Where else are cops supposed to park?

11/19/2010:

Where else should the park?

There are many parking bollards installed at various intersections throughout Hoboken (you know, the ones that took city halls over three years to listen to Hoboken411’s suggestions?)

Generally, these parking deterrents help visibility at inner corners of intersections. However, they are flexible, and have been run over before (like the Hertz on Demand Connect Cars).

Hoboken411 reader Josh was irritated by this Hoboken Police Car that did the same at the intersection of Newark and Bloomfield recently:

‘You’ve got to love our parking system in Hoboken. Not many things upset me more than taking my time to read the parking signs carefully, ensure my car is the proper distance away from the crosswalk, fire hydrant, meaningless loading zone, etc. only to be ticketed for my efforts. What upsets me more is to then walk past the courthouse on a daily basis and see such infractions as this.

I’m assuming the “law” for us normal civilians to park the proper distance away from crosswalks is to ensure the safety of our pedestrians as they cross the busy streets of Hoboken. Why is it then that at (arguably) the busiest and most dangerous intersection of Hoboken, cops are given free reign to put our lives in danger by giving us limited visibility toward oncoming traffic, and forcing us off of the crosswalk and out into traffic? Seems rather unsafe to me.

This was taken at the intersection of Newark and Bloomfield, facing Southwest. Cop car is facing West down Newark. Taken 11/10/2010 by Joshua O’Neill.”

Hoboken Cop was responding to a call

Hoboken411 looked into this – and found out there was a perfectly good reason for the car to be there:

On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 at 5:42pm, Radio Car #118 with Officers Armondo Caraballo and Libon Schelmety were dispatched to 111 Newark St. on a call of disorderly persons on the rooftop.

The officers arrived at the scene at 5:48pm. They were further updated that is was possibly kids running on the rooftop. The officers searched the rooftop and found that the rooftop and windows were not secured, but the rooftop dis-orderlies were no longer there.

The officers did a thorough search of the rooftop, adjacent rooftops, and upper stairwells and found no one. They secured the rooftop door and windows and got back into their radio car and went back onto patrol at 6:06pm.

You want them to block traffic totally?

Blocking the intersection or the middle of the street is dangerous on calls, because at times backup units, fire engines or ambulances may need to be requested. It also can cause a traffic tie up that is bothersome to residents. When there are no places to pull in radio cars for calls of service, at intersections that have these orange posts or stantions, at times the emergency responders (police cars, ambulances or fire engines) have to go over them.

I’d rather have the squad car parked here while they do their job – that completely tying up traffic. Plus – the fact that it’s a cop car will cause drivers in both directions to be a bit more cautious.

You have any better suggestions? Should cops park blocks away from potentially dangerous calls?

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14 Comments on "Where else are cops supposed to park?"

nacholibre
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nacholibre

While it is impossible to know the back story on every parked car in town, one can use a touch of common sense to weed out the more flagrant abuses. Since HPD patrol officers don’t have take home cruisers, if I was a betting man, when I saw a cruiser parked somewhere, it is a safe assumption they are (1) on a call or (2) engaged in some other routine business (i.e., better sit down for this one…a quick cup of coffee!).

Between recorded radio transmissions, geo-location of the units, reports that are never destroyed and having 24 inch reflective numbers all over their cars, I think the sensible 99% of police officers know they are under public scrutiny at all times so the secret spy photos won’t be much of a scoop.

If you want to stop malfeasance, spend a few minutes looking through municipal contracts, records, etc…like on The Wire, “follow the money” (not the cruiser).

Booyah!

2004infinitig35
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2004infinitig35

I’d venture a guess and say it’s impossible to know the back story to every picture a photographer takes at the time it is taken. In this case it’s great to know that the cops were responding to a call instead of at The Taco Truck or Luca Brasi’s. In order to perform the duties of their jobs effectively and efficiently, I think that cops should be allowed to park their cruisers wherever (within reason) they can when responding to a call.

However, the municpal workers park their personal vehicles, Jeep Liberties, and municipal vans all along that stretch of road on a daily basis, often times parking right up to the crosswalk (and sometimes overlapping). The poster is right about one thing…that stretch is one of the busiest intersections in Hoboken…not really sure the meter maid should be pakring his (or her) car there, then ticketing others for the same infraction.

animal_lover
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animal_lover
I admit I though this was a nit picking post at first until tonight… I called in a car that was parked at the corner sticking half way into the cross walk. I told the officer that this vehicle had a PBA shield in the back window. He told me it didn’t matter that he would send someone. A half hour later i walked by and the car was still blocking the walk. Noticing a cruiser I went over to them and they asked if I had called. When I said yes they said “are you have trouble getting across the street?’ I said no but more importantly that an emergency vehicle would not be able to make a turn. He remarked that he would be the judge of that. I said fine let me take a picture then. At that point the vehicle owner came and moved the car. I am sure they had given him a professional courtesy heads up- which I don’t see as a prolem but what is an issue is his trying to imply that it was OK to park this way and I was off base. As an aside I had previously called in a car that blocked the same intersection. This car had no PBA emblem and was immediately towed. [quote comment=”200198”]I’d venture a guess and say it’s impossible to know the back story to every picture a photographer takes at the time it is taken. In this case it’s great to know… Read more »
wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1
talking a emergency call..Not wacos with cameras that love to break ballies..Beest bet is that if you have a family emergency and every minute counts best the radio car should either find a meter pay the quarter of look for a pkg garage..How silly even the topic[quote comment=”200286″]I admit I though this was a nit picking post at first until tonight… I called in a car that was parked at the corner sticking half way into the cross walk. I told the officer that this vehicle had a PBA shield in the back window. He told me it didn’t matter that he would send someone. A half hour later i walked by and the car was still blocking the walk. Noticing a cruiser I went over to them and they asked if I had called. When I said yes they said “are you have trouble getting across the street?’ I said no but more importantly that an emergency vehicle would not be able to make a turn. He remarked that he would be the judge of that. I said fine let me take a picture then. At that point the vehicle owner came and moved the car. I am sure they had given him a professional courtesy heads up- which I don’t see as a prolem but what is an issue is his trying to imply that it was OK to park this way and I was off base. As an aside I had previously called in a car that… Read more »
homeworld
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Someone was parked in front of my driveway once making it very difficult to turn to get into my garage. The police wouldn’t ticket or tow the car, though, because it wasn’t blocking the entire driveway, half of it. With a lot of maneuvering I was able to get in with inches to spare. Another time a tractor trailer doubled parked me in at a parking space. I asked the driver if he could move because he was blocking me in, but he said no, it wasn’t his problem. So I called the police. After 20 minutes they didn’t come, so I had to hop the curb and drive down the sidewalk.[quote comment=”200286″]I admit I though this was a nit picking post at first until tonight… I called in a car that was parked at the corner sticking half way into the cross walk. I told the officer that this vehicle had a PBA shield in the back window. He told me it didn’t matter that he would send someone. A half hour later i walked by and the car was still blocking the walk. Noticing a cruiser I went over to them and they asked if I had called. When I said yes they said “are you have trouble getting across the street?’ I said no but more importantly that an emergency vehicle would not be able to make a turn. He remarked that he would be the judge of that. I said fine let me take a picture… Read more »
Reality-No BS
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Reality-No BS
Damn Nucci Thompson is AAAAAAnnnngry! The writer had great points and they are factually correct. The cop cars aren’t special see-through cars. It is a FACT that they do block your view of the intersection as both a driver and a pedestrian. How can someone say they’re disgruntled? If you live in this town you are blind, deaf, and dumb is you don’t realize that there are TOO MANY UNFIXED AND GREY AREAS of the law in relationship to parking issues. Secondly, rather than bash someone because they’re pointing out a truth that you just want to make excuses for, focus on the real issue. The governments of years back chose policies that brought more residences and vehicular traffic into town without properly accounting for adequate parking spaces. Don’t blame someone for pointing out a FACTUALLY VALID point. The poster likely understands police emergencies. I think they’re speaking to what needs to be done so that 2 things can happen……1) police (and fire) can respond to calls 2) without endangering, even the slightest bit, cars and pedestrians around that intersection The government NEEDS to address this issue, not us on this posting. It’s clearly a hazard for anything, be it cop car, delivery truck, personal car…anything….to block the lines of sight near intersections. I use my ridiculous button for poster #2 and #3. Thanks for the idea! Oh and ps since you probably live on this posting board I have no doubt you will respond. I however am signing off……possibly… Read more »
Antinucci
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Antinucci
If there is a parking problem, address it with the city officials. The poster, without knowledge as to why the cop car was there immediately proceeded to point out faults on police parking. Should the cop car have been a bit further back, sure, but what do we know about what was immediately going on with that call? I’m sure the last thing they were thinking was whether the car was properly parked or not, just out of traffics way. I doubt the poster highly understands police emergencies as you claim, otherwise they would have asked why it was parked that way rather then place blame and fault. I doubt very much the city would reserve parking spots for emergency vehicles only so that they could respond to calls and not worry about their parking. Instead they would prefer to use up to spots for corner cars, who cares about emergencies, show me the money they say. Maybe you haven’t noticed but parking is not the only issue in Hoboken. They respond to hundreds of calls per week, some parking related, assaults, fights, burglaries, etc. They can’t spend every single second of their shift issuing parking summonses, that’s what the parking utility is for. I use the “Stupid” button on pot number 4. Gotta go, I have a life to live, try it sometime.[quote comment=”200197″]Damn Nucci Thompson is AAAAAAnnnngry!The writer had great points and they are factually correct. The cop cars aren’t special see-through cars. It is a FACT that… Read more »
KenOn10
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KenOn10
Why is it that people with poorly reasoned ideas always say “it’s a fact”? “1) police (and fire) can respond to calls 2) without endangering, even the slightest bit, cars and pedestrians around that intersection ” Huh? Even the slightest bit? So, you’d have fire engines stopped at a red light because some putz might not hear the siren… and be endangered, very slightly! No the government does NOT need to address this issue because it is plain common sense. You need to accept the fact that you need to be careful around a police car on a call. Or an ambulance. Or a fire truck. [quote comment=”200197″]Damn Nucci Thompson is AAAAAAnnnngry!The writer had great points and they are factually correct. The cop cars aren’t special see-through cars. It is a FACT that they do block your view of the intersection as both a driver and a pedestrian.How can someone say they’re disgruntled? If you live in this town you are blind, deaf, and dumb is you don’t realize that there are TOO MANY UNFIXED AND GREY AREAS of the law in relationship to parking issues.Secondly, rather than bash someone because they’re pointing out a truth that you just want to make excuses for, focus on the real issue. The governments of years back chose policies that brought more residences and vehicular traffic into town without properly accounting for adequate parking spaces. Don’t blame someone for pointing out a FACTUALLY VALID point. The poster likely understands police emergencies. I think… Read more »
Antinucci
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Antinucci

BTW Perry, thanx for taking the time to find out the reason and explain. Then again it’s just another disgruntled civilian who got a ticket and wasn’t happy so they use the internet to bash again, so whats new?

animal_lover
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animal_lover

In this case a cop car is a completely different situation – they are in the line of duty, one can easily figure from the location that it was a call directly to the court house. In the other cases of the Parking Authority towing legally parked cars when the Parking Authority has failed to place signs in the required period that it outright FRAUD. In the case of yesterday’s post, the Parking Authority was notified that the signs had not been placed and still proceeded with towing even with protest of the person who purchased the signs.

I guess of you consider it wrong to bash the parking Authority for fraud then so be it. You have a different sense of justice than the majority.[quote comment=”200194″]BTW Perry, thanx for taking the time to find out the reason and explain. Then again it’s just another disgruntled civilian who got a ticket and wasn’t happy so they use the internet to bash again, so whats new?[/quote]

Antinucci
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Antinucci

Let’s see, spend 20 minutes trying to find a parking spot so as to not offend others or respond to the emergency call they were sent to? Hmmmmmmmmm.

Build a bridge and get over it already!!!!!!

Perry is there a ridiculous button you can add when people like this post ridiculous complaints like this one and then have others post ridiculous comments? Holy crap it just never ends.

Sam10
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Sam10
I don’t find this ridicuclous at all. I have noticed for a long time a Hoboken police cruiser parked illegally on the corner of 12th and Washington (without flashing lights). Whomever this police officer is, they cannot say they are responding to a call that often. A while back, Hoboken cracked down on people parking within 25 feet of the corner, I assume because it is unsafe for pedestrians to cross into trafffic around a car. So tell me why it is safe for a police cruiser to to park there for hours on a regular basis. I have always considered calling a complaint in but I do give police the benefit of the doubt. But one has to wonder, who is policing the police ? And while I am on the subject, how about police driving while talking on their cell phones, I have seen it several times and I find their argument that they need to be able to use their cell phones in case their radios fail, is weak at best. How about having them log the times they use their cell phones for official police business ? I can’t imagine this happens often. Police talking on cell phones while driving is at least as dangerous as civilians doing it. Yet another example highlighting the question of who is policing the police ? I respect the police officers and what they do for us, but I find it hypocritical when they don’t abide by our laws.[quote comment=”200193″]Let’s… Read more »
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