Hoboken has less parking than ever!

12/6/2010:

Have you noticed parking getting harder or easier in Hoboken?

Parking more scarce in the past 12 months

42 spots taken up by Hertz on Demand Cars.

City claims a similar number of “surrendered permits.” Question is – Did those cars really “free up parking?” Or how many folks gave up their cars just because of Hertz?

It’s possible all of those permits would have not been renewed regardless if the Hertz on Demand Cars were there or not. Some people give up their cars strictly for other reasons (end of lease, etc.) Many parking permits are allowed to expire each and every year – as countless new residents who come to town and commute to Manhattan do indeed relinquish their cars once they’ve settled into this walking / commuting city. To take advantage of a $100 coupon may have just been coincidental.

Additionally, those 42 spots reserved for Hertz cars, actually take up more – because when a resident uses the car to shop in Hoboken, they take up TWO spots – the one they parked at and the empty green spot they left behind.

And lastly, there are countless individuals who have street parking permits AND park in monthly garages (myself included.)

Other reasons we have less parking now

The corner bollards, while a smart thing to do (for safety) – have also eliminated many “parking spots” – whether they were legal or not. So regardless, more cars will now drive around (emitting pollutants) to search for open (legal) spots. Less resting spots for vehicles is just a byproduct of making the intersections safer.

Commercial vehicles. The city recently revised an ordinance that made it legal to park most commercial vehicles (vans, etc.) on the street overnight. Now with the loosened restrictions, countless commercial vehicles take up spots that previously resulted in ticket revenue and tows.

Parking improvements are spin

So the bottom line is that you should never be led to believe that “parking got easier” in Hoboken, because it’s quite the opposite.

Just stand on any street corner during the evening rush hour and count how many times you see the same cars driving around and around and around!

Just build what people need (more parking garages, more affordable) instead of trying to socially condition them (into surrendering their cars).

If “freeing up parking” and “saving the environment” was truly the goal of the city, why not make garage parking more affordable? Say $99/month or even free?

Final Thoughts:

  • Did you know 96% of the Hertz Customers in Hoboken did not previously have cars?
  • Traffic congestion may have become worse. If the city’s number of 33% usage is accurate – that means that while Hertz cars are in use, they clog Hoboken’s streets with over 300 more vehicular trips – when those without cars would have probably walked. 960 more drivers in town than before!
  • If the city is so hell-bent on pedestrians and biking – then why is it so important that the cars are just “steps away” from customers? Sounds a bit contradictory, no? Make ‘em walk! Use the shuttle bus! Something! Go Green?
  • And I’m still wondering why the Pedi-Cabs were nixed! Those were great ways to get around town! What buttons were pressed there? What envelopes under the table?
  • I’ll repeat this each time I express concerns (or need to un-spin bogus info) about Hertz Cars in Hoboken: I have no problem with hourly rental cars. It’s a perfectly convenient way for those who need a quick ride to do so without the typical paperwork headache of longer-term rentals. Those that choose to own or lease their own vehicle need not be punished.
  • An investigation into Park Ridge, NJ based Hertz Corporation should be done. See how anyone involved with City Hall is connected. The over-zealous approach they’re taking is very odd – and such enthusiasm usually involves money or special favors. Calling Arnold Diaz!

I’ll be back in a couple hours with the next 411 update. I have to help a friend find parking.

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26 Comments on "Hoboken has less parking than ever!"

homeworld
Member

$10 million is a very low ball cost estimate. Construction costs would be about $45 a square foot for this structure. At 1,200 spaces that’s about 400,000 square feet, so about $16 million for JUST construction costs.

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However, this garage was built to replace the surface spaces lost due to the construction of the new buildings, so there was no increased impact to traffic in the area so the developer won’t have had any of the costs typically required for mitigating traffic increases.

Once you add the price of the property and required traffic improvements, a garage this size elsewhere in Hoboken would cost a bare minimum of $20 million.

peedur
Member
peedur

I’m particularly concerned if Hertz is providing private customer information to select persons at city hall for political gain and marketing.

wiskeytango1
Member
wiskeytango1

peedur your on the money..More to this fiasco that meets the eye..Hoboken wouldn’t have this pkg problem had not for the overdevelopment in this town..Threres a reason for everything that happens..good question peedur.[quote comment=”200620″]I’m particularly concerned if Hertz is providing private customer information to select persons at city hall for political gain and marketing.[/quote]

dryfly
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dryfly

Why not limit street parking permits to people who drive to work everyday. Everyone else can park in one of the great municipal garages the city’s always talking about.

escaped68
Member

I disagree with about less parking there was a time where you had maxwell house,standard brands,lipton tea,2 ship yards, the piers,K&E, the list could go on forever with workers trying to park. And a lot of these were 24/7 operations. I think we both could agree that it was and is horrible to park anywhere in hoboken.

peedur
Member
peedur

Wow, I’m surprised that anyone treats owning a car as if it were illegal. Less cars? Why? We like the freedom of going wherever we want whenever we want.

Hoboken is home to more Kool Aid drinkers every year.

Alpuj
Member

Having a car is not illegal, but getting something for nothing is. The people of Hoboken have been getting parking spaces for basically no cost for years. They should either pay fair value or just deal with the parking problems and not complain about it. [quote comment=”200605″]Wow, I’m surprised that anyone treats owning a car as if it were illegal. Less cars? Why? We like the freedom of going wherever we want whenever we want.Hoboken is home to more Kool Aid drinkers every year.[/quote]

jdm
Member

Fair value? What is fair value for parking on a public street in your own town? People already pay taxes to support the city streets. Why should the city be making a profit by charging citizens to park on public streets? [quote comment=”200607″]Having a car is not illegal, but getting something for nothing is. The people of Hoboken have been getting parking spaces for basically no cost for years. They should either pay fair value or just deal with the parking problems and not complain about it.

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wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

apluj wisen up ..what color is the sky in your world..years ago we could park anywhere we wanted within the law..There is no fair value because you lollys came here..No reason why we have to pay 25 or 50 per yr for pkg..in the shore areas there is no problem..lotsof space there go south shims[quote comment=”200607″]Having a car is not illegal, but getting something for nothing is. The people of Hoboken have been getting parking spaces for basically no cost for years. They should either pay fair value or just deal with the parking problems and not complain about it.

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