Pet Unfriendly Landlords in Hoboken

1/21/2011:

Is Hoboken really a pet friendly city?

Pet ownership in Hoboken can be quite the divisive subject. Some folks have issues with dog poop or dangerous Pit Bulls with irresponsible owners, while there are plenty of upstanding dog-lovers (like myself with the 411 Mascot Oscar), humane societies, and even dog-related events like Halloween Parades!

However, one new Hoboken resident is miffed by the lack of pet-friendly apartments to choose from in town.

Can anyone give her a logical explanation as to why?

Anti Pet Sentiment in Hoboken

“I’ve read your site since moving to Hoboken for everything Hoboken. I’m very curious to why Hoboken rentals/landlords are so anti-pets?

I mean if someone who doesn’t live here visits Hoboken, you would assume this is a pet friendly town. You have the animal hospital, numerous pet stores, parks etc…. but in reality it’s not.

I find it when one is looking for rentals here it has become a nightmare when one is looking for an apartment if you are a pet owner, especially towards dogs. I moved here from Manhattan and I find NYC to be more Pet friendly. I mean even some of the most luxurious buildings in the city are Pet friendly, while most of the rentals in Hoboken are not!

Many apartments here are way too expensive, but some of them are run down and old, and they have the nerve to discriminate against Pets?

I can understand if you don’t want certain breeds or sizes but all pets, that is ridiculous! Some landlords are even asking cat owners to de-claw their cats. Ha! De-clawing cats is illegal in Europe because they think it’s inhumane.

Anyway,at least in the city there might be weight or breed restrictions but at least they are not so anti-pets. Anyway, now I’m thinking of moving back to the city.”

Hoboken411 Mascot says: “Grrrrr!”

16 Responses

  1. Alpuj says:

    I rent out an apartment as pet friendly, so these thoughts are not my own, but I totally understand landlords that do not allow pets.

    First off its a lot easier and safer to make a blanket, no pets (or dogs) rule than deal with things on a case by case basis. You never know if you are going to allow a dog in that will end up scratching at the walls, urinating or staining hardwood floors or carpeting. Some of the smell, hair, stains either never come out or cost a lot of money to remove. Plus dogs can bark and howl all throughout the day disturbing neighboors.
    A lot of landlords in this town are private individuals and to fix/clean up after an apartment gets ravaged by a dog is tough work for someone who has a full time job besides being a landlord.
    Like I said before, I am a dog lover and have always allowed pets in my rentals, but I totally understand and defend any landlord that doesn’t want to deal with hassle of cleaning up after a tenant with a pet.

    • JohnCarani says:

      Invisible urine damage and noise bothering other tenant.[quote comment=”202360″]I rent out an apartment as pet friendly, so these thoughts are not my own, but I totally understand landlords that do not allow pets. First off its a lot easier and safer to make a blanket, no pets (or dogs) rule than deal with things on a case by case basis. You never know if you are going to allow a dog in that will end up scratching at the walls, urinating or staining hardwood floors or carpeting. Some of the smell, hair, stains either never come out or cost a lot of money to remove. Plus dogs can bark and howl all throughout the day disturbing neighboors.
      A lot of landlords in this town are private individuals and to fix/clean up after an apartment gets ravaged by a dog is tough work for someone who has a full time job besides being a landlord.
      Like I said before, I am a dog lover and have always allowed pets in my rentals, but I totally understand and defend any landlord that doesn’t want to deal with hassle of cleaning up after a tenant with a pet.[/quote]

  2. Shoookie says:

    Alpuj, had many of the salient points as to why landlords don’t allow pets, as a Realtor I do sympathize. Quite frankly the pet situation makes it difficult for me also, I may have agreat client and a great place, but then the landlord does not allow pets and it totally kills my deal.

    I do find Jersey City to be more pet friendly most of the time. I deal with the largest landlord in Jersey City a lot and even he does not allow pets in several of his buildings. I wish I could tell you things will change and landlords may become more flexible, but unfortunately as Hudson County becomes a ‘cheaper’ alternative to NYC, there is little chance of any significant change.

  3. homeworld says:

    I’ve never lived in a building in Hoboken that didn’t allow pets. I guess you’re just looking in the wrong places.

  4. lando35mm says:

    My building only allows cats. If only I could teach a cat to bark…

  5. iforgotmymantra says:

    When I’ve searched Hoboken listings for dog-friendly rentals, I found that a good proportion was pet-friendly. However, it was frustrating that most of the really well-kept places with older millwork, antique features, etc. almost always were off-limits for pets. I can understand why from the landlord’s perspective, though it’s too bad when the dog involved is a real angel.

  6. brought2uby says:

    I can’t help but notice that most of the reasons that Alpuj helpfully spells out for the anti-pet stance of some Hoboken landlords could also be applied to children (i.e. drawing on walls, juice spills or dirty diapers on carpeting, disturbing other tenants with loud crying, shouting or running in hallways) Just saying…

    • personalt says:

      As far the most of the things you can say about pets you can say about kids.. this is totally true. Kid can be much harder on an apartment.

      You can not discriminate against kids. My units are smaller so I never had anyone with kids apply. But you are kidding yourself if you think any landlord that has two applicants (all other things being equal) is going to choose the one with the kids or pets.

      [quote comment=”202382″]I can’t help but notice that most of the reasons that Alpuj helpfully spells out for the anti-pet stance of some Hoboken landlords could also be applied to children (i.e. drawing on walls, juice spills or dirty diapers on carpeting, disturbing other tenants with loud crying, shouting or running in hallways) Just saying…[/quote]

  7. personalt says:

    I am a landlord who himself has multiple pets. For the most part I dont allow pets. I know that 95% of the time if I did allow my tenants to have pets I wouldn’t have a problem. The issue is when you get that one pet that causes damages it can add up fast. If you end up losing rent because the unit needs to go vacant to fix the problems you can easily get to 8-10K real fast.

    We have some cats.. Taking cats as an example 99% of the time they are no problem. But if you get a sick cat that starts peeing on the foor you can have a lot of trouble real fast. All of my apartments have been redone in the last few years and have prefinished hardwood floors. An old school floor is put down and then sealed as one unit but a prefinished floor is individual boards. With a old school post finished floor you can clean up a spill fairly easily. But with the prefinished floors the pee runs down between the boards in a matter of seconds. There is no way to clean that up..

    Depending on where it happens, you could easily be replacing all the flooring. Lets say it was a 12’x12′ bedroom. Even inexpensive flooring ($5 material, $4 labor and you are talking $1300 to fix just that one room. If the pee a few times in that same spot and you are pulling up subfloors doubling that cost.

    I normally try and re-rent a unit once the tenants give notice. The goal is no down time. If you have a damaged unit you can really show it until the move out and you fix the problem. Most good tenants start looking 60 days out so it is very likely this unit will be vacant for 2-3 months.

    Real fast you are approaching 10K in losses.

  8. bwe790 says:

    I had a problem when I first moved here finding a place that allowed a big dog, I have a 75 pound Lab Mix, just not a fan of toy dogs. I did find a bunch on craigslist, however, many that I found were way out of my price range. I have a decent size 1 bedroom now, it’s not a work of art, but it allows dogs and keeps me outta the cold. I dread having to move and find another spot that allows big dogs. I think the bigger challenge is for those with dogs over 35 lbs.

  9. Craig-D says:

    Most of the larger corporate owned buildings allow pets at an added cost. It’s the individual units owned by mom and pop landlords that will tend to have a no-pet policy. There are thus tons of pet-friendly units in town. One can always take matters into their own hands by buying their home instead of renting. That way you don’t have someone telling you what you can and cannot do in your own home.

  10. nacholibre says:

    After living in my building for three years, and a big lab mix, I have decided that it should be false advertising if “pet friendly” means I have to pay an extra $50 a month in “pet rent”. If the $50 is to cover wear and tear then what is the point of my 1.5 months deposit. I think it is simply a revenue generating scam. My dog (1) does not cause any damage to my apt. or common areas, (2) is 100x quieter than my neighbors and the little booger-eaters, (3) is home less than most residents.

    Why stop with “pet rent”? Shouldn’t the couple next door pay more since they have two people living in the apt. compared to my one? What about a surcharge for kids? Or unwed couples (excess fornication)? My downstairs neighbor smoked in his bathroom, stinking mine up, and not to hate on smokers, but if anyone should pay a surcharge….

    If landlords do not want to permit any pets, I respect their decision. Just don’t p*ss on my leg and tell me it’s raining. I seriously plan on writing my councilperson to sponsor some feel good/don’t rip off the pet owners ordinance.

    • homeworld says:

      I agree that smokers cause a lot more problems than dog owners. [quote comment=”202418″]After living in my building for three years, and a big lab mix, I have decided that it should be false advertising if “pet friendly” means I have to pay an extra $50 a month in “pet rent”. If the $50 is to cover wear and tear then what is the point of my 1.5 months deposit. I think it is simply a revenue generating scam. My dog (1) does not cause any damage to my apt. or common areas, (2) is 100x quieter than my neighbors and the little booger-eaters, (3) is home less than most residents. Why stop with “pet rent”? Shouldn’t the couple next door pay more since they have two people living in the apt. compared to my one? What about a surcharge for kids? Or unwed couples (excess fornication)? My downstairs neighbor smoked in his bathroom, stinking mine up, and not to hate on smokers, but if anyone should pay a surcharge….If landlords do not want to permit any pets, I respect their decision. Just don’t p*ss on my leg and tell me it’s raining. I seriously plan on writing my councilperson to sponsor some feel good/don’t rip off the pet owners ordinance.[/quote]

      • nacholibre says:

        And that is just the quality of life argument. My dog is definitely not going to burn down a building and displace a dozen families.[quote comment=”202437″]I agree that smokers cause a lot more problems than dog owners.

        [/quote]

  11. flowerglow says:

    I think the only reason landlord don’t discriminate against people with kids it’s because of the law.Hoboken is actually not that cheaper than Manhattan,maybe other towns in Hudson county.I live in Hoboken and I’m not looking forward to look for another apartment because it’s a pain when you own dogs in Hoboken.My dog is only 5lbs but Hoboken landlord seems to discriminate against dogs period.I’m thinking of just moving to NYC since I can find an easier pet friendlier apartment for the over pricey rent I’m paying now in Hoboken.The only thing Hoboken have going is the convenience of being close to NYC. Well since Hoboken rental is not that much cheaper than NYC,why not just move to the real thing.
    What I find funny is some of the apartments that are saying no to dogs,due to possibly damages are a joke.Many of these apartments are not even renovated and some are way over price for these old looking apartments.

    To the person who said buying is the best thing.
    I know some people who brought their own places in Hoboken and they are miserable.
    They are stuck due to the market,otherwise they would have sell their place.
    Like the OP said Manhattan is way more pet friendlier.I know people who live in Luxurious,doorman building in Manhattan and guess what? they are pet friendly.
    You have to understand many people who live in the city(Hoboken can be consider city) are singles, guess what? many of us are pet owners. Hoboken to me is over hype and over price for those old run down apartments.

    As a pet owner I will not give my dog away because landlords in Hoboken are anti-pets.
    If one can afford to live in Hoboken I think Manhattan shouldn’t be a problem,since again Hoboken is not that cheaper really.

    There’s Williamsburg,Brooklyn which is only one stop from the L train,it’s trendy close to Manhattan and less fussy landlords.

    I think the point of being a business owner is knowing that there are risks involve.If you are a landlord,well guess what? there are risks,again this is why you ask a 1.5 month security deposit.If you are so worrying of what might happen,well maybe you shouldn’t be renting to others.I would think references can be another way to find out if you are renting to someone responsible.

    People and kids can cause damages to your property,not just dogs.I’m a responsible pet owner and a renter.Again Hoboken will just chase more people out of this town,when there are other options.
    This is not just hurting pet owners, but businesses that caters to dogs will suffer as well.

  12. mooshu says:

    I haven’t met anti-pet landlords because, in the past, we’ve specifically searched for apartments that were pet-friendly. We did that even when we didn’t have a pet yet! The apartment that we live in now, we’ve lived in for nearly five years and it allows small pets. This made it easy for us to welcome a pup home when we were ready.

    Can’t expect every apartment to be pet-friendly or kid-friendly. Some people are allergic to animals. And as far as our residence is concerned, no kids have lived here for maybe a hundred years! I think a balance needs to exist in Hoboken.

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