote]

    wgenese, it’s not even worth arguing with someone who makes a comment like that…. It’s obvious that they are so concerned with money that they are consumed by it…

    Not to mention the comment about not needing any more friends – that’s also a great attitude! cheers to that… If everyone were as wonderful as potatochip, the world would be miserable…

  2. emarche says:

    [quote comment=”22670″][quote comment=”22664″] i respect you though and probably envy simple people like you from time to time.[/quote]

    😯

  3. emarche says:

    [quote comment=”22670″][quote comment=”22664″][quote comment=”22641″]shoot me for loving money and wanting nothing but the best out of life!
    [/quote]

    What does money have to do with getting the best out of life?

    Spending time with my wife and daughter or friends or family IS the best out of life. Not what money can buy me.[/quote]

    that is your opinion, unfortunatley I don’t have my immediate family around that often to enjoy those pleasures in life. i respect you though and probably envy simple people like you from time to time. i stay busy with my ‘things’ i guess you can say.[/quote]

    Further evidence that money can’t buy class.

  4. potatochip says:

    your statement bears no weight.

  5. emarche says:

    Far more than your platitude, dummy.

    “I respect you…and probably envy simple people like you”

    Way to condescend – classy!

    I realize that you’re (see how I spelled that?) too shallow to appreciate that Genese has got something wonderful and that to you, money is everything. Which tells me…you got kicked to the curb by someone at some point and you’re desperately trying to overcompensate in a lame attempt to hide your hurt. Or shame. Sad.

  6. potatochip says:

    no, your quite off actually. just because i do not conform to society and ‘get married, have a kid, and live in the burbs’ does not mean i’ve been kicked to the curb as you would call it.

    i find that type of life boring and dull, i’m too young and have too much going on to have children and i’m I will be damned if I do it because society tells me I should. i hate people who think that their clock is ticking. i just enjoy life day to day. sorry i’m not like you. this place would be very boring if everyone played by the ‘rules of society’. f that!

    have a good weekend. later….

  7. emarche says:

    Have a great trip!

  8. potatochip says:

    thank-you, i plan on it.

  9. Dr. Midnight says:

    After watching the city council meeting on TV I have to say to the Pedicab company owners, you’re not helping yourselves at all.
    You brought in that “professional PediCab driver” who spoke the English language but clearly has little command over it, you had a lawyer who had his face buried in his notes making his statement instead of addressing the council, and you managed to piss off the council by parking your pedicabs right outside city hall.
    I’m sure you are familiar with the combative personalities of some council members, so how could you NOT think they would consider that action a slap in the face?

    I would wait till after the May 8th elections and try again, but, wow, get a better supporting cast.

  10. justaview says:

    you’d be better off with a paddle boat anyway!

    • matt_72 says:

      I wish we had a boat ramp in Hoboken, and one over in NYC. Then we could all buy amphibious cars and skip the tunnel altogether! Lets get the boat ramps, screw the paddleboats! lol

      In response to justaview who said:

      you’d be better off with a paddle boat anyway!

  11. MF says:

    although it probably would have been a good idea given how limited the options of getting around are – regular cabs being appallingly overpriced at $5 a mile – the prices of the pedicabs probably would have been even more ridiculous, gauging from what they are in NY.

  12. plaintruthiness says:

    Some of the double-wide strollers are wider than pedi-cabs…should they be banned too?

  13. jc5201 says:

    If you want wholesome Hoboken corruption, find out which of those on council accepted contributions from taxi medallion owners. I heard about this last week. Interesting that this was written into city code with out public knowledge.

    • estevens says:

      Well, for starters, Cammarano received $2500 in May from a Saturnina Mojica, owner of Indian Way Taxi.

      Investments.

      In response to jc5201 who said:

      If you want wholesome Hoboken corruption, find out which of those on council accepted contributions from taxi medallion owners. I heard about this last week. Interesting that this was written into city code with out public knowledge.

  14. UrbanRose says:

    This is just a stupid idea.

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