Hoboken Shanty Town

Should something be done about Hoboken Shanty Town?

Update: I’ve always wondered why the city of Hoboken had a relaxed view about the “homes on the hill” that many people in town refer to as the homeless shanty town.

Homeless shanty towns in Hoboken NJ

Located on the “cliff” on the western edge of north Hoboken, homeless people have set up various mini villages there for a long time.

As you can see by the ever-growing pile of garbage accumulating on hill, it’s quite “unappealing” to the eye. And judging by the type of garbage (those blue plastic shopping bags), it appears that most of that refuse came from a liquor store. Maybe I should add this location to the Hoboken BYOB places?

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What would you do about the shanty town?

You can look at this two ways. One, they’re homeless for God’s sake – they have no home! They’re sort of “out of the way” up there, and as long as they don’t get hit by a train or abduct some unknowing child, perhaps we should leave them alone. Maybe the least we could do is ask them to keep their house in order?

On the other hand – we do have the Hoboken Homeless Shelter which they could use (unless they were “banned”), and as you can see from the video – shanty towns like this can and will burst into flames as they get drunk and carelessly dispose of their cigarette butts, etc.

Does it really matter? Or would the city benefit if this area was cleaned up? Either way – as the spring blossoms, the trees will bloom and all of this will be out of sight soon enough.

Hoboken Shanty Town: Elaborate shacks rivaling some apartments

2/6/2007:

Hoboken411 reader Ryan thought this might be interesting to read. While riding the Light Rail, he mentioned seeing quite a few of these elaborate “shacks” that have been setup on the cliffs by local Hoboken homeless individuals.

Most Hoboken residents have seen these “hillside condos”, but has anyone actually seen what it’s like inside? If anyone would be interested in doing an “exposé” on what it’s like to live there, please feel free to use my great ideas! I’d consider crossing the tracks to see what it’s like, but would be nice if a group of volunteers came with me.

Regardless, it must be tough, especially in this cold weather. Some of the shacks actually had smoke coming out, as if they were building a fire. I know at one point in the last couple years, there was a pretty big fire in ‘dem hills.

Ryan adds: “Reminded me a little of the Ewok village from Star Wars. These are not your standard cardboard box temporary shelters, but it looks like they have been there for some time. Come to think of it these homes are probably better than my apartment!”

These photos were taken on the west side of Hoboken between 12th and 14th Streets.

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71 Comments on "Hoboken Shanty Town"


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animal_lover
3 years 8 months ago

Yes I have always imagined what realtors sales pitch would be. A commenter who wrote 411 suggested that there are million dollar homes near the tracks and below the water table. It’s exactly the type of environment that entrepreneurial squatters scout out and build a comfortable community.

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8 years 6 months ago

[quote comment=”13240″]I had a mentally ill relative who was in and out of the hospital. Same cycle–he would be hospitalized, put on meds, released, told to take his meds. Once out of the hospital, he would decide he didn’t need his meds so once again back to the hospital. His family did what they could but he was an adult. Eventually, he committed suicide.[/quote]
Ditto on all of that, except my family member attempted a couple of time but never commited suicide.

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ucpa
3 years 8 months ago

I know this post it pretty old but I just want to say something about this community in particular. Most of the people (and I say most, not all) who live on the cliff where we see the pics above, these individuals are not homeless. They live there cause they choose to live there, with all the difficulties of living without heating or hot water. Of course, this also involves the alcohol addiction, but not the metal illness. [quote comment=”13244″]Ditto on all of that, except my family member attempted a couple of time but never commited suicide.[/quote]

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animal_lover
3 years 8 months ago

Did you know alcoholism is a common for of self-medicating. You see alot of alcoholism in a family, it is a very good chance of mental illness, ex depression, anxiety.

I thought I knew a good amount on mental health but not until is hits close to you do you come to understand it more.

If you have not read WGENESE you should. He explains the trials of the mentally ill well.

Unfortunately in our society mental illness is not considered on par with any other bodily disease. One of the biggest problems in diseases that depression often accompanies is the problem depression causes in the ability to take drugs as prescribed.

What is really disgusting is the Fed/state programs that our taxes pay for – and are supposed to provide a benefit whether physically or mentally disabled – disqualify applicants with mental health problems because the professional training of the case worker is extremely limited in mental health.

[quote comment=”212710″]I know this post it pretty old but I just want to say something about this community in particular. Most of the people (and I say most, not all) who live on the cliff where we see the pics above, these individuals are not homeless. They live there cause they choose to live there, with all the difficulties of living without heating or hot water. Of course, this also involves the alcohol addiction, but not the metal illness.[/quote]

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SFH
8 years 6 months ago

Thanks, wgenese. And thanks for reiterating that many homeless people are mentally ill. When it was determined that many people in mental hospitals could be released and live on their own, governments did a 180 and released many people without providing proper outpatient support. IMO, the answer lies somewhere in between. Some mentally ill people do need longterm-even lifelong-hospitalization. I had a mentally ill relative who was in and out of the hospital. Same cycle–he would be hospitalized, put on meds, released, told to take his meds. Once out of the hospital, he would decide he didn’t need his meds so once again back to the hospital. His family did what they could but he was an adult. Eventually, he committed suicide. To this day I think that if he were just hospitalized, he would still be around. So-there has to be a better solution…

Member
8 years 6 months ago

beamrider, I just read through some of the posts again, as well as SFH’s and wgenese’s.

It seems as though I might have misunderstood some of your (beamrider) replies. What I thought to be attacks against me were a bit less than what I perceived. And so I was a bit snarky in my follow up. For that, I apologize. Perhaps I should control that kind of reaction better in the future.

Yeah, I took what wgenese said to heart – regarding the fact that you cannot persuade someone who is mentally ill to choose to get help, nor take their meds. Salient. Wgenese for sure pointed out something that needs to be done to get out into the streets and find these people, who are unaware of their condition, to get help. Some kind of outreach, that instead of providing a place for them to go to, actually go out and find them and offer help.

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8 years 6 months ago

By the way, well said SFH.