Recap: Fourth Ward Special Election

11/4/2010:

Latest Count: Occhipinti 1231; Lenz 825

In the end, it wasn’t even close. Challenger Tim Occhipinti defeated Michael Lenz on the voting machines at the polls by 50 votes, making the Vote-By-Mail tally moot.

In the end it wasn’t the VBM’s that put Occhipinti over the top. It was the nearly 400 votes for Occhipinti on the machines in Mayor Dawn Zimmer’s “stronghold” 4-2 and 4-1 districts. These voters walked through a green-shirted gauntlet to vote against the Mayor’s handpicked choice to represent them.

406 vote margin is impossible for Lenz to overcome

Lenz ran as Zimmer’s 5th vote. Occhipinti told voters he wants to put the 4th ward first.

That message resonated as Occhipinti racked up support in all 4 districts. The appointed incumbent’s marketing strategy was a weak attempt to transfer some goodwill from Dawn Zimmer onto Lenz. When campaign polling showed it wasn’t working (and Zimmer wasn’t as popular as they thought), Lenz went hard negative in a clear sign of desperation. Allegations of fraud, intimidation and corruption were handed out like Halloween candy. To date, none have been shown to have any basis in fact. Lenz was losing – and they knew it – so they threw the kitchen sink at their opponent.

A week before the election, Lenz made a strategic move to call the Vote-By-Mail ballots into question in the hope he would win the Election Day machine vote. This would give him a platform from which to scream “I wuz robbed!” and be branded a martyr. The voters of the 4th ward didn’t give him that opportunity. Occhipinti beat Lenz on the machines by a 50-vote margin, making the VBM’s moot.

After challenges on procedural issues, Lenz got 34 mail-in votes while Occhipinti got 390.

Sore losers at the City Council meeting last night

At first Lenz wouldn’t concede. He continued his campaign rhetoric even as Zimmer was admitting the matter was over, and she was moving on.

Lenz still hasn’t congratulated Occhipinti. That lack of class transferred to the council meeting last night. Lenz didn’t attend, but Occhipinti did. Since the election hasn’t been certified he couldn’t be sworn in, but it’s clear he’s the Councilman-Elect.

Mike Russo thanked Lenz for his service and congratulated Occhipinti on his win. Most people in the room applauded Occhipinti, but not the four remaining members of the former Zimmer Majority. They refused, and actually amped up the rhetoric of division throughout the meeting.

The campaign is over. Time to govern.

Instead of putting the campaign behind them and getting down to the business of government, Zimmer’s council members want to keep the election hype going until the next one comes along. They are the very definition of sore losers, each more astonished than the next that the voting public doesn’t see them as the “smartest, bestest people in the city.”

Zimmer, Dave Mello, Peter Cunningham and Carol Marsh made this a race about them, and they lost. Big. By over 400 votes – almost 200 of them on the machines in Zimmer and Mello’s home district alone.

The only votes left to count are a few provisional paper ballots and military votes. These will be dealt with tomorrow when the Hudson County Board of Elections is expected to certify the results, allowing Occhipinti to take his place on the council.

11/2/2010 Update:

Occhipinti Romps

Early reports suggest that Tim Occhipinti defeated Mike Lenz on the voting machines 841 to 791. Vote by Mail and Provisional votes not included in those numbers… More to come.

11/1/2010 Update:

The Final Countdown in the 4th Ward

The 4th ward campaign is down to its final hours as both sides prepare to get out their vote on Election Day. Here’s a rundown of the stories every 4th ward voter should read before entering the voting booth. Click on the hotlinks to see more.

Remember when unelected councilman Michael Lenz declared his team was “Not elected to cut taxes?”

After you watch the video above, check out the original Deconstructing Michael Lenz post outlining Lenz’s decades in Hudson County politics that was later expanded on by PolitickerNJ.

Additionally:

Lenz Hoboken benefits saves $4500 for himself

When he was appointed 4th ward councilman in 2009, Lenz opted out of the Health Insurance Plan at his full-time job and signed on to the City benefits plan. That put an additional $4500 into his pocket while costing city taxpayers $23,000. Lenz also arranged for political ally Tony Soares to receive Health Benefits and a $5000 stipend in a deal appointing him to the North Hudson Sewarage Authority board.

As councilman, Lenz has been a key player in botching the $25.5 million sale of the Municipal Garage, as well as handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars in contracts to politically connected law firms associated with his bosses.

By far the biggest hypocrisy of his short time on the council is the story Hoboken411 broke about how two developers returned a favor to Lenz after he supported a height variance on their property. Lenz met with the developer in a North Bergen diner, voted his way and collected $1000 in campaign contributions. Last Friday a Superior Court Judge rejected the Lenz campaign’s vote-by-mail suppression effort, which was seen as ironic considering the shenanigans Lenz was part of in the 2007 4th ward race.

Hoboken411 stories on Tim Occhipinti

Tim Occhipinti hasn’t been around Hoboken politics as long as Michael Lenz, but he’s made his mark over the past year. After an unsuccessful independent campaign for Council-at-Large in 2009, Occhipinti stayed involved as a founder of Hoboken Volunteers and board member of the Boys and Girls club.

During the early summer heatwave Occhipinti asked why the city didn’t plan to open the community swimming pool before late July. Occhipinti also called out City Hall for scheduling a Sunday night meeting to suppress public participation on a $16 million bond vote.

Occhipinti found himself directing traffic when a tractor-trailer took out the signal at the intersection of Paterson and Jackson, and led a community brainstorming session regarding the horrible traffic situation in Southwest Hoboken. Occhipinti also brought attention to the terrible conditions Hoboken’s youngest soccer players are facing and sounded the alarm about the lack of progress on a Southwest Park and redevelopment plan.

See the original Fourth Ward Special Election preview below. The polls open at 6am Tuesday morning and close at 8pm. Stay with Hoboken411 for continuing coverage!

9/27/2010 Update:

Occhipinti opens HQ, secures Ramos endorsement

4th ward council candidate Tim Occhipinti opened his new campaign headquarters this weekend on a high visibility corner at Monroe and Observer. Here’s a campaign-provided video of Occhipinti’s brief speech, where he describes the 4th ward as the Heart or Hoboken, celebrates it’s diversity and takes aim at his “opponents” in this race.

Occhipinti also secured the endorsement of Assemblyman and former 4th ward councilman Ruben Ramos, who was dressed in red for his beloved Rutgers Scarlet Knights.

Lenz plans to open HQ in a residential zone

While Occhipinti followed conventional Hoboken campaign wisdom (and the Zoning Code) by opening his HQ in a retail storefront, un-elected councilman Michael Lenz is operating the business of his campaign out of a residential apartment building. The Lenz HQ will be located at 60 Madison Street. It’s a convenient location for Mayor Dawn Zimmer, whose 3622 square foot, 3-bedroom Triplex is located right across the street at 59 Madison.

9/24/2010 Update:

Occhipinti opens Campaign HQ; Sanford drops out

The 4th Ward Special Election is still over a month out – but a quick Friday update for you…

The hardly-known candidate James Sanford backed out as fast as he entered (I guess the Lenz & Zimmer ties put the kibosh on that..) and main contender Tim Occhipinti announces the opening of his campaign headquarters “kick off” event tomorrow, Saturday, September 25th at 11am. Located at the old Hoboken Fish & Pets at the corner of Monroe & Observer.

“Please join us as we kick off our campaign for the 4th Ward City Council seat by opening our campaign headquarters this Saturday, September 25th at 11am. Meet our campaign team and your neighbors and friends who believe it’s time for an independent spirit in the 4th Ward.

I hope you can stop by and say hello, have a cup of coffee and munchkin and find out how you can join our effort. I appreciate all the support you have shown so far and look forward to seeing you this Saturday!

Sincerely,
Tim Occhipinti, 4th Ward Council Candidate

9/17/2010:

Occhipinti vs. Lenz (and some other guy)

The deadline to file petitions to run in the November Special Election has passed setting up a showdown between appointed 4th ward (appointed) councilman Michael Lenz and challenger Tim Occhipinti.

Lenz is a longtime Hoboken political player and Hudson County employee who holds a patronage job at the Meadowview government complex. Occhipinti is a relative newcomer who works as an Application Support Analyst for an asset management firm’s buy-side trading desk. The two major candidates each have a base to work from, but it’s anybody’s guess which campaign will have what it takes to attract and motivate the undecided voters necessary to win.

A first: No Traditional `Old Hoboken` candidate

Occhipinti’s limited personal base includes people he’s worked with as a board member of the Boys and Girls Club and Hoboken Volunteers, his friends and neighbors. The 4th ward is the most ethnically and economically diverse in the city. It includes the largest concentration of Hoboken Housing Authority residents, as well senior housing at 400 1st Street and 220 Adams. With no traditional “Old Hoboken” candidate emerging from the Hispanic and Italian communities, Occhipinti’s base has grown substantially. Potential candidates such as former Councilwomen-at-Large Terry LaBruno and Nellie Moyeno decided not to run this time.

Lenz needs Zimmer voters, but many upset with Soares vote

Lenz’s base is personified by a cadre of angry, single, middle-aged former advertising executives. They have time on their hands to bang their keyboards hard on sites that allow them to spread bile under multiple screen names. (The rule-breakers aren’t welcome here, but honest Lenz supporters who don’t violate Hoboken411 policies are welcome to post valid opinions on this race.) Mayor Zimmer appeared at Lenz’s campaign kickoff, held at the home of reigning Hoboken Back-Stabbing Champion Jake Stuiver, who also serves as Lenz’s Treasurer.

Expanding the base, Lenz vote for Soares looms large

Both Lenz and Occhipinti need to expand their base to attract the condo-dwelling young couples and families who changed the political face of the ward.

Some have moved out since Zimmer first ran in 2007 while others have become disillusioned with the Mayor. Many still remain loyal to Zimmer, but are far less enthusiastic about Lenz. His vote to give Tony Soares the North Hudson Sewerage Authority seat (with it’s $5000 salary and medical benefits) set off a firestorm of criticism among Zimmer’s hard-core supporters. Many say they won’t support Lenz in the way they backed Zimmer, which has forced Lenz to reach out to other wards to find people to work on his campaign. Occhipinti will also have a wealth of volunteers from outside the ward thanks in large part to the polarizing figure he’s running against. There are already hundreds of voters salivating at the opportunity to vote against Lenz, but that won’t be enough for Occhipinti to win. He will also need to earn support from people who don’t know Lenz from Adam.

So who is this third guy who filed petitions?

While Lenz and Occhipinti have spent several months preparing for this showdown, a third candidate managed to get enough signatures (about 100) to get his name on the ballot at the last minute.

James Jeremy Sanford is a member of the Hoboken Republican Committee with ties to GOP allies of Zimmer and Lenz. What little is known about him makes it clear he is in no way a serious contender for the seat. To the extent he would get any votes at all, Lenz’s supporters are counting on them coming out of the potential support pool for Occhipinti. Lenz himself is rumored to be making deals to campaign side-by-side with Hudson County Sheriff Juan Perez, who is running on the Republican line for re-election.

Lenz: Campaign strategy much like Zimmer

Watch for Lenz to “Stay Positive” in his official campaign materials, while operatives go extremely negative with “independent” attacks on Occhipinti online and in midnight fliers.

His allies will likely launch a viral campaign to make it appear as though Sanford has a base of support that should make him be taken seriously in order to divert undecided voter attention away from Occhipinti. They’re also counting on the traditional newspapers to be “fair” and offer equal space to all three candidates, again diluting the waters. From the beginning and to the end this is a race between Lenz and Occhipinti.

Hoboken411 will post basic campaign information from Sanford (should he provide it) but won’t pretend to consider him a viable candidate in this race.

The fourth ward should buckle up for yet another bumpy ride!

129 Responses

  1. upyurs says:

    CONGRATS TO TIM 1 DOWN 5 TO GO NOW WE NEED MICHAEL CRICCO BACK IN THE 5TH WARD I HEAR HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING AGAIN

    • zimmshamm says:

      I heard that too. I think 5th ward residents miss that street-level persona that Cricco had. He got things done at City Hall quickly. He listened to residents and was a much more open person that angry Cunningham and his constantly PMSing wife. Peter looks like he’s one stones throw away from a red-faced outburst pretty much 24/7.[quote comment=”199447″]CONGRATS TO TIM 1 DOWN 5 TO GO NOW WE NEED MICHAEL CRICCO BACK IN THE 5TH WARD I HEAR HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING AGAIN[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        zimmshamm..Get this …Right after the results last night..on that other hoboken forum
        all the big mouths and party mouths paid bloggers disapeared in the blink of an eye..
        to add icing to the cake one has to notice at least 40 deleations since 8.30 pm 11.2,2010
        The timmy people were not allowed to gloat and cheer after all the nasty things certain paid bloggers posted as well as graffics with their own sites..This is a clear indication of what the other team is about…Anyone check and count the deleations..At least on this site respectfull opinions will not be deleated..Yeah as someone said next is to convince
        Cricco to warm up in the bull pen..in the 5th ward.. 😀 [quote comment=”199449″]I heard that too. I think 5th ward residents miss that street-level persona that Cricco had. He got things done at City Hall quickly. He listened to residents and was a much more open person that angry Cunningham and his constantly PMSing wife. Peter looks like he’s one stones throw away from a red-faced outburst pretty much 24/7.

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  2. truth1 says:

    Congrats Tim and thanks to Mike for his service. The beat goes on for May 2011. 😛

  3. prop19 says:

    Projectpinti wins!!!! People have finally realized that the well informed, forward thinking people of the housing projects should steer the course for Hoboken. What a victory for mankind.

    • animal_lover says:

      Prop19, and and the forward thinking people of Cali also voted you down 😈 [quote comment=”199457″]Projectpinti wins!!!! People have finally realized that the well informed, forward thinking people of the housing projects should steer the course for Hoboken. What a victory for mankind.[/quote]

  4. whineanddineinhob says:

    Really had to laugh this morning when I read Zimmers comment regarding the election. Tim stated he looks forward to working with the mayor to which she replied “if he stands by his word, I really look forward to working with him”. LMAO—If he keeps HIS word !!!! What balls, from an idiot who hasn’t kept HER word on ANY of her promises.

    • getz76 says:

      Same reaction. She’s not going to last her term.[quote comment=”199451″]Really had to laugh this morning when I read Zimmers comment regarding the election. Tim stated he looks forward to working with the mayor to which she replied “if he stands by his word, I really look forward to working with him”. LMAO—If he keeps HIS word !!!! What balls, from an idiot who hasn’t kept HER word on ANY of her promises.[/quote]

      • hobores says:

        and did you read, and i paraphrase ‘I have not been listening to my consitutents…”

        no shit, Dawn![quote comment=”199466″]Same reaction. She’s not going to last her term.

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    • animal_lover says:

      Always intersting to reread the fliers and editorials after an election. If it wasn’t immediately obvious how twisted and manipulative they were on first read it becomes more striking when following the latter behaviors. Remeber the sh– eating grins on Zimmer/Lenz faces in thecomparison between the sides. Who’s frowning now? Really what kind of people go this far? [quote comment=”199451″]Really had to laugh this morning when I read Zimmers comment regarding the election. Tim stated he looks forward to working with the mayor to which she replied “if he stands by his word, I really look forward to working with him”. LMAO—If he keeps HIS word !!!! What balls, from an idiot who hasn’t kept HER word on ANY of her promises.[/quote]

  5. IHeartHoboken says:

    Uh, who was the mathematician responsible for the vote totals on the white board? A Lens supporter perhaps? I get 781, not 791 when I add up the votes for Lens. Ten votes can make a big difference in Hoboken.

  6. whineanddineinhob says:

    It was disgusting just to watch the remaining bobbleheads at this latest meeting. I don’t think it’s really entered their feeble minds that the house of cards is falling and the next June election will see more go the way of lenz. Only remaining chance of reelection will be to distance themselves quickly from this fool of a mayor. But judging from their arrogance last night, I don’t think even that will help. I would say their political careers are over.

    • prop19 says:

      Yeah!!, What he said!! If anyone believes that the rest of the remaining wards won’t follow the lead of the 4-4, they’re nuts. The projects have set the course, get on the bus!![quote comment=”199520″]It was disgusting just to watch the remaining bobbleheads at this latest meeting. I don’t think it’s really entered their feeble minds that the house of cards is falling and the next June election will see more go the way of lenz. Only remaining chance of reelection will be to distance themselves quickly from this fool of a mayor. But judging from their arrogance last night, I don’t think even that will help. I would say their political careers are over.[/quote]

      • Rise From The Ashes says:

        Perfect point – let the ward with the projects and flooding be the leader of the City.[quote comment=”199522″]Yeah!!, What he said!! If anyone believes that the rest of the remaining wards won’t follow the lead of the 4-4, they’re nuts. The projects have set the course, get on the bus!!

        [/quote]

      • prop19 says:

        I had to go back to your earlier posts just to make sure you got my sarcasm. The beauty of it all is that this loss for Lenz will only strengthen the grassroots movement of those that are happy with the direction the city is going. Russo, Castellano,, Mason and Projectpinti will all be gone in 2011.[quote comment=”199534″]Perfect point – let the ward with the projects and flooding be the leader of the City.

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      • wiskeytango1 says:

        prop question do you wax your surfboard ?? its gonna rain rain as long as you dont live in the western part of town..wait the rains didnt come yet wanna sell your shoebox?[quote comment=”199542″]I had to go back to your earlier posts just to make sure you got my sarcasm. The beauty of it all is that this loss for Lenz will only strengthen the grassroots movement of those that are happy with the direction the city is going. Russo, Castellano,, Mason and Projectpinti will all be gone in 2011.

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      • prop19 says:

        Dear WHISKEYBOZO, please read the instructions more closely on the perscription bottle (yes, you can have your mom do it for you)….. I’m pretty sure you think it says take one pilll every four hours, but if someone who can read, reads it to you, you will soon learn that it says take FOUR pills EVERY hour. What do surfboards and shoeboxes have to do with intellectual discourse? [quote comment=”199627″]prop question do you wax your surfboard ?? its gonna rain rain as long as you dont live in the western part of town..wait the rains didnt come yet wanna sell your shoebox?[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        prop lips..Your boy lost ..surf board indicates you can surf in the high tide floods if your area is shoe box lane..Dawn could not take her ward three times. How is your mom doing
        still in the mattress business and your another tough guy with your own cemetery in your small back yard…as for pills kid better that then a few tokes or the bong your use to.. :roll: [quote comment=”199646″]Dear WHISKEYBOZO, please read the instructions more closely on the perscription bottle (yes, you can have your mom do it for you)….. I’m pretty sure you think it says take one pilll every four hours, but if someone who can read, reads it to you, you will soon learn that it says take FOUR pills EVERY hour. What do surfboards and shoeboxes have to do with intellectual discourse?

        [/quote]

      • prop19 says:

        Well sed (see, I can spell like you too). When shortening “you are”, it’s pointed out by many third graders, that you put an apostrophe (sorry for the four syllable word- don’t hurt yourself) in between the u and the r. Here’s an example, YOU’RE. There’s actuall two eaxamples in that sentence and even one in this sentece, see if you can find them. In the spirit of asking questions, I have one for you.
        Q. What is the opposite of above me? Yes, you can phone a friend for help!!

        [quote comment=”199647″]prop lips..Your boy lost ..surf board indicates you can surf in the high tide floods if your area is shoe box lane..Dawn could not take her ward three times. How is your mom doingstill in the mattress business and your another tough guy with your own cemetery in your small back yard…as for pills kid better that then a few tokes or the bong your use to.. [/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        prop pants..where do you get your parsley tea from.the 4th ward west side? carefull 😀 [quote comment=”199650″]Well sed (see, I can spell like you too). When shortening “you are”, it’s pointed out by many third graders, that you put an apostrophe (sorry for the four syllable word- don’t hurt yourself) in between the u and the r. Here’s an example, YOU’RE. There’s actuall two eaxamples in that sentence and even one in this sentece, see if you can find them. In the spirit of asking questions, I have one for you.
        Q. What is the opposite of above me? Yes, you can phone a friend for help!!

        [/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        prop pants,,pray for pelosi and prop 19 so you can be just like mom and dad in the 60s
        btw shorthand —net acronyms..even my sons all masters degree disbute it..sorry its in the hand book of net language..btw have to run not have to slap a yuppie in the 4th
        you be carefull when you buy your parsley..any time you want to give me a lesson in grammer..meet me for coffee at the turning point ..come alone kid..[quote comment=”199655″]prop pants..where do you get your parsley tea from.the 4th ward west side? carefull

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      • prop19 says:

        OK, I have to go as well. I would like to conclude by saying that it was always fun drinking with you at Kelly’s. I see I’ve gotten you pretty wound up and I would feel horrible if four people would have to be inconvenienced by attending your funeral at Failla’s because you had a heart attack trying to post to a blog. I too am born and raised in this town, and your reputation far exceeds you. Never forget the orchard lounge! xoxoxo[quote comment=”199656″]prop pants,,pray for pelosi and prop 19 so you can be just like mom and dad in the 60sbtw shorthand —net acronyms..even my sons all masters degree disbute it..sorry its in the hand book of net language..btw have to run not have to slap a yuppie in the 4thyou be carefull when you buy your parsley..any time you want to give me a lesson in grammer..meet me for coffee at the turning point ..come alone kid..[/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        wise ass only a moron grad from columbia would never remember the orchard lounge then as far as kellys goes.speaks volumes for a columbia grad..not my area 4th ward most of my life..tough guy u wanna dance credit cards at 20 paces or you can indulge a couple of my sons if you like to dance…your call tough guy.! you have no where to go except surf the net..cry over t rex..I have socks older than you..tough guy coffee at the turning point watch u dont fall into dawns sink hole. bottom line chubby lost and you would not remember the orchard lounge. the key is i don’t want to see you get a heart attack kid[quote comment=”199657″]OK, I have to go as well. I would like to conclude by saying that it was always fun drinking with you at Kelly’s. I see I’ve gotten you pretty wound up and I would feel horrible if four people would have to be inconvenienced by attending your funeral at Failla’s because you had a heart attack trying to post to a blog. I too am born and raised in this town, and your reputation far exceeds you. Never forget the orchard lounge! xoxoxo

        [/quote]

      • wiskeytango1 says:

        in closing ..tough guy..don’t put yourself in a situation your can’t get out of..people in their 50s get heart attacks..you are another don vito with your private cemetery in your shoe box back yard..don’t be a keyboard tough guy..im not in the least. You have the rasins meet me for coffee at the turning point..lay off the toke kid. if not your persona non gratta.. your call..one never knows do one? btw coffee and bandaids on me. 😮 [quote comment=”199658″]wise ass only a moron grad from columbia would never remember the orchard lounge then as far as kellys goes.speaks volumes for a columbia grad..not my area 4th ward most of my life..tough guy u wanna dance credit cards at 20 paces or you can indulge a couple of my sons if you like to dance…your call tough guy.! you have no where to go except surf the net..cry over t rex..I have socks older than you..tough guy coffee at the turning point watch u dont fall into dawns sink hole. bottom line chubby lost and you would not remember the orchard lounge. the key is i don’t want to see you get a heart attack kid

        [/quote]

      • prop19 says:

        If anyone has the opprtunity, and would love a good, enlightening laugh, please go to wikipedia and look up whiskey tango. If you’re illiterate, and spell whiskey without the “h”, they will direct you to the proper site. This says it all….[quote comment=”199659″]in closing ..tough guy..don’t put yourself in a situation your can’t get out of..people in their 50s get heart attacks..you are another don vito with your private cemetery in your shoe box back yard..don’t be a keyboard tough guy..im not in the least. You have the rasins meet me for coffee at the turning point..lay off the toke kid. if not your persona non gratta.. your call..one never knows do one? btw coffee and bandaids on me. [/quote]

    • gazzosdriver says:

      Ok. I’ll bite. What do you mean by house of cards? I am interested in getting inside the mind of a person who lives in the projects to find out why they are so repulsed by Mayor Zimmer. From my seat, I see a real budget, the hope of tax decreases and a reval, and the right-sizing of our government and public safety. You cannot hate her b/c she took away a few parking spots for the Corner Cars program. So what is it? Please give me something legit. I am not interested in name-calling. Thanks.[quote comment=”199520″]It was disgusting just to watch the remaining bobbleheads at this latest meeting. I don’t think it’s really entered their feeble minds that the house of cards is falling and the next June election will see more go the way of lenz. Only remaining chance of reelection will be to distance themselves quickly from this fool of a mayor. But judging from their arrogance last night, I don’t think even that will help. I would say their political careers are over.[/quote]

      • whineanddineinhob says:

        By house of cards I mean the mayor and her rubber stamping bobblehead council members. If you’re interested in getting in someones mind from the project, I suggest you mingle with people from the projects and the 4th ward in general and understand THEIR disgust with broken promises and lack of interest. This went on with zimmer as 4th ward rep and lenz who followed. I am not in that ward. If you cannot see her arrogance in running this city, her confusion with the garage issues, her threat of taking public property to achieve her goals, the cost of attorneys and law suits that are in progress due to stupdity then you’re blind. This isn’t name calling, it’s a fact. If all you can see is someone disagreeing with this admin because of corner cars program I can’t help you. All I can say is if you voted for reform and your choice is now in office, then you got what you wanted. Just don’t expect me to be happy for you, because I might vomit.[quote comment=”199526″]Ok. I’ll bite. What do you mean by house of cards? I am interested in getting inside the mind of a person who lives in the projects to find out why they are so repulsed by Mayor Zimmer. From my seat, I see a real budget, the hope of tax decreases and a reval, and the right-sizing of our government and public safety. You cannot hate her b/c she took away a few parking spots for the Corner Cars program. So what is it? Please give me something legit. I am not interested in name-calling. Thanks.

        [/quote]

  7. 4th Ward Guardian says:

    CONGRATULATIONS to Councilman Tim Occhipinti for his hard fought victory! Finally we’ll have an ELECTED representative of OUR choice on the City Council! The 4th ward spoke loud and clear. No do-overs this time. One and done!

    60% voted for Occhipinti and 40% for Lenz. That’s a blowout, but I’m surprised it was even that close. The bloom is off the Zimmer rose. People see how little she’s getting done, and how much she’s screwed up. It’s a huge defeat for the Mayor.

    Never forget she only got 40% of the vote in a winner-take-all election. The other 60% are tired of being called corrupt and stupid by the Zimmer mob, and they showed it at the polls!

  8. Rise From The Ashes says:

    Congratulations to you for backing the winner in this election…hopefully you will fairly go after Mason and the other clowns on the Council now that your candidate won. Your voice was heard on this site, now right the ship and attack them all equally…

    • whineanddineinhob says:

      Nope. We need to sink the existing ship with the removal of Marsh, Cunningham, Bahlla and Mello.[quote comment=”199532″]Congratulations to you for backing the winner in this election…hopefully you will fairly go after Mason and the other clowns on the Council now that your candidate won. Your voice was heard on this site, now right the ship and attack them all equally…[/quote]

      • gazzosdriver says:

        I am spinning from your posts. Not sure where to start. The most daunting issue facing the city, as I see it, is the budget. I have a few questions for you. Financially, are we in a better position today than we were one year ago? Do you think Peter Cammarano would have been as effective in right-sizing the police department, slashing unnecessary city jobs and overall cutting waste? Would you be happier had none of those things occured? I believe you would be. In that event, we have nothing to talk about. I want smaller municipal government and a balanced budget. You want jobs for your friends. [quote comment=”199535″]Nope. We need to sink the existing ship with the removal of Marsh, Cunningham, Bahlla and Mello.[/quote]

      • whineanddineinhob says:

        You’re talking out your A$$. I could care less who works for the City. The budget would have been reduced REGARDLESS of WHO became mayor. No, I don’t thing CAmmarano would have reduced the police department, and I DON’T think that EVERYONE agreed that this was effective in cost saving, especially when this mayor continued to hire elsewhere. It’s YOU that has ME spinning, and you’re right– we have nothing to talk about.[quote comment=”199539″]I am spinning from your posts. Not sure where to start. The most daunting issue facing the city, as I see it, is the budget. I have a few questions for you. Financially, are we in a better position today than we were one year ago? Do you think Peter Cammarano would have been as effective in right-sizing the police department, slashing unnecessary city jobs and overall cutting waste? Would you be happier had none of those things occured? I believe you would be. In that event, we have nothing to talk about. I want smaller municipal government and a balanced budget. You want jobs for your friends.

        [/quote]

      • 4th Ward Guardian says:

        I’ll bite. Financially we’re in a better position that we were one year ago because Judy Tripodi overtaxed us for two years running. She didn’t just make up for Roberts’ errors. She created a $20 million surplus. This would have been true even if Frank Raia had been elected Mayor.

        Most of the police department cuts come from planned retirements. The senior officers are leaving before they get their pensions cut. If they wait too long they’ll get less money. They were leaving anyway and only pulled their papers when Zimmer started acting in bad faith. So, yeah the attrition would have happened even if Patricia Waiters had been elected Mayor.

        You want smaller municipal government but you obviously aren’t paying attention. Your Mayor Dawn Zimmer has made 25 new full-time hires, over 10 part-time hires, and is advertising for more crossing guards. Instead of buying every bit of BS Zimmer puts in Lenz’s campaign fliers you should do your own due diligence and see what so many of us are seeing.[quote comment=”199539″]I am spinning from your posts. Not sure where to start. The most daunting issue facing the city, as I see it, is the budget. I have a few questions for you. Financially, are we in a better position today than we were one year ago? Do you think Peter Cammarano would have been as effective in right-sizing the police department, slashing unnecessary city jobs and overall cutting waste? Would you be happier had none of those things occured? I believe you would be. In that event, we have nothing to talk about. I want smaller municipal government and a balanced budget. You want jobs for your friends.

        [/quote]

  9. j.mayr says:

    When Zimmer picked Lenz for 4th. Ward Councilman I knew this was her downfall. Lenz is the kiss of death. Anyone who knows him knows he brings down the house in the worst way…..Goodbye Lenz …To the Zimmer council members – what a bunch of cowards – don’t even have the respect to congratulate the winner!!!! You are a bunch of losers and even your loyal supporters are realizing it…..2011 will bring a change so don’t get to comfortable….Congratulations to the winner – COUNCILMEN TIM OCCHIPINTI –

  10. getz76 says:

    Zimmer grassroots movement? Look at the results again. Do you think the people who voted for Zimmer are happy with her and her crew?

    You could have a bag of hair run against Zimmer right now and the bag of hair would win.

  11. kooky kat says:

    Why are some people so in love with this Lenz guy….he has been milking the system for how many years now? He took 180K from their precious city for what, because he got fired?? How much money has the city of Hoboken – or Hudson County given this fat piece of sh*t over the last 20 years? Seriously!!

    I also love that it’s always the most vulnerable that are being prayed upon from both sides, the folks that live in the projects. I don’t think they are going to look too kindly upon the Lenz people trying to nullify their votes because they didn’t get their way.
    I just wish they would get someone in there to represent them that honestly cares someone who doesn’t have ulterior motives. Dawn Zimmer certainly wasn’t it, I don’t think Mike Lenz is either!

    • wiskeytango1 says:

      remember kat people dont forget..t rex coulld care less about the minorities blk latino white..he would not even go in the hallswithout the swat team..those 245 or so votes came from the cardboard condo owners who are waiting for moses to part the seas..its gonna rain a lot this year..now its up to timmy for zelda and t rex did not care ..this dosent hurt the bnr project people but the jerks that invested 500k in shoebox condos
      im loving it…row row row your boat gentely down the stream..where is donna chubby and the coast guard captn..this is what these newbees depended on.. lord help us 😳 [quote comment=”199591″]Why are some people so in love with this Lenz guy….he has been milking the system for how many years now? He took 180K from their precious city for what, because he got fired?? How much money has the city of Hoboken – or Hudson County given this fat piece of sh*t over the last 20 years? Seriously!!I also love that it’s always the most vulnerable that are being prayed upon from both sides, the folks that live in the projects. I don’t think they are going to look too kindly upon the Lenz people trying to nullify their votes because they didn’t get their way.
      I just wish they would get someone in there to represent them that honestly cares someone who doesn’t have ulterior motives. Dawn Zimmer certainly wasn’t it, I don’t think Mike Lenz is either![/quote]

  12. hoboken411 says:

    4th Ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti expected to be sworn in around 6:30pm tonight at City Hall.

    • 4th Ward Guardian says:

      A breath of fresh air is finally blowing through the 4th ward. Today we’re finally being represented by someone we elected to do the job. OUR choice, not the Mayor’s rubber stamp. Councilman Occhipinti has a lot of work to do in a short time before the next election. Those who love Hoboken will support him. Others blinded by politics will try to tear him down, but the’ll fail just as they did in the election.

      All the votes have been counted (a 1240 to 834 blowout), the election was certified and pundits like the JJ’s Political Insider have weighed in:

      “The victory by Tim Occhipinti for Hoboken’s 4th Ward City Council seat was a boost for Assemblyman Ruben Ramos, who was quite open about his opposition to incumbent Councilman Michael Lenz. It was also a slap at Mayor Dawn Zimmer, who would love to replace Ramos in Trenton. After the election, Ramos and Zimmer were still tweeting “attacks” against each other.

      Zimmer concentrated heavily in Hoboken’s 4-2 on behalf of Lenz. On the machine, Lenz received 445 votes, Occhipinti 184, more than most expected… The animosity continues with the mail-in investigation that will probably fall flat, as have past absentee probes. Zimmer/Lenz backers are saying this taints Occhipinti, and the councilman-elect’s “people” argue that is the administration’s intent, adding derisively that “the big guy in Trenton may want to help his own Sarah Palin.” — Agustin Torres

      Dawn Zimmer, I voted for you in 2007. You let us all down. Don’t compound your errors. End the political witch hunt, sit down with Councilman Occhipinti and finally get something done for the 4th ward!

      [quote comment=”199693″]4th Ward Councilman Tim Occhipinti expected to be sworn in around 6:30pm tonight at City Hall.[/quote]

  13. wiskeytango1 says:

    prop advise given to me by 411 is well taken ..why don’t you do the same..instead of rehashing nonsense?

  14. Owen_A_Jase says:

    Useless…polarizing…arrogant…enough is enough.

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