Block the box? Every day!

Fugheddaboutit! Cars Block the Box DAILY in Hoboken

We like going to Jersey City every now and then. Whether it’s for the cheap (all cash) gas station outside the Holland Tunnel, picking up some apartment essentials at Home Depot, or visiting the Hamilton Park area.

But almost every time we try to exit town from the south – the two intersections on Monroe Street between Observer and Newark are always in a state of “clusterfuck.”

They’ve tried “block the box” enforcement to no avail. And especially since they installed that traffic light at Jackson and Newark – the backlog up to Monroe is now the chief offender. Cars in the middle of the intersection, and the worst is cars making turns not allowed in their lane in order to sneak ahead of other cars who abide the directions on the signs.

See? The more “controls” they try to impose – the worse it becomes… So what do traffic engineers do other than propose pie-in-the-sky solutions that work only in absolute PERFECT conditions?

Block the box intersection headaches in Hoboken NJ

The box continues to be blocked

(say that three times fast…)

11/15/2010:

We all know traffic downtown is a nightmare – and the city likes following good leads from Hoboken411 (like the inner corner intersection bollards I’ve been talking about for years) – or plainly obvious ones like the “Do Not Block the Box” suggestion made last month.

The city recently followed suit again by implementing this so-called traffic measure – with non-existent success. By painting lines that are hardly visible – and no enforcement of the signs – cars are still clogging the intersection as if nothing was there at all.

4th Ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti said “The Mayor’s Don’t Block the Box initiative is a little less than what we expected on Monroe and Observer. For starters, the box is not sufficiently highlighted. The lines are too thin. But, more significantly, enforcement needs to be consistent and there must be a police presence, for the short term. New signage is just not enough. We watched a traffic jam form in just a few seconds yesterday, and it wasn’t even rush hour. Too many drivers will not get the message unless they see one of our cops at that intersection.”

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11 Comments on "Block the box? Every day!"

coolerking101
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coolerking101

Box was blocked at 8:10 am this morning by a car and a bus. Business as usual.

What’s really starting to bother me is that I keep seeing the motorcycle cops on Newark and Monroe just hanging out in front of the drive through beer and soda place chatting and doing nothing. Would it be asking too much for one of them to walk 50 yards south to the corner of Monroe and Observer?

elainetyger
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elainetyger

Everyone tries to cram into that left lane. If you try to make the left from Observer onto Monroe, you can’t do it because the whole intersection is blocked with eveyrone else getting into that left lane. Having the right and center lanes on Monroe both making the right turn onto Newark makes no sense at all, since not as many people go that way and, anyway, there is only one lane on Newark so they have to merge anyway. The center lane on Monroe should continue down to Grove Street on the dogleg left instead.

homeworld
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The people that try to make a right on red from the center lane always bother me when I’m in the right lane trying to also make a right on red. It’s a dangerous situation. [quote comment=”200178″]Everyone tries to cram into that left lane. If you try to make the left from Observer onto Monroe, you can’t do it because the whole intersection is blocked with eveyrone else getting into that left lane. Having the right and center lanes on Monroe both making the right turn onto Newark makes no sense at all, since not as many people go that way and, anyway, there is only one lane on Newark so they have to merge anyway. The center lane on Monroe should continue down to Grove Street on the dogleg left instead.[/quote]

Hawk3y3
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Hawk3y3

HPD had a Moto-Cop out there this morning and there was VERY little congestion, no honking and no playing ‘chicken’ in the left turn lane. Now if they can only do something about those (few) moronic crossing guards that think their job is to direct traffic reagardless of whether or not someone’s crossing the street my commute might be closer to stress free! No offense to the many others who give a friendly wave every morning 🙂

4th Ward Guardian
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4th Ward Guardian

Thanks to Councilman Tim Occhipinti for stepping up and actually doing something for the 4th ward. The appointed guy he replaced never bothered to even ask for the police to help. Lenz even said during the debate that it would be too expensive to have officers enforcing the law at this intersection! Good riddance! We finally have a councilman who represents US.[quote comment=”200079″]HPD had a Moto-Cop out there this morning and there was VERY little congestion, no honking and no playing ‘chicken’ in the left turn lane. Now if they can only do something about those (few) moronic crossing guards that think their job is to direct traffic reagardless of whether or not someone’s crossing the street my commute might be closer to stress free! No offense to the many others who give a friendly wave every morning [/quote]

egonce
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egonce

I’d like to see a “no honking” sign– then fine people $350 if they honk. Talk about revenue for the city– and a public service to the surrounding buildings.

Alpuj
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Proper Do Not Block The Box markings are to be solid cross-hatched and either 4″ or 6″ thick. I haven’t seen the striping put out there, but if it is 4″ or 6″ wide then it is properly done. Now whether it is enforced, thats the police’s responsiblity.

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