Some people should NOT be dog owners!

3/16/2011:

Sad dog abandoned for hours!

Hoboken411 reader Brian Wagner is back with a (disgusting) story about a poor dog – and some completely inept dog owners. Read on…

We need to teach pet owners a serious lesson!

“From one pet dad to another pet dad… the following is based on true events from between 1pm-7:30pm on Saturday, March 12th.

Two points of view after a strange day in Hoboken for this unknown dog I rescued with another caring pet parent.

Are the pictures above depicting:

  1. Potential dog theft: Why would any dog parent leave their pet unattended like this (outside the CVS @ corner of Washington & Newark) for 2+ hours; careless I suppose.
  2. Abandonment: What terrible uncaring person would leave their pet like this for over 2 hours unattended; careless & heartless I suppose.

On my way back to Hoboken that night, I checked back with Hoboken police to see if the dog was picked up by either their owner or Liberty Humane. I learned he was picked up by the owners. Had he not been, I was ready to drop off a can of dog food to ensure he was being taken care of.

The final outcome was the reuniting of this cute dog and his uncaring, unloving, callous owner at the Hoboken police station. I hope we scared the owner straight and taught them a lesson. A dog is not property but rather a part of many loving families. I truly feel bad for this dog; hope it has a better long term ending. Based on a true story in Hoboken.”

411 note: I thought about this for a bit – and tried very hard to give the dog owner the benefit of the doubt (say something bad happened?) However, even in the worst case scenario – I would always treat Hoboken411 Mascot Oscar as if he was family – because he is. Whether it is a fire, other emergency, etc., that dog would be by my side and go where I go.

33 Responses

  1. Mrs. L says:

    Jesus! That looks like such a sweet dog. Who would ever abandon it?

  2. sasha says:

    A beautiul dog: shame on the owner for leaving it for that period of time! Your pet
    is part of the family: they’re lucky it wasn’t taken (or would they even care????)

  3. mooshu says:

    Those bubble quotes almost made me cry. The front of that CVS is sure a scary place for a dog to be abandoned. Poor, poor pooch…

  4. trueblue11 says:

    unfortunately, in the State of New Jersey, a dog IS property. Until we have animal companion laws that actually have teeth, this kind of sh!t will go on and on and on and on.
    Hoboken should have a law that Dogs cannot be tethered outside in public (or private)for more that a certain amount of time, and it should be weather dependent. This person should ,AT LEAST, have been given a hefty fine. People really do suck.

    • briank says:

      The city of Hoboken views pets as property. If you read the signs in city parks about dogs on grass, it states max fines of $2000 and possible seizure of the dog. I was ticketed a couple years ago by the mean creepy Dept of Health guy that the city puts in Chirch Square Park to hassle dog owners. Let me tell you- the day the city comes to seize my dog will look like Waco or Ruby Ridge a few years back- they arent getting him from me as long as i am alive
      (I freely admitthat I had let dog go into the middle of some bushes and pee. In my eyes, and I assume many others, this is preferable to dogs peeing in the middle of a sidewalk which people then have to walk through. If you see a frumpy guy with a limp and salt and pepper stubble beard, stay away. I carry 3 poop bags at all times, buy biodegradable poop bags online, pick up school kids trash in the park, etc but I was dragged into court to pay a stupid fine. [quote comment=”204542″]unfortunately, in the State of New Jersey, a dog IS property. Until we have animal companion laws that actually have teeth, this kind of sh!t will go on and on and on and on.
      Hoboken should have a law that Dogs cannot be tethered outside in public (or private)for more that a certain amount of time, and it should be weather dependent. This person should ,AT LEAST, have been given a hefty fine. People really do suck.[/quote]

      • Stabone130 says:

        Well, you broke the law. You have to keep your dog on a leash. I’m at Church Square Park every day with my pooch and its pretty common knowledge among pet owners not to let your dog off the leash bc that guy is lurking in the bushes, ready to pass out fines…[quote comment=”204544″]The city of Hoboken views pets as property. If you read the signs in city parks about dogs on grass, it states max fines of $2000 and possible seizure of the dog. I was ticketed a couple years ago by the mean creepy Dept of Health guy that the city puts in Chirch Square Park to hassle dog owners. Let me tell you- the day the city comes to seize my dog will look like Waco or Ruby Ridge a few years back- they arent getting him from me as long as i am alive
        (I freely admitthat I had let dog go into the middle of some bushes and pee. In my eyes, and I assume many others, this is preferable to dogs peeing in the middle of a sidewalk which people then have to walk through. If you see a frumpy guy with a limp and salt and pepper stubble beard, stay away. I carry 3 poop bags at all times, buy biodegradable poop bags online, pick up school kids trash in the park, etc but I was dragged into court to pay a stupid fine.

        [/quote]

      • briank says:

        My dog was not off leash. I never take him off leash. My point is that the city is targeting a responsible dog owner like me when there are people letting their dogs poop all over the place an not pick it up. The fine for not picking up yur dog poop is $25. I should have gone down to City Hall and let my dog poop on tue steps of City Hall. I would have paid $25. Instead I pulled him into some bushes , on leash, where he could pee without people walking in it and was fined $300. [quote comment=”204547″]Well, you broke the law. You have to keep your dog on a leash. I’m at Church Square Park every day with my pooch and its pretty common knowledge among pet owners not to let your dog off the leash bc that guy is lurking in the bushes, ready to pass out fines…

        [/quote]

      • bornandrazedinhobo says:

        briank I KNOW exactly who you are talking about….the guy is a complete scumbag and sits around in the park all day basically with a no show gig. He lives right next to the park as well and spends half the day at home when he is not outside harassing people. He primarily targets women and has harassed many including even going as far as physically grabbing them and restraining them which he cannot do because they walked through the park with their dogs and his actions can be considered a simple assault.

        He is one of the politically appointed hires under Roberts. One or two of the women he even followed home he had brought them to tears while yelling and threatening them. In fact he almost got his block knocked off by one girls husband whom heard her screaming for help and came out to find the guy holding his wife in a bear hug. I myself had a run-in with him almost 2 years ago when I walked through the park with my dog on the way home and he started to limp after me. I ignored the guy but he followed me home trying to get my attention. I knew he was looking for trouble and believe me I’m the type of guy whom would give him what he wanted but chose this day to ignore him.

        When I stopped to speak with a neighbor 3 blocks away from the park the gimp finally approached me and started pointing at me yelling to which I replied that unless he gets the fvck out of my face asap and puts his finger down he would find it just as useless as his foot because both would be stuck up his ass. It shocked my neighbor to see me so up front being she only ever saw my pleasant side. Never had a problem since with gimpy! And I agree with you, the day someone tries to take or harm my dog will be a bloodbath never before seen. [quote comment=”204544″]The city of Hoboken views pets as property. If you read the signs in city parks about dogs on grass, it states max fines of $2000 and possible seizure of the dog. I was ticketed a couple years ago by the mean creepy Dept of Health guy that the city puts in Chirch Square Park to hassle dog owners. Let me tell you- the day the city comes to seize my dog will look like Waco or Ruby Ridge a few years back- they arent getting him from me as long as i am alive
        (I freely admitthat I had let dog go into the middle of some bushes and pee. In my eyes, and I assume many others, this is preferable to dogs peeing in the middle of a sidewalk which people then have to walk through. If you see a frumpy guy with a limp and salt and pepper stubble beard, stay away. I carry 3 poop bags at all times, buy biodegradable poop bags online, pick up school kids trash in the park, etc but I was dragged into court to pay a stupid fine.

        [/quote]

      • briank says:

        He definitely watches to see where you live. I told my wife to never stop for him because other women in the park said the same as you- that he verbally and physically intimidated them. The day I got a citation he was waiting at my front door with an HPD cop because I live on the park and he obviously watched or followed me. Now that it is getting warm again he will start wasting our tax dollars hanging out on the library steps with Gary the library “security officer” (older white guy, light grey hair, glasses, spends the majority of
        His day smoking cigarettes and throwing them in the sidewalk or street even though there is a cigarette butt container right there). Ahhhh city employees! Keep up the good work. (sorry- most are decent but these two would never have jobs in the private sector). [quote comment=”204567″]briank I KNOW exactly who you are talking about….the guy is a complete scumbag and sits around in the park all day basically with a no show gig. He lives right next to the park as well and spends half the day at home when he is not outside harassing people. He primarily targets women and has harassed many including even going as far as physically grabbing them and restraining them which he cannot do because they walked through the park with their dogs and his actions can be considered a simple assault. He is one of the politically appointed hires under Roberts. One or two of the women he even followed home he had brought them to tears while yelling and threatening them. In fact he almost got his block knocked off by one girls husband whom heard her screaming for help and came out to find the guy holding his wife in a bear hug. I myself had a run-in with him almost 2 years ago when I walked through the park with my dog on the way home and he started to limp after me. I ignored the guy but he followed me home trying to get my attention. I knew he was looking for trouble and believe me I’m the type of guy whom would give him what he wanted but chose this day to ignore him. When I stopped to speak with a neighbor 3 blocks away from the park the gimp finally approached me and started pointing at me yelling to which I replied that unless he gets the fvck out of my face asap and puts his finger down he would find it just as useless as his foot because both would be stuck up his ass. It shocked my neighbor to see me so up front being she only ever saw my pleasant side. Never had a problem since with gimpy! And I agree with you, the day someone tries to take or harm my dog will be a bloodbath never before seen.

        [/quote]

  5. beermeagain says:

    What exactly happened here? The story isn’t told. There’s just three pictures with made up air quotes and a vague interpretation.

  6. escaped68 says:

    I had a dog that was rescued not the usual way but by a 13 year old boy. He rode his bike everyday and saw this dog tied up in a yard and was treated awful. so he got pissed and rode by one day and grabbed the dog. Yes he stole it but this is a real good kid. He couldn’t keep it so t make a long story short my wife, anti any animal, took it home.We took it to the vet and had it cleaned up. We kept that dog for 12 years it was the great dog. Her breed was a cockermamie?? smart and gentle and nice…but she hated boys with blond hair. We still laugh at her antics what a good mutt.

    Some body should grab that dog and find a home out of hoboken so the shitbag owner can’t find him.

  7. cyclewag says:

    @ Beermeagain and others—
    I spotted this dog with leash on the fire stand pipe around 2:44pm Saturday. A CVS employee said she first saw the dog on her 1pm break. We both called Hoboken Police to be told they could not get an officer to CVS for an hour. So while talking with another pet owner family we agreed on a plan of action. He and his wife would walk the dog to the Hoboken Police station, the girl from CVS would hang up a sign and I’d post on Hoboken411.com and the Hudson Reporter sites. That night I returned to Hoboken around 7:30pm and phoned the police dept to inquiry about the dog and ready prepared to drop off a can of food to feed the dog in case he was still there. I was glad to hear the owners came back to pick him up but he desk officer could not tell me if the owner was fined or repremanded or not. Just hope the pooch is being well cared for and that we scared this owner “straight.”

  8. beermeagain says:

    Thanks for the clarification. I regularly leave my dog tied up outside stores that understandably do not allow them indoors. Sometimes that has included a half hour of lunch, but then I’ll go out and check on her. There have definitely been some ugly looks from people. Just last week an old lady made some sort of comment when I unhooked the dog after a 2-3 minute stop in a store. I can’t imagine what would necessitate an hour plus of keeping a dog tied up in public (securely or not). Sounds like you did the right thing.

    • cyclewag says:

      I am not judging your motives or how you treat your dog. We have two small (10lb) dogs (they are our family, more then just companion animals) and we have a very simply policy, if a store owner/manager will not let us enter with our pets (either on leash or carried as some prefer) we just go elsewhere. Very simply– we don’t want to put our dogs in destress nor would we endanger them to potential theft. Ask yourself, would you leave your 4 year old child tied to a parking meter? I should hope not.[quote comment=”204555″]Thanks for the clarification. I regularly leave my dog tied up outside stores that understandably do not allow them indoors. Sometimes that has included a half hour of lunch, but then I’ll go out and check on her. There have definitely been some ugly looks from people. Just last week an old lady made some sort of comment when I unhooked the dog after a 2-3 minute stop in a store. I can’t imagine what would necessitate an hour plus of keeping a dog tied up in public (securely or not). Sounds like you did the right thing.[/quote]

      • mooshu says:

        Where do you buy your groceries?[quote comment=”204564″]I am not judging your motives or how you treat your dog. We have two small (10lb) dogs (they are our family, more then just companion animals) and we have a very simply policy, if a store owner/manager will not let us enter with our pets (either on leash or carried as some prefer) we just go elsewhere. Very simply– we don’t want to put our dogs in destress nor would we endanger them to potential theft. Ask yourself, would you leave your 4 year old child tied to a parking meter? I should hope not.

        [/quote]

      • cyclewag says:

        Hi Mooshu,
        There are times when I take the dogs, which are appropriate, such as for their walks including the parks and water front and I’ll include a stop at the bank, a dry cleaner or pet shop. Other times we wife and I go tandem so one of us can wait outside with the dogs. Then there are times that the girls stay home because its to places which I know are not appropriate to take them such as the grocery store, the post office which has a no dog policy (go figure that, haha). We only take them to a hand full of restaurants with us in the nice weather that are dog friendly and where the dogs would not be stressed out. [quote comment=”204566″]Where do you buy your groceries?[/quote]

      • beermeagain says:

        I’m not sure what tying a 4-year child outside has to do with tying a dog outside. It’s no comparison. Our dog is part of our family, but it’s not a helpless human child. It is perfectly fine tied up outside for a few minutes. Nobody is going to have luck taking her. Why would you ask such a question and pretend you aren’t judging my motives or how I treat my dog?[quote comment=”204564″]I am not judging your motives or how you treat your dog. We have two small (10lb) dogs (they are our family, more then just companion animals) and we have a very simply policy, if a store owner/manager will not let us enter with our pets (either on leash or carried as some prefer) we just go elsewhere. Very simply– we don’t want to put our dogs in destress nor would we endanger them to potential theft. Ask yourself, would you leave your 4 year old child tied to a parking meter? I should hope not.[/quote]

      • cyclewag says:

        @ beermeagain– it is an equal comparison. Yes a companion animal is part of the family and should be taken care of properly as such. To many dog parents, the dog is just like having a 2 legged child. I would never leave a child (don’t have one, so in my case a neice which I have a few or my neighbor’s daughter how we love dearly) locked/tied up outside a store ever. Neither would I lock/tie up my dogs outside a store ever. Hoboken is only 1 mile by 1 mile, walk home and leave your dog in the safety of your home. This way when you come home from your choirs your pet will be their to give you a great big loving wet welcome home. (secretly they’ll say to you “thank you for not leaving me tied up to the meter for 20 minutes in hte cold or wet where I could have been stolen.) That simply. [quote comment=”204590″]I’m not sure what tying a 4-year child outside has to do with tying a dog outside. It’s no comparison. Our dog is part of our family, but it’s not a helpless human child. It is perfectly fine tied up outside for a few minutes. Nobody is going to have luck taking her. Why would you ask such a question and pretend you aren’t judging my motives or how I treat my dog?[/quote]

      • Craig-D says:

        I have an even better policy than cyclewag’s. If I am going someplace that does not allow dogs, I leave my dog home. My dog is a purebreed from a reputable breeder and he cost me (an admittedly absurd) $2k. There is no way in hell I would leave him tied up somewhere without my supervision for even a minute.[quote comment=”204564″]I am not judging your motives or how you treat your dog. We have two small (10lb) dogs (they are our family, more then just companion animals) and we have a very simply policy, if a store owner/manager will not let us enter with our pets (either on leash or carried as some prefer) we just go elsewhere. Very simply– we don’t want to put our dogs in destress nor would we endanger them to potential theft. Ask yourself, would you leave your 4 year old child tied to a parking meter? I should hope not.[/quote]

  9. skooda says:

    scumbag. end of story.

  10. moephab says:

    Totally wrong. You don’t leave your dog tied up outside by itself for hours. Second I love Gimpy! He harasses me every time I see him, my dog is registered so He yells at me and I yell back! Granted it’s someone else living of our taxes for doing nonthing……

  11. animal_lover says:

    When I first had a dog I left him for a moment to pop into a shop to buy something. When I can back minutes later, a woman was standing by my dog. She told me she was watching him because he was too nice a dog to leave for even a moment – as she had previously seen someone come out of a store to find their dog missing.

    Poor little dog, puppie endangerment. Reminds me of the story of the guy who forgot his dog all day outside the dry cleaner when he went to work.

  12. kooky kat says:

    This poor little dog. I can’t imagine how/why they left that dog on the most awful corner (see Carlo’s bakery fatties) in Hoboken! He has his tags, I really would like to know what happened. I probably would have taken the dog home and tried calling the owners myself, just so I could get a decent explanation of what the hell happened to them. Then report them to the humane society if I wasn’t satisfied! I really wish you could find out what happened to them!!!

    I also have a real problem with people who tie their animals up outside (especially when it’s extremely hot) while they dine al fresco. Your dog isn’t happier because he is with you, he’s just f*ing hot and bored out of his mind. Leave them at home!!

    • cyclewag says:

      Hi Kooky kat,
      First thing we did was to check for tags. However, this owner had none other then a rabbis tag. This is why at first I thought it was an abandonment issue. At least a vet could have tracked the rabbis tag # for some info should we have had to go that route.[quote comment=”204583″]This poor little dog. I can’t imagine how/why they left that dog on the most awful corner (see Carlo’s bakery fatties) in Hoboken! He has his tags, I really would like to know what happened. I probably would have taken the dog home and tried calling the owners myself, just so I could get a decent explanation of what the hell happened to them. Then report them to the humane society if I wasn’t satisfied! I really wish you could find out what happened to them!!! I also have a real problem with people who tie their animals up outside (especially when it’s extremely hot) while they dine al fresco. Your dog isn’t happier because he is with you, he’s just f*ing hot and bored out of his mind. Leave them at home!![/quote]

  13. Stabone130 says:

    People who tie up their dogs outside while they run into a store “just for a few minutes” are ridiculous. So many thefts, kidnappings and dognappings happen when you’re not paying attention “just for a minute.”

    A year or so ago, a woman walked into a Manhattan supermarket “just for a minute,” came out and her bulldog was gone.

    Don’t tie your dogs up outside. You won’t forget them. They won’t get stolen. They won’t be posted on H411 and you won’t be judged.

    If you are going out for errands, don’t bring your dog. If you are out and then decide you need to run errands, drop your dog off first, then go back out.

    Stop being lazy.

    • cyclewag says:

      Kudos and thank you Stabone130, you said it perfectly.
      Be a responsible dog parent; it’s that simple.
      [quote comment=”204591″]People who tie up their dogs outside while they run into a store “just for a few minutes” are ridiculous. So many thefts, kidnappings and dognappings happen when you’re not paying attention “just for a minute.”A year or so ago, a woman walked into a Manhattan supermarket “just for a minute,” came out and her bulldog was gone.Don’t tie your dogs up outside. You won’t forget them. They won’t get stolen. They won’t be posted on H411 and you won’t be judged.If you are going out for errands, don’t bring your dog. If you are out and then decide you need to run errands, drop your dog off first, then go back out. Stop being lazy.[/quote]

  14. freewheelin says:

    A couple of years ago some moron tied his dog up outside of a dry cleaner on 7th Street and Garden and then literally forgot the dog was there and went to work. A few of us who saw the dog tied up fed him and called the police, who came pretty quickly and stayed there until the owner was located. The only reason the owner WAS located was because the owner of the dry cleaner had a ticket with the person’s name on it. After the person was called–and the cop was NOT pleasant with him and told him he would be fined–someone walked over to the animal hospital on Washington who came and took the dog to hold onto till the idiot came back from the city to get his dog. I always wondered not only how this person left the dry cleaner without noticing his dog standing there but how he went through at least two to three hours at work in the city without thing, oh shit I left my dog at the dry cleaner!

    On the other side of this discussion of dog responsibility, I really think the city needs to crack down harder on people who let their dogs pee and poop on sidewalks and other areas where people walk. You’re only a few feet away from the street–why can’t you take your dog off of the sidewalk and bring it to the curb? I’m sure there isn’t s single person reading this who hasn’t accidentally stepped on dog poop. Poop and pee are unsanitary no matter which animal it’s coming from–use your brain, dog owner, and don’t let your dog do his thing where someone might step in it!

  15. pawzclawz says:

    This puts me in mind of three instances.The first instance:My first apt.in town was across the street from Cornerstone Pets. I came home from the theatre on a Sat.afternoon. I saw a beautiful dog tied up outside the market on 9th&Wash. I assumed the owner was inside buying something and they would be quick. I came out of my house about an hour later. The dog was still there. It was a beautiful Cheasapeake Bay Retriever. I was going to take him into my apt. for awhile and feed and give him water and decide how to proceed further. The dog was very tense at this point and snapped when I went to untie him. I didn’t want to be bitten so I unfortunately did not bring him into my apt. I decided that if the dog was still tied when I came home from drinks and dinner I would take the dog in. The dog was gone when I returned home. I assumed the jackass of an owner came for him. This was the day before the spring art and music fair. I left for the fair the following day. I see a lost dog flyer. It was the dog that was tied up. I called the number. I told the guy I saw the dog tied up outside the market. The owner said to me. I’m only going to tell you this because you called me. He had the dog back. The dog was found running loose in the west end of town. The dog’s owner said to me he forgot the dog when he was leaving the market. I was so pissed off. I told him I hope your wife or girlfriend goes somewhere with you and forgets about you.

  16. pawzclawz says:

    I didn’t want to put all instances in one post and have it be insanely long and boring. I’ll break them into three. 2.My late boyfriend found a dog abandoned in the dogrun in the 5th st.park. He thought maybe I could adopt him. I would love to have a dog. It is not condusive to my lifestyle until I no longer work. I saw the dog. He was a real cutie. He was brought to the police station by a local dogwalker. This has a happy ending. A Hoboken cop ended up adopting him.

  17. pawzclawz says:

    The last one 3.Twice in January I was walking home from work. I saw a little dog tied up on two separate occasions a week apart. The dog was tied up outside The Wilton House while the owners and friends were inside drinking. Isn’t that special The first time I thought he was abandoned. Then the owner came out and said he would be taking the dog home shortly. I kept company until the owner came out. I saw him again a few days later. I knew the story at this point. A woman came out and said he’s not abandoned he’s our’s we’re inside. I know it’s cold. He has his sweater on. We’ll be done shortly. I kept company until they all came out to get the dog.

  18. briank says:

    I hope the owner of the beautiful English sheepdog tied up outside O’Nieal’s reads this column. The dog was out there again yesterday evening clearly distressed as it bark constantly while I was across the street in the park. For the sake of the dog and the neighbors please don’t take your dog to the bar. I am sure it
    Would be much more comfortable at home chilling on his dog bed.

    • HoneyDew says:

      It was tied up yesterday? When I walked by it was wandering in the fenced in area barking and scared. If I hadn’t had my dog I would have let it out and taken it home.

      If you need to drink that badly, leave fido home.[quote comment=”204602″]I hope the owner of the beautiful English sheepdog tied up outside O’Nieal’s reads this column. The dog was out there again yesterday evening clearly distressed as it bark constantly while I was across the street in the park. For the sake of the dog and the neighbors please don’t take your dog to the bar. I am sure it
      Would be much more comfortable at home chilling on his dog bed.[/quote]

  19. mooshu says:

    It’s really a shame that we can’t leave dogs tied to a fence for a minute to run into a shop for milk. I don’t judge people who do this– I judge the idiots who steal pets. There are perfectly honest people out there who leave their dogs for a quick minute and come right out to get them. I don’t see anything wrong with that and volunteer to watch others’ dogs while they run in and out a store.

    I do, however, see something very, very wrong about leaving any pet outside for longer than a minute. What the hell. I’ve never brought my dog along to brunch and left her outside for an hour or more. And I never will. If my pooch and I go out, it’s to spend quality time at the park, taking a long walk, playing ball and so on. It’s her time. Period.

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