We have flooding issues?

FYI, additional flooding pictures on comment pages 1, 2 and 5.

3/2/2007 2:08pm Update:

I’ve read that certain local politicians continue blaming “high-tide” and indicate that continued development would have NO impact on the current conditions, because “it’s a long term plan”. While that may have an ounce of merit, I believe our efforts should be put in WHOLEHEARTEDLY to combat this recurring problem, rather than wasting resources and time building more. They argue about the economic windfall that Hoboken would enjoy, but I can only take that with a grain of salt. I asked in an earlier comment somewhere on the site “would Hoboken go bankrupt if no development was done in the SW?” (i.e., solve the problems first), and haven’t seen any answer except “to do nothing would be fatal…”

Is that the case? If so, will someone PROVE this to us?

Below is a letter sent to 411 and all the major tri-state area news outlets from a Hoboken resident who wishes to remain anonymous.

AN OPEN LETTER:
Flooding in Hoboken I’ve lived in Hoboken for the past 3.5 years. In that time, I’ve seen many despicable acts that lead me to believe that City Hall is not doing a good job for their constituents. Instead of listing all the ills of Hoboken, I’d like instead to bring to light one particular issue: FLOODING

Every time it rains in Hoboken we have to worry about flooding. Our downtown area is more of a lake than a living area. My understanding of the problem is that our infrastructure is very old and very overwhelmed, and the gutters/sewers get backed up when it rains heavily. This problem is exacerbated by the constant construction and enormous apartment buildings our Mayor and City Council is so fond of giving zoning variances. As more and more people pack into this finite amount of space, and no/limited upgrades are done to our water/sewer system, we are facing increased flooding.

As of March 2, 2007, at 9:30a.m., most corners west of Bloomfield and south of 3rd are under water. The intersection of Newark and Garden Streets was a lake, and all intersections west of there were under at least one foot of water. Second and Clinton was under a few feet, and Seventh and Willow residents had water all the way up to their door jams.

Multiple vehicles are being destroyed each and every time there is measurable precipitation, and our Mayor and City Council do nothing!

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In a town where it can cost upwards of $400/square foot to buy a condo or building, it is a DISGRACE that this type of destruction of property occurs on a semi-regular basis. Most times after a flood, someone from City Hall will announce that high tide plus the “unusual” amount of rainfall contributed to the flooding, but this will not be a regular occurrence. By my count, this has occurred at least 5 times since July 21, 2006. That is most definitely regularly, and most definitely a problem that needs to be addressed.

What will it take for City Hall to start working for its constituents and fixing this problem? How much property needs to be destroyed before they care? Will someone have to die in the rushing waters of West Hoboken before anything is done? Is it possible our Mayor is so incompetent he is not aware of the legacy he is in danger of leaving Hoboken: Mayor Roberts, New Jersey’s very own Ray Nagin.

I would strongly recommend that anyone thinking of living in Hoboken seriously consider each and every possible alternative. Hoboken can be a great city in many ways, but this is just one example of many downsides to living here.

List of flood conditions since July 21, 2006: http://hoboken411.com/?s=FLOOD
Pictures of the flood can be found on http://hoboken411.com/?p=6095&cp=1#comments

It should also be noted that City Hall has banned it’s employees from using Hoboken411.com , and blocked the site on its computer systems

3/2/2007 7:26am:
Whoa! I didn’t know that! Maybe they should re-consider all this rush development until we solve the infrastructure issues?

As of 7:20 this morning, there are several instances of flooding around and more to come, including Newark and Park, which is at a complete standstill, a part of Clinton Street which is “under water” according to Hoboken PD, and also south on the Jersey City border by the railroad tracks a couple cars are already floating. But they say “that’s JC’s jurisdiction”.

Great day to take off, or at least go in 1/2 day.

I haven’t slept since Wednesday night, so I’m not sure how much flooding action I can photographically capture. If anyone is out and about can grab a few shots and send them in, please do so!

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107 Comments on "We have flooding issues?"


patssoxrevscelts
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patssoxrevscelts
6 years 11 months ago

Sorry to drag up such an old thread, but wondering if there is some kind of update available on the flooding in the Legal Beans area (newark/garden). I think there was one pump approved but I can’t find the thread with its location.

8thStGuy
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8thStGuy
7 years 10 months ago

[quote comment=”116987″]
Once you cross Monroe and get on the Jackson side of the 2nd/3rd/4th you do have real issues during storms.

When it floods bad it just means you can’t get to Jackson in that area(no big loss).[/quote]

What happens to the Jackson St. residents? I heard those people can’t/don’t like to swim.

personalt
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personalt
7 years 10 months ago

The streets on Madison/Monroe themselves are fine.

Once you cross Monroe and get on the Jackson side of the 2nd/3rd/4th you do have real issues during storms. When it floods bad it just means you can’t get to Jackson in that area(no big loss).

Other bad areas – Up by the supermarket is horrible. Down by skyclub is horrible. Over by Legal Beans is horrible.

The western side of town is lower no doubt about it. However the good thing about the western steets is that the flood plan is just high enough that you cant have a basement unit. Where it gets tricky is when you get near lower willow/garden etc the ground is just a little higher that you are just above the flood plan and you get to have garden/basements units.

oldhobo
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oldhobo
7 years 10 months ago

Curious- which areas are most prone to flooding in Hoboken? Monroe St? Madison? streets crossing between 2-5th?

westy
Member
9 years 6 months ago

Residents are responsible for trash on and infront of their property.

I would think the city workers who clean the streets take care of the surface garbage beyond the curb. I could not imagine a resident being responsible to lift a sewer grate and clean it out.

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