Violent crime increase in Hoboken!

3/28/2011:

Police cutbacks affecting Hoboken Quality of Life

In the last two weeks alone in Hoboken:

There could be a considerable amount more – and this doesn’t even touch on the numerous burglaries, assaults and other nefarious incidents that happen on a daily basis.

Despite pleas and warnings; Zimmer slowly dismantles P.D.

For the past several years, certain groups in Hoboken purposely undermined the public perception of the Hoboken Police Department. Citing inaccurate departmental audits and repeatedly tossing buzz-words like “Top Heavy” around so much, that they ended up successfully down-sizing the police presence in Hoboken.

When in fact now – with Hoboken’s population listed at 50,000 (probably closer 55,000 – 60,000) – The city’s Police force is as low as it’s been since the early 1990’s (the previous spike in violent crime) – only around 130 officers.

From what I understand, the HPD is having a tough time maintaining minimum staffing levels on a weekly basis. Additionally – beyond various programs & bureaus being cut altogether – police response times seem to be increasing. At certain points throughout the day – I’ve noticed a backlog of calls. While the high-priority calls are usually taken first, other non-emergency calls still requiring police intervention are taking much much longer, sometimes even hours – negatively affecting quality of life in the Mile Square.

Media Blackout: City administration trying to hide ugly truth

The Zimmer Administration recently invoked a “media blackout” – in other words, no longer sharing the crime reports with credentialed media outlets like Hoboken411. At the very least, there is a tremendous amount of filtering that is taking place downtown. Additionally, city employees were threatened with disciplinary action (including loss of job) if they speak to members of the free press.

It’s likely their belief that by hiding the real crime rate in Hoboken (keeping everyone in the dark), that the city will continue being a popular destination, property values will remain stable – and their master plan to reduce the police force had no negative impacts.

As you can see – with the almost immediate up-tick in violent crimes, as well as the most out of control Hoboken St. Patrick’s Parade ever (including rapes), this plan isn’t going so smoothly.

Demand answers; expect action – or vote them out

Here are some basic questions you can ask yourself, your elected council person or the Mayor herself.

  • Were the layoffs & demotions really necessary?
  • The single audit the city chose to use was based on much lower population estimates. Will they re-conduct the audit now? Or even read the audit that the Police Union obtained?
  • How do they feel now, despite the multiple warnings – that the plan isn’t working out? What are they going to do about it? Wait till people die?
  • What do they care more about? Public Safety – or votes for the next election?
  • Would you rather they hide the facts about crime? Or do you expect openness and transparency from these public officials – who essentially work for YOU.

“Playing Politics” is not an iPhone App – this is real life, and I believe we’re reaching a serious tipping point. Something needs to be done, and quickly. The collective indifference exhibited at City Hall is turning into a very embarrassing (and dangerous) situation for our city as a whole.

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20 Comments on "Violent crime increase in Hoboken!"

homeworld
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Correlation does not imply causation.

sarahp
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sarahp

I blame Buddy…

animal_lover
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animal_lover

extreme we must live in alternative universes. why do you think we have laws and ordiances- to keep civility in check? Who enforces these laws? Putting on a criminal hat for a moment wouldn’t a choose my crime scene to be the one where I would be least likely to be caught?

xtreme
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The laws on the book is a moot point because it’s clear that the criminals have no regard for them. You’re implying that by a criminal choosing a location where he/she has the least likely chance of being caught is also a weak argument because in that case the number of police officers on the force would make marginal difference. The suspect would most likely choose a location where he knows a cops is least likely to be. If I’m a criminal hell bent on committing offense I would care less about how many cops were on the force or not. The crime will still get committed. Cops generally patrol the locations with high crime rates. 3rd and Park/Willow where two of the robberies took place is not generally considered a high crime area in Hoboken.

Where the number of cops matter is what crimes the police choose to investigate. Of all that get reported, the police can only focus on the few with the highest chance of being solved and/or the highest severity given they have limited man-power.[quote comment=”205073″]extreme we must live in alternative universes. why do you think we have laws and ordiances- to keep civility in check? Who enforces these laws? Putting on a criminal hat for a moment wouldn’t a choose my crime scene to be the one where I would be least likely to be caught?[/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover
I would beg to differ as I see the drugs deals occurring in the neighborhoods that are unpatrolled. They pick the first closest corner away from the patrolled areas. Hello “in that case the number of police officers on the force would make marginal difference” that’s the whole rational that they avoid the police. That’s like saying a politician will do the deal no matter if he believes he’s in a sting. You’d have to be mentally ill or a masochist.[quote comment=”205082″]The laws on the book is a moot point because it’s clear that the criminals have no regard for them. You’re implying that by a criminal choosing a location where he/she has the least likely chance of being caught is also a weak argument because in that case the number of police officers on the force would make marginal difference. The suspect would most likely choose a location where he knows a cops is least likely to be. If I’m a criminal hell bent on committing offense I would care less about how many cops were on the force or not. The crime will still get committed. Cops generally patrol the locations with high crime rates. 3rd and Park/Willow where two of the robberies took place is not generally considered a high crime area in Hoboken.Where the number of cops matter is what crimes the police choose to investigate. Of all that get reported, the police can only focus on the few with the highest chance of being solved… Read more »
xtreme
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I’m not sure then that I understand the point you’re trying to make. If a drug deal happens on a corner away from the eyes of the police then how is the number of officers on the force going to prevent that deal from happening. You could argue that putting a cop of every corner is the answer but then that’s just not fiscally reasonable. My point above is that the # of police officers patrolling will have more of an effect on the total number of crimes solved than the total number of crimes committed. Here’s a quote from a 2010 article about police force size vs. crime rates to back up my claim: “…there is no clear relationship between the number of officers on the street and levels of reported crime. The number of officers on New York City streets has hovered around 35,000 since 2002 (headcount reductions occurred largely between 2000 and 2002). With 35,000 officers, the NYPD has about 43 police officers for every 10,000 residents. Two other large US cities have more officers per capita, Chicago and Philadelphia, and both have higher crime rates than New York City. [Chart here] Source: FBI Crime in the United States On the other hand, San Diego has a lower crime rate than New York City, despite the fact that there are about one-third fewer police officers per capita patrolling San Diego’s streets than in New York”[quote comment=”205109”]I would beg to differ as I see the drugs deals occurring… Read more »
wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

xtreme./..Layoffs were recinded /..Just demotions and retirements . .im told to my knowledge NO LAYOFFS….The force is one captain short due to Romano’s retirement. Will the mayor form the DAWN PATROL TO CANVAS AND PATROL THE 4TH WARD ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE WHICH IS IN THE PROJECT HOUSING AREA,or allow Chief Falco to permote another captain? At least two lts on the waiting list..This autta be interesting.. 😉 [quote comment=”205082″]The laws on the book is a moot point because it’s clear that the criminals have no regard for them. You’re implying that by a criminal choosing a location where he/she has the least likely chance of being caught is also a weak argument because in that case the number of police officers on the force would make marginal difference. The suspect would most likely choose a location where he knows a cops is least likely to be. If I’m a criminal hell bent on committing offense I would care less about how many cops were on the force or not. The crime will still get committed. Cops generally patrol the locations with high crime rates. 3rd and Park/Willow where two of the robberies took place is not generally considered a high crime area in Hoboken.Where the number of cops matter is what crimes the police choose to investigate. Of all that get reported, the police can only focus on the few with the highest chance of being solved and/or the highest severity given they have limited man-power.[/quote]

xtreme
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Thanks – I saw you did mention that earlier and I seem to recall reading about it in the news. So if that is the case, the total man-power on HPD hasn’t changed drastically in the past year. It would seem then that any increase in crime cannot really be tied to a man-power shift that was the result of action/in-action by the city.

That then begs the question if there is a true rise in crime, what’s the cause?? If we can figure that out then maybe it can be addressed by HPD or the town.[quote comment=”205089″]xtreme./..Layoffs were recinded /..Just demotions and retirements . .im told to my knowledge NO LAYOFFS….The force is one captain short due to Romano’s retirement. Will the mayor form the DAWN PATROL TO CANVAS AND PATROL THE 4TH WARD ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE WHICH IS IN THE PROJECT HOUSING AREA,or allow Chief Falco to permote another captain? At least two lts on the waiting list..This autta be interesting.. [/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

Extreme..not beiing sarcastic please note the East LA burglars break into homes in Beveley Hills./in spite of securty tv scanners etc.The poor will always go after the well to do people.. It’s not a one man power shift if your aluding to one less tour commander to supervise his people.Demotions / Pray the end justifys the means.
The Mayor is not an expert in the field of law enforcement..If you think about how a computer decides a football game./.nonsense..The game has to be played on the field…Rapunzel better leave the logistics of public safety to those authorized to protect lives and property.Remember a leader governs ,but does not rule.. 🙄 [quote comment=”205101″]Thanks – I saw you did mention that earlier and I seem to recall reading about it in the news. So if that is the case, the total man-power on HPD hasn’t changed drastically in the past year. It would seem then that any increase in crime cannot really be tied to a man-power shift that was the result of action/in-action by the city. That then begs the question if there is a true rise in crime, what’s the cause?? If we can figure that out then maybe it can be addressed by HPD or the town.[/quote]

xtreme
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Its a tough sell to try and correlate a spike in crime with police lay-offs yet politicos try it constantly. The main argument used in this case is that less police mean longer response times to emergencies (same argument is used if FD’s & EMS). This is a topic of hot debate and will be for a long time.

Based on the accounts of the events above that I read in this week’s Hoboken Reporter two factors played into these: 1) that the victims did not notify the police until after the robberies had occured and the suspects were long gone & 2) they happened late at night when less police are on partol normally. In all cases at least one of the two factors had a notable impact on outcome of the incident.

I don’t think it’s fair in the first point (when police are not notified) to use the lay-off argument because the police would have to actually witness the crime in progress to make a difference which, chances are slim to none. The second factor (night time) is easier to sell they layoff bit but still not open and shut.

Let’s just hope that in all cases the sick SOB’s who committed the crimes are caught. That is a true testament to the good work of the LEO’s of this town.

notnow
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notnow

Let me get this straight. We have 17 less police officers, and in the last 6 weeks we have have had: a rape, a sexual assault, a bank robbery, a jewelry heist, a grocery store hold up, a police chase in broad daylight where the suspect got away, and multiple armed robberies, and we still have people questioning if we need more cops????

If the above posters rational is correct, than lets get rid of another 50 officers, and see how well you do getting around town, especially when it’s late and you had a few. Hoboken has gotten through it’s intolerable crime days. We know the formula to get back to those days, I just thought we would be never dumb enough to do it.

Stupid is what stupid does. Try playing a soccer game with 3 less offensive players than your opponent and watch how many goals the opposing team scores on you. I guess you would just blame the Goal keeper. I mean after all, you had just as many defenders as the other side..

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1
not now..I believe there were 6 or 7 demotions which may have amounted to a few hundred thousand..$$$$$$..Was told the others retired..Capt Romano retired today thats another 140k ..He was the tour supervisor on midnights if im wrong correct me.Does this leave the night shift without a captain or will a LT be permoted?? We could always get a retired coast guard captain for half the price..Go girl you have it under controll. 😀 [quote comment=”205013″]Let me get this straight. We have 17 less police officers, and in the last 6 weeks we have have had: a rape, a sexual assault, a bank robbery, a jewelry heist, a grocery store hold up, a police chase in broad daylight where the suspect got away, and multiple armed robberies, and we still have people questioning if we need more cops????If the above posters rational is correct, than lets get rid of another 50 officers, and see how well you do getting around town, especially when it’s late and you had a few. Hoboken has gotten through it’s intolerable crime days. We know the formula to get back to those days, I just thought we would be never dumb enough to do it. Stupid is what stupid does. Try playing a soccer game with 3 less offensive players than your opponent and watch how many goals the opposing team scores on you. I guess you would just blame the Goal keeper. I mean after all, you had just as many defenders as the… Read more »
HomeTeam
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HomeTeam

Hmmmm, soccer analogies might actually get through to this administration [quote comment=”205013″]Let me get this straight. We have 17 less police officers, and in the last 6 weeks we have have had: a rape, a sexual assault, a bank robbery, a jewelry heist, a grocery store hold up, a police chase in broad daylight where the suspect got away, and multiple armed robberies, and we still have people questioning if we need more cops????If the above posters rational is correct, than lets get rid of another 50 officers, and see how well you do getting around town, especially when it’s late and you had a few. Hoboken has gotten through it’s intolerable crime days. We know the formula to get back to those days, I just thought we would be never dumb enough to do it. Stupid is what stupid does. Try playing a soccer game with 3 less offensive players than your opponent and watch how many goals the opposing team scores on you. I guess you would just blame the Goal keeper. I mean after all, you had just as many defenders as the other side..[/quote]

whineanddineinhob
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whineanddineinhob

…….so will the upcoming elections.[quote comment=”205017″]Hmmmm, soccer analogies might actually get through to this administration

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